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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:04 AM
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2 Russian Reporters Challenge Bush
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2005/02/28/003.html

BRATISLAVA, Slovakia -- Incensed by U.S. talk of a lack of press freedom in Russia, two Russian reporters tried to turn the tables on U.S. President George W. Bush during his news conference with President Vladimir Putin.

After Bush said he had raised concerns about Russia's democracy in Thursday's talks with Putin and felt reassured, he suddenly found himself on the defensive.

"Mr. Bush, not long ago you made the statement that the press in Russia is not free. What, in your view, is that lack of freedom all about?" Interfax reporter Alexei Meshkov asked.

Before Bush could answer, the reporter then turned on Putin and demanded to know why he was not sticking up for Russian reporters by talking about violations of the rights of American journalists.

A startled Bush then replied that Putin had brought up the subject of journalists getting fired recently in the United States.

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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:06 AM
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1. "Reporters challenge Bush"
Three words we normally don't see together in America.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:44 AM
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5. Haven't seen those 3 words here since 9-11.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:14 PM
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25. They didn't challenge Herr Busch before 911 either. The only reporter....
...who tried to challenge Herr Busch was Helen Thomas...and we all know what happened to her.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:05 PM
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8. We sure could use some of that
(challenging the president) in the USA. It would be something like a fourth estate or freedom of the press. I would like that very much.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:55 PM
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11. That would certainly be refreshing!
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:03 PM
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12. I'd be happy with "reporters"
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 02:04 PM by lebkuchen
used in the unadulterated (no pun intended) sense of the word.
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Morose Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:54 PM
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23. I was beginning to think we must have some
administrative law against Reporters asking the Shrub challenging questions....

Isn't it a threat to national security or something?
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:09 AM
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2. an even better excerpt
Earlier in Thursday's news conference, another Russian reporter, Andrei Kolesnikov from Kommersant, which is often critical of Putin, said America's democracy was also faulty. He urged Bush and Putin to see this as a unifying factor.

"It seems to me that you have nothing to disagree about," Kolesnikov said, addressing the two presidents. "And it is worth agreeing that the regimes in place in Russia and the United States cannot be considered fully democratic, especially when compared to some countries of Europe, for example, to the Netherlands.

"It seems to me that, as far as Russia is concerned, excuse me Vladimir Vladimirovich, everything is more or less clear. But as far as the United States is concerned, we could probably talk at length."

The Kommersant reporter said Bush should account for limits on personal freedoms imposed after the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001. But before Bush had a chance to respond, Kolesnikov called on the two presidents "to simply agree , to shake hands and continue to be friends."




:wow:

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:15 AM
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3. Sounds like Vlad and his comrades in the Russian media...
...played Chimp Boy like a fiddle to me. I wonder if dim bulb stomped his feet and demand that they call him Mr. President like he does here in the USA?

Don

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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:17 PM
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9. This was the most important part of that show
and only Maureen Dowd picked up on it. The reporter so nonchalantly said, "There is no disagreement - neither country is democratic."

I said, BINGO!!!!!
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:27 AM
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4. Nothing to see here.
Interfax reporter Alexei Meshkov
and
Andrei Kolesnikov from Kommersant
are two journalists you can forget about
ever seeing on your local men4men/hotwhitehousewhore.org/sm board.

And they each have such a nice BIG pair of ....
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:56 AM
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6. "A startled Bush"? And just why do you think there aren't more
press conferences here in the US with our dear *? He is always "startled" by honest questions, stumbles and delivers "Bushspeak". What a guy, I believe he will go down in history as the worst president ever along with the most corrupt administration and the historians will ask where were the governed and why didn't they do something.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:05 AM
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7. Wasn't the Irish reporter that asked semi-tough questions reprimanded?
there was a woman from Ireland that asked him slightly tough questions and got Bush all flustered & defensive like the coward that he is... but, the Bush gang demanded that she be reprimanded.

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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:33 PM
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10. Yes, Coleman just did her job
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0629-02.htm

June 29, 2004 by the Capital Times / Madison, Wisconsin
Pampered Bush Meets a Real Reporter
by John Nichols

<snip>


Unfortunately, it appears that Coleman failed to receive the memo informing reporters that they are supposed to treat this president with kid gloves. Instead, she confronted him as any serious journalist would a world leader.

She asked tough questions about the mounting death toll in Iraq, the failure of U.S. planning, and European opposition to the invasion and occupation. And when the president offered the sort of empty and listless "answers" that satisfy the White House press corps - at one point, he mumbled, "My job is to do my job" - she tried to get him focused by asking precise follow-up questions.

The president complained five times during the course of the interview about the pointed nature of Coleman's questions and follow-ups - "Please, please, please, for a minute, OK?" the hapless Bush pleaded at one point, as he demanded his questioner go easy on him.

After the interview was done, a Bush aide told the Irish Independent newspaper that the White House was concerned that Coleman had "overstepped the bounds of politeness."

As punishment, the White House canceled an exclusive interview that had been arranged for RTE with first lady Laura Bush.

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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:13 PM
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13. Found an excerpt of that interview...
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:17 PM
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14. "My job is to do my job"
wtf is THAT supposed to mean???
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:34 PM
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18. Yep, WTF....
Oh, and don't forget "It's hard work!" Cripes, I don't know when to stop laughing, and start crying!
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:40 PM
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21. you and me
both, brother! :crazy:
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:24 PM
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16. "where were the governed and why didn't they do something"
This will be the thorniest issue for historians to sort through - the Bush phenomenon is just a result of this problem.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:22 PM
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15. Alexei Meshkov, the Russian Jeff Gannon
Bush is obviously quite envious of Putin. Putin is way ahead of him on eliminating the independent press.

But Bush is catching up...
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jswordy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:25 PM
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17. HEHEHEHEH...that is why Putin and Bush have dumbfounded so many...
...with their friendship. They are kindred spirits! Thanks for the post!
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:01 PM
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19. Those reporters should learn to reframe!
I also love the "Mr. Bush", which is exactly the way he should be addressed all the time.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 06:24 PM
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22. Can you imagine what was going through dim bulbs little brain when...
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 06:25 PM by NNN0LHI
...they kept asking him questions and then wouldn't let him answer? Bet the little slime ball felt like a real idiot. Thats why he went back to his Waco pig farm to sulk. Probably drinking heavy too.

Don

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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:39 PM
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20. when can we hire these guys
to come and replace our sorry-assed press? This is one kind of outsourcing that I'd be happy to support!
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98geoduck Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 07:00 PM
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24. Nice of the Russian's to point out the similarities between Pooty and *!
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 07:01 PM by 98geoduck
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