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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:04 AM
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Blair: Hundreds planning terror attacks

By Joe Murphy Political Editor, Evening Standard
28 February 2005

The full scale of the terrorist threat confronting Britain was laid bare by the Prime Minister today.

In a chilling warning, he said "several hundred" active terrorists were already inside Britain and plotting atrocities.

All fell outside the existing power of the police and courts to prosecute them, he said. "There are several hundred in this country who we believe are engaged in plotting or trying to commit terrorist acts," he said.

Mr Blair issued an appeal for MPs to back the Government's emergency terror laws which face a growing rebellion in Parliament. The threat of a backbench revolt in the Commons tonight grew as former foreign secretary Robin Cook and several more MPs vowed to join the 32 who voted against the measures last week.

http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/16933820?source=Evening%20Standard
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:06 AM
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1. Well ...Blair supported bushes war on Islam.....
If you lie down with dogs, you get fleas.
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:24 AM
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2. Sure. Any lie to get those laws. I wonder when the CIA will blow up
Frankfurt train station. I'm sure the Bushistas have planned on these laws for all of Europe - and Schily is only too glad to oblige. We certainly live in interesting times.

Once Britain has these laws it cannot rightfully be called a democracy anymore. One sign of a democracy is that you CANNOT be jailed without a judge having found that you have comitted a crime.

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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:27 AM
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3. Nothing like a personal guarantee from Poodle...
either that, or he's gone into the soothsaying biz...
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:12 PM
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16. Blair's main job is in the soothsaying biz...
He sez he perfers crystal-gazing over palmistry.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:28 AM
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4. Blair is clearly imitating his American Idol...
but I don't think Britons will be duped as easily as their American counterparts.
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Benbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:02 PM
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10. I heard him saying this on the radio this morning, and I thought -
- I may regret saying this, Mr Blair, but I don't believe you. I so don't believe you. I don't believe ANYTHING you say, now. I know that the terrorist threat to London is far more severe than it was before the invasion of Iraq - thanks to our so-called Labour government getting into bed with an ultra-rightwing US administration - but I can't get rid of the suspicion that he would like to exert over the British population the same power that Bush seems to be able to exert over the Americans, whenever he wants, just by terrifying them with talk of planned terrorist attacks.

Blair also annoyed me by saying that the invasion of Iraq was the right thing to do at the time because otherwise "hundreds of thousands" of Iraqis would have been killed by Saddam Hussein. What about the hundreds of thousands that were killed by the invaders' bombs and missiles and scared troops on the ground over-reacting? What about the Iraqis killed by the terrorist in Iraq - a non-existent phenomenon during Saddam's time. What about the fact that women definitely had it better under Saddam: now women are being insulted, kidnapped and shot just for not wearing the hijab.

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Benbow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:16 PM
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11. What Blair really wants
This - the terrorist threat in the UK - has just been discussed on a late-afternoon radio news programme in the UK. It seems that there may be 200 or so "sympathisers" but unlikely to be 200 "operatives". That is still too many, of course. However, the powers that Blair is demanding include giving politicians the power to order house arrest; whereas this is properly something for the judiciary.

And, yes, the UK alignment with the US is not helping to make us any safer.


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Briar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:29 AM
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5. As if we should believe a word he says.
And as if this situation is any different from the state of affairs pre-9/11, or indeed the beginning of the peace process in Northern Ireland.

He's just appealing to the lowest common denominator (here, the British version of security moms) who will happily sell human rights to feel safe. Blatant populism is one of New Labour's hallmarks (and a stepping stone towards fascism).
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:29 AM
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6. I wondered why it's been so quiet here since Nov. 3, 04
all the tersts packed up and moved to the UK. There isn't an election there any time soon is there?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:40 AM
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7. interesting
hasn`t england been fighting a terrorist war for years with the ira? why does tony need these extra laws to fight terrorism? could it be he really likes bush`s use of terror to gain more power? lucky for the brits his party can throw him out when ever they like..
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D-Notice Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:29 PM
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12. Yes..
However, you've implying that Labour MPs are able to think for themselves...

With the odd exception of Robin Cook & Claire Short, it doesn't happen.

You'll see tonight when Parliament votes for house arrest on the grounds of "reasonable suspicion of the Home Secretary (the guy in charge of the police)" to see the true colours of our MPs...

:-( ;( :mad: :puke: :cry:
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:41 AM
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8. Pity Poodle & Shrub don't know their Woddy Allenisms:
Snip:
I never used to go to the beach, 'cos I come from Brooklyn, we only had Coney Island, which was an awful beach. Though there were rumours during the war that enemy submarines — German subs — came into the bathing area at Coney Island, and they were destroyed by the pollution."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-1488515_2,00.html
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:57 AM
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9. LOL......that's funny.....
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 11:58 AM by diamond14

:nuke:


it'd be GOOD if the British people are awake and THROW BLAIR OUT....it would also send a BIG WARNING to the bushites...
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:00 PM
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13. They are? Can't imagine why...
:eyes:
rocknation
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:01 PM
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14. he's trying to get Patrioat Act passed in their country ......Boooooooooo!
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:09 PM
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15. Woo! Woo! Boo! Must be close to elections over there. Oh, they are!
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:36 PM
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17. Wolf!!! Wolf!!!! I see a wolf!!!
Yawn. This is almost comical but it's too sad to be comical.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:38 PM
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18. Tony cries wolf >
Edited on Mon Feb-28-05 02:38 PM by Stephanie
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:02 PM
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19. Yeech!!! I just ate dinner -
and that wolf-like grin just got me sick to my stomach. LOL!!!
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