Clinton's Popularity Up in (NY) State, Even Among Republicans

[Freddie Stubbs]

By RAYMOND HERNANDEZ

Published: February 22, 2005


Remember Hillary Rodham Clinton and the conventional wisdom about how polarizing a figure she is? Well, think again.

Recent polls have shown that Mrs. Clinton, the junior senator from New York, may have turned a corner politically, sharply reducing the number of voters in the state who harbor negative views of her.

Pollsters say the change is remarkable for a woman who has long been shadowed by a seemingly implacable group of voters - commonly referred to as Hillary haters - who dislike her, no matter what she does, and who pose a potential obstacle to any presidential ambitions she may harbor.

A measure of how far Senator Clinton has come was on display Sunday when Senator John McCain, Republican from Arizona, said on "Meet the Press" that he thought Mrs. Clinton, a Democrat, would make a good president, although he said that he would support his party's nominee. She returned the compliment, saying when asked by the program's host, Tim Russert, that Senator McCain would be a good president.

more: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/22/nyregion/22hillary.html?pagewanted=all

[bettyellen]

1. because the rethugs are desperate for her to run in 08?

they have to be kidding.....

[Mizmoon]

2. Go Hillary!

I remember when they said you couldn't win in NY.
Prove them wrong again, baby! :yourock:

[Earth_First]

3. 2008, 2008, 2008...

I'm more concerned with 2006 right now...

[corbett]

4. As Well You Should Be

Let's make sure that Hill's Bill passes and takes effect for the mid-term election!

http://www.friendsofhillary.com/CountEveryVote

[lojasmo]

5. Hmm...perhaps her recent softening on abortion and...

faith based inniatives is drawing republicans....y'think?

[lowreed]

6. I'm in NY and will not vote for her again!

She has been nothing but a dissapointment since she was elected.

[Mizmoon]

11. Why do you say that?

what did you expect that you didn't get?

[lancdem]

15. A lot of people didn't here like her Iraq vote

I think she's being rewarded for her hard work, which is why her ratings are so high.

[Mizmoon]

20. As I mentioned to the other poster

perhaps you prefered D'Amato? :eyes:

Jesus isn't going to rise up and run anytime soon. We're left to pick amoungst the humans, all of whom are imperfect.

[lowreed]

30. She turned out to be much too far right for me .

D'Amato in not the only other choice.

[oasis]

14. Well, there goes Hillary's mandate.

:evilgrin:

[doodadem]

7. Don't fall for this BS people!

I like Hillary, always have. But the Repugs are saying nice things about her because they hope like hell she is the nominee in '08. Because they KNOW there is no way in the world red America will go for her, and we are right back where we started. If you notice, the only people that persist in bringing her up as a prez candidate every chance they get, is MSM and Repugs. They have an agenda. If she were to run, you know it wouldn't just be her personal failings on trial--it would also be Bill Clinton and Lewinsky, and Whitewater, etc. all over again.

[lancdem]

9. I'm not sure I want her to run in '08

but I wonder if the Repukes' emphasis on all that old baggage will backfire. I think she would have a shot at winning states such as Ohio, Iowa, Minnesota, New Mexico, Florida and West Virginia that didn't go for Kerry, plus win the blue states.

[ronnykmarshall]

19. I don't think she will run in '08.

I do believe she will be re-elected in 2006. I love Hillary and would love to see her become president, but I think the attacks on her will keep her out of the 2008 race.

[lancdem]

16. The Repuke leaders in NY still talk like they can beat her in '06

LOL

[GCP]

21. How right you are

The local radio wing-nut regularly goes on an anti-Hillary rant. There's no way in hell she could win a presidential race.

[prodigal_green]

29. I'm not so sure about that

Remember, Northeastern Republicans tend to be secular, not rapture right and there is a LOT of concern amongst Repukes here that their party is being taken over by loony-toons. If solidifying the Repuke control of the federal government means giving the rapture ready more power to inflict their privacy-violating, theocratic laws on them, they will prefer the Democrat.

Honestly, I'm not all that surprised. No more surprised than NYCers electing Republicans for mayor for the past decade.

