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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:02 AM
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Republicans Allege 1,108 Felons Voted Illegally in Disputed Wash. Governor
Republicans Allege 1,108 Felons Voted Illegally in Disputed Wash. Governor's Election


By Rebecca Cook Associated Press Writer
Published: Feb 23, 2005



OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) - Republicans dissatisfied with the balloting that installed Democrat Gov. Christine Gregoire alleged Tuesday that 1,108 felons voted illegally in the 2004 election.
Dino Rossi, the failed GOP candidate, is challenging Gregoire's election in court on the grounds that illegal votes and election workers' errors irrevocably tainted the results. He's pushing for a new election.

Gregoire won the election by just 129 votes, after a hand recount of 2.9 million ballots. Rossi had won the first two counts.

Democrats say Gregoire is the legitimate governor, and say Republicans don't have enough evidence to warrant nullifying the election.

Republicans have spent the past couple of months searching for felons who voted despite not having their voting rights restored. Rossi spokeswoman Mary Lane announced the 1,108 number on Tuesday. Lane said 884 of those were found in Democrat-leaning King County.

more:

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBJU3Q4J5E.html
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:06 AM
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1. And all 1108 voted for Gregoire....
Because Democrats love felons.....

This is completely useless at this point, other than an attempt to smear Gregoire's good name. In any case, the GOP has to demonstrate that something like 2/3 of the questionable voters voted for Gregoire for Rossi to win by ONE VOTE.

It's a complete waste of time.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:08 AM
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2. They really need to let this go
The election was almost 4 months ago. Gregoire is the governor, and she will serve until January of 2009.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:17 AM
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12. What, do you think these assholes are Democrats?
Al Gore and John Kerry may have given up early, but these guys will fight for a recall full time until the next election, even if it's four years from now. Watch what they do. It will be educational, from the POV of how a party that believes in itself will stick together and fight this as long as they can, just to cast doubt on the legitimacy of their opponent's win. They will take it to the state supreme court. They will appeal it in federal circuit court. They will take it all the way to the SCOTUS if they can. And that's just the start.

If they lose at every step, they'll use it as a talking point about liberals rewriting laws from the bench. They'll set up partisan "watchdog" groups to roll astroturf onto every editorial page in the state. They'll have people in Kansas and Oklahoma phone banking to every small town in Washington, solidifying their core and turning out the 2008 votes. They'll be canvassing outside the churches on Sunday morning to raise campaign ad money. They will do everything they can to have Gregoire recalled, impeached, and/or degraded at every opportunity.

There's already been some shit floated about having eastern Washington split off into another state. Not by bloggers or freeper scum, but by duly-elected Washington state reps. They don't do this because they think they have a chance in hell of winning all or even half of these legislative skirmishes, they do it to pick fights with the urban liberals. Why? Because their base likes it that way.

And because it works.

This isn't the end of the 2004 gubernatorial election, it's the beginning of the 2008 gubernatorial election.
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:57 PM
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18. You're right. This shit does work.
What I would like everyone here to think about is 'what can we do to make this shit stop?' When the Re-thugs are whining and crying about some perceived wrong brought on to them by the 'liberals', what would be a good way to 'make the child behave?' Any Moms out there with a good plan to discipline a young child?
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iam Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:24 PM
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27. you got it right
conservatives know politics, Liberals know how to govern.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:09 AM
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3. Tough.
When they do something about the million or so stolen votes elsewhere, I'll care.

My heart bleeds for them! No! Really!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:09 AM
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4. They can re-vote Washington
If we can re-vote Ohio and Florida!!

Sounds fair to me.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:12 AM
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5. Republicans have expended resources searching for felons. That's
money they could have used to help fuel the multi million dollar propaganda campaign for Bush's social security scam.

They have to be more focused.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:16 AM
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6. Apparently
one voted Repub and who knows how many more?!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:53 AM
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7. What was that, that thing "Failed Canidate" Rossi said...
...when he was trying to stop the Hand Re-count?

Hummmmm, oh yah, "Get Over It! You Lost!

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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:58 AM
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8. 'B-1 Bob' Dornan kept
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 02:59 AM by xxqqqzme
his defeat by Loretta Sanchez in the news 'n courts 4 2 years 'n Sanchez beat him a 2nd time.

Whiney-ass sore losers!
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:45 AM
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9. They are just amazing, pissed off but still trying to cheat
:kick:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 04:15 AM
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10. See why republicans are "on top" of everything?
They are like pit bulls. They NEVER EVER concede anything. Even though Gregoire is governor, and won fair and square (at least a whole lot fairer and squarer than *² ever did), they will continue to wring every bit of pus out of this story, so that all during her term,she will be harrassed and criticized (freeped), and by the time re-election comes around, there will be ads "cautioning" the public about her "stealing another one"..

