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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 10:56 AM
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Officials: Infant Girl Was Sexually Abused


Thursday February 24, 2005 3:46 PM


HOUSTON (AP) - An infant who prosecutors say was sexually assaulted is expected to be released from a hospital in the next few days and make a full recovery, officials said.

The 7-month-old has been removed from a respirator and is eating on her own, County Child Protective Services spokeswoman Estella Olguin said Wednesday.

The baby suffered damage to every vital organ and her tongue had been nearly severed when she was admitted to the hospital Feb. 2, police said. Prosecutors say she was sexually assaulted.

``We've never seen those types of injuries in a baby that was alive,'' Olguin said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4823108,00.html
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 10:59 AM
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1. OK, When I end up in hell,
and I won't fight that judgement if it comes, I better not end up next to the people that did this to that little girl. There better be a special place for them. In my opinion, this is the worst crime there is. :grr:
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oneold1-4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 11:05 AM
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2. You're damned right!!
But we have to start with getting them "outa here" first and then if we have to, we'll clean them from where the xtian cons say we are going!
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vpigrad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 11:06 AM
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3. And in a world ruled by repukes...
you're just going to have more and more of this type of thing.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 11:38 AM
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4. The death penalty is totally justified for these sick, sadistic pigs.
Sorry, nobody can convince me otherwise on this one. These cruel, vile creatures deserve the worst. How could anyone torture/sexually assault an infant?:grr:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 11:56 AM
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6. yeah, death penalty definitely okay on this kind of tcrime
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:28 AM
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36. i think the death penalty...
... just releases them! they are gone. they suffer no more. their families may suffer, but the criminal feels nothing after that. i prefer a life sentence, so they can suffer.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 09:53 PM
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31. As the parent of a victim-
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 09:54 PM by BeHereNow
I am an advocate of mandatory tatoos to identify
pedophiles.
I do not under any circumstance advocate the death
penalty, however I do advocate clear and identifiable
marking of offenders. The person who violated my child had
a prior record and yet was employed as a landscaper
at her pre school.
If he'd been clearly identified as a pedophile with a tatoo
of some sort, it would never have happened.
BHN
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:35 AM
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33. My deepest sympathy to you and your child.
I think my anger would know no bounds under those circumstances.
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:30 AM
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38. that is a great idea
i am so sorry this happened to you.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:53 AM
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34. The "death penalty" kills INNOCENT people!!
It doesn't make one fucking bit of difference what the purported crime is when the person who's convicted is, in fact, innocent! Indeed, the more heinous the alleged crime, the less likely that the person will receive the kind of defense and investigation that assures a finding of 'guilty' is valid. The 'logic' that the ills of capital punishment can be ameliorated by reserving it for the more heinous crimes totally and completely ignores the wrongful convictions that pervade the system.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:26 AM
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35. DIY
but dont grant the state powers they have already been shown to abuse.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:29 AM
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37. Yes, he DOES deserve the death penalty.
It's us, society, who don't deserve to become murderers.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 11:51 AM
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5. Child abuse/murder is epidemic in this country
Also from today's news:

Police: Man Kills 2 Kids, Slits Own Throat


Thursday February 24, 2005 3:46 PM

COLUMBUS, Ga. (AP) - A father fatally stabbed his two young children, wounded three other children and then killed himself by slitting his throat after a domestic dispute Wednesday in a lower-income neighborhood of south Columbus, police said.

Clarence Lacey Moore used a hunting knife to kill 1-year-old Clarence Smith Moore, who died on the floor beside his bed from a laceration to the throat, Muscogee County Coroner James Dunnavant told the Columbus Ledger-Enquirer. Stephan Smith Moore, 2, died in the emergency room at The Medical Center about two hours later from stab wounds to his head, neck and back, Dunnavant said.

Moore, 24, died in surgery shortly afterward.

The other three children underwent surgery at The Medical Center, hospital spokeswoman Marion Scott. The two boys - 3-year-old Shawn Smith and 5-year-old Shelton Smith - remained in critical condition Thursday, she said. Their older sister, Shelby Smith, 7, had her condition improve Thursday to stable and satisfactory.

More at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4823114,00.html
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 12:44 PM
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7. i am against the death penalty
but I just might make an exception for that guy
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 12:47 PM
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8. What is it about American culture that tends to spawn these crimes?
Cuts to social services and education, just maybe?
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:23 PM
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12. If I hear right, tort reform would solve it
:eyes:
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:32 PM
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21. It's not just American - we just have a more advance news system
Perversion is in EVERY country.
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Heyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 08:21 PM
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25. Yeah that's right..
...we didn't throw enough free money at them. That's why they would slit a child's throat or abuse an infant like that. It wouldn't be because they are just sick animals, now, would it?