[shadowknows69]

8. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I'm still not over the fact that my State decided that there was nobody FROM this state qualified to be a Senator. If it comes down to Hilary and Condi in 2008 I'm telling you she's going to lose because it will be photo finish close and they'll still manage to steal enough votes to turn it their way. We can do better. We need to boot the whole ne regime out and find someone truly visionary whose vision will enage the entire country and not split them in this neverending adversarial dance that we play in our government. We need someone who is going to go into november leading 30 points in the polls and not 5. There can be no question of a mandate next time (if we make it that far)and our country needs radically evolved direction or we won't exist for the 2012 election and we'll probably drag the world down with us.

[Mizmoon]

10. Perhaps you can ge D'Amato out of retirement

would that make you happy?

[lancdem]

13. LOL

[lancdem]

12. Charlie Rangel asked Hillary to run

because he didn't think any in-state Dem could be Giuliani. Remember, Spitzer didn't have the profile he has now.

[shadowknows69]

17. profile freaking shmofile

what happened to us supporting and electing the best person for the job. The most honest human being. The most intelligent candidate. I want my leaders held to a higher standard. Bring back Damato? resurrect Will Rogers for me.

[PeaceProgProsp]

18. Who can argue that this woman hasn't done everything exactly right.

Even CA is watching the Democrats grip slip. Not in NY. Thank you HRC.

[primavera]

22. Well, let's see, she's adopted repuke positions on...

...abortion, fusion of church and state, and racist immigration policies, sure, what is there for a Republican not to like? Hillary's evidently been taking lessons from Zell Miller.

[GoSolar]

23. Yep.

That's what I was thinking.

I don't want her to be the nominee in '08.

[Freddie Stubbs]

24. She is pro-choice

Is that now the Republican Party's position? :shrug:

[primavera]

28. Only in a Vichy Dem sort of way

Kissing up to the Christian Defense Coalition and making remarks about how much she respects those who believe abortion should be outlawed certainly doesn't sound like the kind of advocate I would want in my corner if I were on trial for my life. And Roe v. Wade is fighting for its life, make no mistake, and half-hearted, lukewarm, kinda sorta yes, kinda sorta no, well, you might have a point sorts of commitments to its preservation do not count as zealous advocacy in my book.

What centrists always fail to appreciate is that repukes have gotten us where we are today through modest, incremental steps, opposition to which can be criticized as militant and uncompromising, yet the cumulative effect of which added up over years constitutes a huge infringement upon basic rights and liberties. Each time such a compromise is adopted, it re-establishes a new starting point, just a few inches farther to the right than where it started. That becomes the new norm, and next year, the process repeats itself, and will continue to do so until the right-wing achieves its goals. Pro-life people are not interested in compromise, their policy is, always has been, and always will be, one of zero tolerance. If you try to meet them halfway, they will simply take what you've given and then demand more, because nothing less than a total ban on abortion will ever satisfy them. From their point of view, even one abortion is too many. Every concession you make therefore leaves their resolve undiminished, their boldness encouraged, their position strengthened, and your own position weakened. I tell you in earnest, your willingness to moderate your priorities is going to compromise us right out of every right we ever enjoyed in this country, one right after another until it's too late to offer any effective defense. If it isn't already...

[jswordy]

25. Oops - dupe. DELETED. Hit it twice by mistake.

[jswordy]

26. She has done a lot to cozy up to Republicans in the past...

2-3 months, even to the extent of bucking her own party, so a rise in her GOP popularity is no surprise to me. Her prez campaign philosophy seems to be to move to the right enough to smudge up the line. I have even heard her speak a couple of times of "finding common ground" on reproductive rights. Day or so ago, she was on stage with a phalanx of "who's who in the Republican party" types.

She won't get my vote.

:shrug:

[shantipriya]

27. Hilary for President!

The country is NOT ready for a woman in the White House and certainly not a Democrat.
There are too many dumb people in the country who thought Kerry was a NE elite. These dumb people want somebody they can have a beer with,not somebody intelligent who can have a coherent conversation and who knows his/her stuff.
So regardless of Hilary's abilities and strenths,she has no chance.AND therfore the Democrats should not make a mistake of nominating her.