pResident Bush* address to the U.N. (En Vivo)

[FauxNewsBlues]

Live thread for those with the strong enough stomachs to actually watch Chimpy contort himself like a pretzel before the world's governing body.

Speech begins at 10:30 EDT 7:30PDT Carried by CSPAN, and the cable news networks.

[clar]

1. I hope he's

his usual arrogant self, and further alienates those whose help we need. There I said it. I know it's wrong, but I don't want bushco's tactics to prove effective.

[Cappurr]

2. Where is the link to the live thread?

[patdem]

4. Here is the link to C-Span

http://www.c-span.org/

[ewagner]

3. Suckered in

CNN's coverage was advertised to begin at 10AM.

Crap...that means we have to listen to 1/2 hour of pre-speech propaganda before Chimpy embarrasses himself!

[Mari333]

5. Yay Live thread Im watching..

Kofi Annan will precede Bush....that should be good. Bush after Kofi??? today is truly a day to be embarassed to be a USer.
:beer: start drinking early, O Ye Fellow Citizens.

[Cappurr]

24. I'm pissed

I can get the video, but no sound :mad:

[reprobate]

91. Was that intentional? An american is a user?

Well, I must admit that recent events uphold your usage of user.

[AntiSmirk]

6. NPR has coverage also

for us cube slaves

[Mari333]

7. Kofi speaks Eloquently and compassionately

! that should make Bush look even worse.

[Hogarth]

8. German Beer ...

...standing by.

[alfredo]

9. Exclusive, first draft of his speech

[Mari333]

12. LOL and Kofi is already going after Bush

making a speech about unilateralism and pre emptive strikes by "states", and the need for the UN to take over in Iraq..not mentioning Bush specifically, but mentioning the mistake of a pre emptive strike. Very well done..damning the * administration without using it's name...

[lazarus]

10. why in the world

are they using a translator when Annan is speaking English? That's just bizarre to watch.

[lazarus]

14. okay, they stopped

that was so strange...

[Zhade]

116. He started his speech in French! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

THAT'S why they had a translator - Kofi started in French before switching to English!

That's AWESOME.

[flamingyouth]

27. Too bad they don't use them for *!

Maybe they could correct his English for us. ;-)

[Mokito]

11. Without naming names

Anan is bashing Bush, or am I hearing wrong?

[Mari333]

13. I hear the same thing!!

Yep Yep Yep!

[0007]

20. Your hearing right

.....and the crowd is going wild, just kidding. But Kofi did get a good a applauds.

[kathee]

25. and flipping thru channels

i heard faux regurgitating in thier own words as if Annan were talking of say "China' or some such. Shit, they even spin for * Bush
when that puppet is getting dissed!

[lebkuchen]

15. Seems like yesterday the Chimp was telling the UN it was irrelevant

Now he's scratching and clawing for their support.

The UN is, no doubt, convinced that Chimpy is nothing more than a deranged human sequin, all show and blow.

[Mari333]

16. "History is a harsh Judge

it will not forgive us if we let this moment pass"....Kofi Annan
asking the UN to stay strong in all this....

[catmandu57]

17. I know they won't but

I wish the UN would boo that son of a bitch right back to texas.

[Mari333]

18. or drag him out in chains

! that would make me smile...........

[spinbaby]

19. Did I hear that right?

They're limiting speakers to 15 minutes?

Doesn't * have a 22-minute speech?

[Mari333]

23. They have to give him more minutes

because of his bumbling and stumbling through the English language.

[bill]

21. Da Silva of Brasil up

NT

[dArKeR]

22. Why call it a speech? It's just reading a teleprompter. In school, work,

and religous events the speaker has to memorize the entire speech. Do you think Bush is capable? NOT. He can hardly read a script.

[Merlin]

26. The UN is already dumping on His Shrubness!

De Silva is making clear to His Heinous that unilateral intervention is a violation of legitimacy and an insult to the community of nations.

This seems to be an extraordinary delay of a US President's scheduled address in order to hear from dignitaries from "lesser" states.

[spinbaby]

28. They're making him wait

Let's make him wait and keep him nervously sweating in the wings.

[Mari333]

30. He thinks he is the King of the World

The UN is setting him straight.

[leftchick]

31. LOL...make the emporer chimp wait....

make his sorry ass sweat.... he ought to be good and pissed when he stumbles out. Twice the verbal screw-ups expected....

[Merlin]

32. "It is time to call Peace by its true name: Social Justice."

Ernesto de Silva, President of Brazil

[Barrett808]

59. The old regime weapons weapons,

while allowing the infrastructure to crumble.

Oooh, wicked irony.

[Cappurr]

29. Well....I finally got the audio fixed...

Missed Anan's speach. Now there is some guy from Brazil on. When the hell is Shrub coming on?