Heyo
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 09:11 PM
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28. Popular entertainment that pairs sex with violence, for one...
.. the other being the objectification of YOUNG girls as sexual objects. Pick up any Victoria's Secret.. the models look as though they are 15, and are meant to look that way. If you look at the top searches for XXX sites, they are ALL for "young", "virgin", "barely legal", etc. We've let some members of our society push sex as violence for too long
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:55 PM
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20. I'm against the death penalty...no exceptions
This guy deserves worse than the death penalty anyway. He deserves to be in a maximum security prison for life. All the other inmates would know why he was in. Death would feel like relief for this monster.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:36 PM
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22. No way he would last in general population
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 04:36 PM by AngryAmish
So he gets put in segregation. Locked up 23-4 hours a day. There is no rule the guards have to talk to you. This monster will suffer (at least in US) if not die via the state.

(I'm not a death penalty supporter, but this sort of thing makes me want to break some amendments).
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 05:12 PM
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24. You right about that
Even among prisoners there are low crimes. I mean, they have kids,right?

So people that assault children are the lowest of the low in prison society.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:28 PM
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13. It Was Always Here. Always
This is the dark side of the coin that was the Sexual Revolution.

As the SR made it okay to talk about sex, it took a little longer, but it also enabled us to talk about sexual abuse and say, "this is not okay."
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:38 PM
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14. opps...my bad...i re-read your post
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 01:40 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:45 PM
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15. Didya Flame Me?
That wasn't very nice!



I missed it. Was it good?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:47 PM
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17. yeah, pretty bad LOL...i chewed ya a new rectum, thought you were blaming
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 01:49 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
it on the 60's before i read your subject line :crazy:

:7
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 12:48 PM
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9. If I die and go to Texas, I'll just have to learn to be a cowboy. n/t
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:05 PM
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10. Whack off his package
and shoot him, for all I care.

Or better yet after the whack job then send him to prison so Big Bubba can let him know what it feels like to have a much bigger person than him do some internal damage.

And if any whiners respond to posts like mine saying that this is cruel, well I could give a rats ass about some scumbag who inflicts their own cruelty on an innocent child and in my opinion they are not human :freak: and they don't deserve to live.

Get rid of 'em before they hurt someone else!
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:32 PM
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19. that is so sick. I hope they rot where they go.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 05:03 PM
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23. And now someone is going to tell me that the perp doesn't deserve death.
When quite clearly this "person" deserves to be put down like a dog. In fact putting them to sleep would be far too humane. I would personally give them the Marcellus Wallace treatment.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 10:30 AM
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39. See post #37. (nt)
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 09:05 PM
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26. Throw him to the lions...
Some good old school Roman punishment...
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 09:08 PM
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27. Whack off his tallywhacker!
It would calm him down and would be better than death.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 09:12 PM
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29. Seriously tho, why not whack off his weapon?
There is a movement to sterlize drug addicted women who keep having babies, why not take away the sex offender's weapon?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 09:49 PM
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30. With the dismantling of social services
you can brace yourself for more stories of this ilk.
Social services in this country were designed to identify
and lessen these sorts of high risk individuals.
Compassionate conservatisim my ASS.
Thanks to those few who profit from the REPUKIAN policies,
far more at risk children will slip through the cracks.
If we effectively funded social workers in this country,
the perp in this case might have been identified and the child
protected BEFORE this atrocity was inflicted.
I am willing to lay money on the fact that the offender
had prior records.
BHN
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 10:19 PM
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32. Some interesting facts in the story -
The young parents have been charged in the crime (not convicted - charged). Father is 22, mother 19, and the infant has a 16 month old sister. By my calculation, the mother was probably 15 when she got pregnant for the first time (not counting any unknown miscarriages or children possibly put up for adoption) and probably got knocked up for the second time the day she came home from the hospital with the first baby. So now the young and undoubtedly uneducated parents are home with two screaming babies and probably financial overload.

And I'm not a gambler, but I would bet a hundred bucks to a doughnut that "mom" was a regular victim of domestic violence herself, and that one or the other or both of the parents may well have been victims themselves of child abuse (where most often people originally learn these behaviors).

Excuses? No. Just an attempt to understand how to prevent this ever happening to another child.
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