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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:28 AM
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Iran to Bush: Don't Meddle with Our Independence
President Bush should be aware that the United States would pay a heavier price than Iran if it tried to encroach on the Islamic state's independence, President Mohammad Khatami said Wednesday.

"America does not like an independent Iran, the question is how far they can (take away Iran's independence), and ... what price they would have to pay to achieve that end," he told a news conference after a weekly cabinet meeting. Tehran and Washington, enemies since the 1979 Islamic revolution, have been engaged in a fierce war of words in recent weeks.

Bush has accused Iran's clerical leaders of sponsoring terrorism, trampling on human rights and secretly building nuclear arms, although he stressed during a visit to Germany on Wednesday that diplomatic efforts to resolve the differences were only just beginning.

Iran dismisses the U.S. charges as propaganda and accuses the United States of conducting arrogant and destructive policies in the Middle East in support of its ally, Israel. "I believe that if he (Bush) has any sense he should know they can't (overturn Iran's independence), and if they can, the price they will pay is far heavier than we would," Khatami said. Iranian officials consider regaining independence in foreign and domestic affairs as one of the most notable successes of the revolution which toppled the U.S.-backed shah.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=586&e=1&u=/nm/20050223/wl_nm/bush_iran_dc
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FuzzyDicePHL Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:38 AM
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1. Ignunt
How in the world Bush can blame another country for trampling human rights is a mystery to me. He's so ignunt.

Personally, I think Khatami should already know Bush doesn't have any sense, except for a sense of self-entitlement.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:59 AM
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2. bush DOES like your oil.... doesn't like Iran talk of Euro's
and since he thinks he has our blessing (corp media cartel)...he can do what he wants.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:20 AM
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3. America does not like an independent Iran ?
It bugs me that as an American I have to be a part of this. The neocons don't want an independent Iran and I am not a neocon.

Most Americans don't want anything to do with a conflict in Iran. Bush is not my president and Bush does not represent my views.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 09:51 AM
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4. US neocons have had a hard-on about Iran for over 25 years. . .
when they lost their ally the Shah in January 1979 and Iranian militants seized the US embassy in November of that year.

Problem is, the Iranians have a longer memory than the neocons. Twice as long, actually. The older ones have not forgotten 1953 when a CIA-backed coup usurped their democratically-elected President Mossadeq and imposed a monarchy-dictatorship on them. They've been suspicious about US intentions ever since. Can't really blame them. They may not be crazy about their mullah-dominated theocracy right now, but as far as they are concerned, it's THEIR problem and THEIR solution, NOT somebody else's, least of all the US's.

Best to leave well enough alone with them. They're already looking at forming alliances with Russia and China. Making themselves a "poison pill", as it were.

:evilfrown:
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 10:11 AM
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5. We hate their Freedom ...

Cheers
Drifter
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:36 PM
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7. And you'll still be seeing thing as you seem to be seeing things.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:40 PM
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8. Um, tell me what Iran has done to us.
No, go on, tell me, in EXPLICIT detail, with dates and facts, exactly what Iran has done to us to warrant a pre-emptive attack on them.

And I don't mean what they COULD do. That doesn't count. Lots of countries COULD do lots of things.

While you're at it, why don't you go ahead and tell me what Iraq did to deserve getting their country blown apart and thousands killed by the US?

WE know bush is a nasty, immoral, warmongerer. He is hurting the US far more than any other country.

Iran is a sovereign country that has not harmed us. If it weren't for bush trying to make every country in the world his bitch, if it weren't for his nasty ways, none of this saber-rattling WOULD EVEN BE HAPPENING!!!

Do you get it now, possibly? Or not?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:47 PM
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9. Who's Openly Cheering? I Don't See Anyone Openly Cheering
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 03:48 PM by Beetwasher
Please point to people openly cheering. You can't because you're full of shit.

"Do you really think for one split second if given the chance N.K. would invade S.K. and China would attack Taiwan. Terrorists and rouge nations who want nukes existed long before Bush got into office and they will still be around when Bush leaves office."

Are you too big of an ignorant moron that you don't see that the US is the one running around invading countries for no good reason? You're a fucking idiot. No one's cheering for Iran you moron, but they have every right to defend themselves against aggressors. They DO have an ELECTED government you know. Brainwashed dumbass.
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SomewhereOutThere424 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:53 PM
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10. Thanks to Bush
No place is a nice place to live or work. That's why we oppose him. You read our opinions, it's good, but try to let go of the 'facts' that bush is our lord and savior...and look at the horrors he's unleashed. We are facing the risk of nuclear fallout because of words like 'bring it on'. We are facing environmental destruction, due to not having flu shots we are overly suseptable to the bird flu if it ever became a pandemic.

What is with us people? We love freedom. We may like anyone who attacks our president, but only because we know our president is on the same level as castro, pong yang, osama. We know that he likes to give speeches to make us all afraid so he can better destroy the country we love. We stand up for ourselves....because no one else wants to stand up for the country millions have died to protect. I think it's honorable, not ignorant.

I'm sorry to tell you, but terrorists have existed since the birth of the vikings. We only use it as a scapegoat because bush came into office with the worst terrorist record of almost, or perhaps every other president. I am a new yorker, my best friend saw the worst tragedies, human remains, the scent of burning flesh. My best friend was a 9/11 relief worker who lost many of his own friends there and gave blood sweat and tears for the mess our nation's president ignored while reading children's stories to a floridian kindergarten...

...and how dare you question OUR patriotism.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:59 PM
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11. Actually, Cuba & Iran are democracies.
There may be questions about some of their elections--but, hey, who are we to talk?

And Bush has not said a bad word about China. They are our good buddies!

We need to deal with all these nations through diplomatic means. Not by invading, not by supporting "dissidents." They might have legitimate complaints, but our covert support taints them.
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