It costs them nothing to poison the well.. They have "recruits" on radio, TV and "on the ground" who are devoted to anything that is anti-democrat.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:28 AM
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14. Yep, at least one other person posting in this thread gets it
SoCalDem has seen it happen firsthand already. The GOP will fight for power at every opportunity, even in the face of seemingly difficult odds. That word again, in case there are any national Dems reading, is fight.

F-I-G-H-T.

fight v. fought, (fôt) fight·ing, fights v. intr.
1.
a. To attempt to harm or gain power over an adversary by blows or with weapons.
b. Sports. To engage in boxing or wrestling.
2. To engage in a quarrel; argue: They are always fighting about money.
3. To strive vigorously and resolutely: fought against graft; fighting for her rights.

2004 may just be over, but 2008 has already begun.
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:04 PM
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21. Both of you are right.
We, as liberals, need to find our backbone. Too much of what is wrong with the world is our own damn fault because we gave up!

To quote from that corny movie 'Galaxy Quest': "Never give up. Never Surrender!" That should be our new motto.
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cire4 Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 05:19 AM
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11. Hey Washington Republicans: GET OVER IT
Karma's a bitch, ain't it?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:22 AM
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13. my, my! if there's something to this, i think we should all do something
about it! NOT! bwahahahahaha. the thugs have themselves over a barrel.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:47 AM
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15. its time for someone to get the goods on Rossi
and really through a lot of shit out there and see what sticks. Ask yourself "what would Newt do?"
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:11 AM
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16. All of them probably voted Republican too. eom
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:59 AM
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17. and the republicans are on a first name basis
with every one of them.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:59 PM
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19. Filthy unwashed criminal Democrats: the Barbarians at the Gate
Fuck people who think like this. Rich wholesale felons like Charles Colson and Ollie North get emancipated; po' retail felons get fucked forever.

The posturing of being the upright members of society is sickening.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:08 PM
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24. Dont forget G. Gordon Liddy--white collar burglar and liar Guckert.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:04 PM
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20. "Get over it" just ain't possible, is it?
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quiet_please Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:06 PM
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22. They
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 02:07 PM by quiet_please
need to just let this go. It was counted, recounted, and the voters spoke. It isn't our fault that the human eye is more accurate than a "machine" that is supposed to be apolitical.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:06 PM
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23. What makes them think felons would support Gregoire?
The felons from Enron, WorldCom, etc., etc, ad nauseam all seem like good little repukes to me.
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:15 PM
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25. Who won illegal votes of felons? (Seattle P-I)
Wednesday, February 23, 2005

Who won illegal votes of felons?
Republicans' challenge to Gregoire win raises question

By NEIL MODIE
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

Democratic Gov. Christine Gregoire won more votes from urbanites in the 2004 election while Dino Rossi, her Republican opponent, got more rural votes. Gregoire had probably more women's votes and Rossi more from men.

OK, but which candidate captured the hearts of the convicted felons who broke the law by voting?

Republicans said in court papers yesterday that at least 1,108 felons voted illegally, as did at least 55 other voters -- a total more than eight times as large as Gregoire's 129-vote margin of victory over Rossi in a hand recount.

But Democratic Party lawyers argue that for the Republicans to win their lawsuit to overturn Gregoire's election, they must prove that those voters substantially favored the Democratic governor -- which might require dragging individual felons into court to say for whom they voted.

That's ridiculous, replied Mary Lane, Rossi's spokeswoman. "Are they seriously talking about bringing in a bunch of criminals and putting them on the stand? I mean, that's absurd. They're criminals!"

But Jenny Durkan, one of the Democratic Party's lawyers, said that's exactly what prior court cases have required: that anyone contesting an election prove that illegal votes changed the outcome. She said that would require finding out for whom the illegal votes were cast.

"Obviously the Republicans don't want to do that because they say they can't prove that Dino won the election, and that's exactly what they have to prove," Durkan said.

In response to written pretrial questions submitted by Democratic attorneys, Republicans said they have found at least 1,108 votes cast by felons whose rights hadn't been restored; 45 cast on behalf of deceased voters; 10 cast by people who voted more than once in Washington; and five by people who voted in Washington and another state.

More:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/213202_governor23.html
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:24 PM
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26. if the dems had only scrutinized Florida 2000, Florida 2004, and Ohio 2004
so throughly...
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