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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 05:37 PM
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Within C.I.A., Growing Worry Of Prosecution -NYT
There is widening unease within the Central Intelligence Agency over the possibility that career officers could be prosecuted or otherwise punished for their conduct during interrogations and detention of terrorism suspects, according to current and former government officials.

Until now, only one C.I.A. employee, a contract worker from North Carolina, has been charged with a crime in connection with the treatment of prisoners, stemming from a death in Afghanistan in 2003. But the officials confirmed that the agency had asked the Justice Department to review at least one other case, from Iraq, to determine if a C.I.A. officer and interpreter should face prosecution.

In addition, the current and former government officials said the agency's inspector general was now reviewing at least a half-dozen other cases, and perhaps many more, in what they described as an expanding circle of inquiries to determine whether C.I.A. employees had been involved in any misconduct.

Previously, intelligence officials have acknowledged only that "several" cases were under review by the agency's inspector general. But one government official said, "There's a lot more out there than has generally been recognized, and people at the agency are worried."

.........MORE...........

http://nytimes.com/2005/02/27/international/27intel.html?hp&ex=1109480400&en=a44a8a0c1ca6137b&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 05:48 PM
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1. But not word one about Gonzales.
He should be in the sweatbox with the rest of these freaks.

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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 05:50 PM
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2. If Gonzales' Justice dept prosecutes agents for torture...
what will be the result? Will it clean up his image or will the irony drown out everything else? I think they could be prepping him for a Court nomination.

This article is good- almost Hersh good. There is some stuff coming and I always like seeing that.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 11:13 PM
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7. they should feel safe for that very reason--Gonzalez is there, no worries.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 11:24 PM
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8. I'm sure Gonzalez has a spot reserved at the dock at the ICC.

Probably number four behind bush, rummy, and crashcart.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:08 PM
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3. Priest in the Post writes: CIA Moves to Second Fiddle in Intelligence Work
Edited on Sat Feb-26-05 07:08 PM by Rose Siding
The nomination of National Director of Intelligence John D. Negroponte this month signaled the end of the CIA's nearly 60-year run as the undisputed center of power and influence in the secret world of intelligence.

From its Cold War heyday of spy-vs.-spy confrontation with the Soviet Union, to its rebirth as the lead strike force against al Qaeda's leadership, the CIA earned its standing not from its size, budget or weapons systems, but from the sway its directors held over presidents and the legend of its covert operations overseas.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56278-2005Feb26.html

Is this the swan song? Has bush beat them after all?

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 07:11 PM
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4. They control the legal system now but what about 10 years
they can still be arrested and charged as War Criminals who did not observe the Geneva Convention

These men are learning following orders of a superior won't cover them they are very vulnerable here!!!
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:58 PM
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5. Time for them to implicate their superiors.
They shouldn't be prosecuted alone.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 10:00 PM
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6. Are they kidding? General Torture loves the idea of suffering!
The Justice Department has a HARDON for the C I A. Just try to hold a fair trial - it will never happen.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:35 AM
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9. Within C.I.A., Growing Worry of Prosecution
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/27/international/27intel.html?hp&ex=1109566800&en=8b815739ba66e5f1&ei=5094&partner=homepage

February 27, 2005
Within C.I.A., Growing Worry of Prosecution
By DOUGLAS JEHL and DAVID JOHNSTON

ASHINGTON, Feb. 26 - There is widening unease within the Central Intelligence Agency over the possibility that career officers could be prosecuted or otherwise punished for their conduct during interrogations and detentions of terrorism suspects, according to current and former government officials. Until now, only one C.I.A. employee, a contract worker from North Carolina, has been charged with a crime in connection with the treatment of prisoners, stemming from a death in Afghanistan in 2003. But the officials confirmed that the agency had asked the Justice Department to review at least one other case, from Iraq, to determine if a C.I.A. officer and interpreter should face prosecution.

In addition, the current and former government officials said the agency's inspector general was now reviewing at least a half-dozen other cases, and perhaps many more, in what they described as an expanding circle of inquiries to determine whether C.I.A. employees had been involved in any misconduct. Previously, intelligence officials have acknowledged only that "several" cases were under review by the agency's inspector general. But one government official said, "There's a lot more out there than has generally been recognized, and people at the agency are worried."

Of particular concern, the officials said, is the possibility that C.I.A. officers using interrogation techniques that the government ruled as permissible after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks might now be punished, or even prosecuted, for their actions in the line of duty. The details of some of the inquiries have been reported, but the government officials said other cases under review have never been publicly disclosed. Officials declined to provide details of all the cases now under scrutiny. They would not say whether the reviews were limited to incidents in Iraq and Afghanistan, where C.I.A. officers have been particularly active, or whether they might extend to cases from other countries, possibly including secret sites around the world where three dozen senior leaders of Al Qaeda are being held by the agency.

The officials said that the concern within the ranks had been growing since the agency's removal of its station chief in Baghdad, Iraq, in December 2003 in part because of concerns about the deaths of two Iraqis who had been questioned by C.I.A. employees. The reason for the station chief's removal has not been previously disclosed. Former and current intelligence officials say the action occurred nearly four months before a wider pattern of abuse at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq became publicly known. The removal was ordered by senior officials at C.I.A. headquarters in Washington within several weeks of their learning about the deaths of the Iraqi prisoners in separate incidents.

more....
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:35 AM
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10. the backstory here is that "misconduct" has become axiomatic....
It's out in the open now, so the rat bastards are beginning to skitter out of the light.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:35 AM
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11. "Please don't prosecute us for murdering people."
Edited on Sun Feb-27-05 01:03 AM by LostInAnomie
"We were only following orders."
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:35 AM
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12. Yowza.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:35 AM
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13. I hope so
all the way up to Bu$h.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 06:07 AM
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14. Time to start cutting some deals, innit?
Say, immunity for telling everything about the bu$h/Cheney axis?
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:14 PM
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15. kick
too bad there is a 24 hour limit on "greatest" threads.
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