[Mari333]

33. He is smirking!

that little bastard!
You can hear a PIN DROP

[DemonFighterLives]

53. Plenty of smirks for everyone

Colin and Condi love it. The Iraq and Afghan delegations don't look so happy as he points them out. What a dork.

[lazarus]

34. bwaahahahaha

No applause.

Someone's cell phone goes off.

And he starts off the talk with 9/11.

Oi, vey.

[Stuckinthebush]

36. Isn't that telling?

No applause.

Wow. I thought they applauded at the beginning of all speeches.

[lazarus]

46. he seemed to be looking around

That was a deliciously uncomfortable moment.

He appears, on occasion, to be expecting applause.

Oh, did you hear that? Murmuring when he claimed that Saddam had WMDs.

[sal]

73. he keeps halting for applaus that never come

just crickets chirping

[Merlin]

35. Silence after the intro?

Is that normal?

[bill]

37. 9/11...9/11....

how many times is * going to say "terrorist"?

[Mari333]

44. He's projecting!!

talking about gangsters and taking the lives of the innocent..
Terra Terra Terra!

[jayfish]

38. 9/11 Right Off The Bat.

Then a list of the attacks since the start of the war on terra. Not very smart.

Jay

[Hogarth]

39. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!

It burns ... it burns!

[Stuckinthebush]

43. LOL!

My thoughts exactly.

I can't stand looking at this moron.

[Fridays Child]

He starts by invoking 9-11, then Sergio Viera di Mello

He is contempible.

[ewagner]

40. Look at his hands!

His hands are trembling!!!!

[BehindTheCurtain]

47. Hands trembling...

Voice cracking a bit...Poor *'s not receiving a kind reception.

[UpInArms]

41. ABC carrying * speech

and he has invoked terrasm and de Mello -

gack!

[leftchick]

42. omg...I'm gonna vomit

9/11, 9/11...the have no shame these asses...have to turn it off..

[wiggle-room]

45. God what a hypocrite

he's describing the Iraqi resistance (trrrrissts), yet it sounds like he's describing his own regime

[Mari333]

49. He actually thinks he is a fucking Hero!

and wants to present himself as one! what incredible BULLshit!!

[Stuckinthebush]

48. Does he really think these diplomats are that stupid?

Here he is in front of them trying his damndest to connect Iraq and 9/11. Everyone in that audience knows he is full of shit. Also, they know that he has found zilch in the way of WMDs. He has nothing.

And yet this arrogant ass stands up there and lies.

He makes me physically ill.

[Merlin]

51. No. He thinks the American people are that stupid.

And sadly, he's not all wrong.

This speech is addressed not to the UN but to the US.

[Stuckinthebush]

57. You're correct

He doesn't give a damn about the world. He just cares about continuing his lie to us.

[UpInArms]

50. Taliban is no more???

huh???

I want some of what he's smoking!

weapons of mass murder -

now invoking the Security Council - and talking about the credibility of the United Nations (in regard to Afghanistan) but is neglecting to mention how * declared it irrevelant regarding Iraq.

:puke:

(meanwhile the market is experiencing the piehole effect)

[Snellius]

52. Why is he getting teary eyed?

He really psychs himself into believing his bu**sh**.

The trouble with Bush is not so much that he is stupid but that he doesn't know how to think. He doesn't present an argument, thought out to try to rationally convince by logic and rhetoric. He lectures. He preaches sermons all saying that anyone who disagrees is wrong and only he is right.

[kathee]

54. drip..drip.drip

.

[Mari333]

55. Normal sign of a hangover

teary eyes, shaky hands, etc

[jayfish]

56. No, It's Because He...

is embarrassed by his own words. War is peace! War is peace!


Jay

[Fridays Child]

58. A free Afghanistan? Not according to this writer...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4756139-108920,00.html

-snip-

These were the same warlords who, vying for control of Kabul after the Russians left in 1989, pulverised the city, killing 50,000 civilians, half of them in one year, 1994, according to Human Rights Watch. Thanks to the Americans, effective control of Afghanistan has been ceded to most of the same mafiosi and their private armies, who rule by fear, extortion and monopolising the opium poppy trade that supplies Britain with 90% of its street heroin. The post-Taliban government is a facade; it has no money and its writ barely runs to the gates of Kabul, in spite of democratic pretensions such as the election planned for next year. Omar Zakhilwal, an official in the ministry of rural affairs, told me that the government gets less than 20% of the aid that is delivered to Afghanistan - "We don't even have enough money to pay wages, let alone plan reconstruction," he said. President Harmid Karzai is a placeman of Washington who goes nowhere without his posse of US Special Forces bodyguards.

In a series of extraordinary reports, the latest published in July, Human Rights Watch has documented atrocities "committed by gunmen and warlords who were propelled into power by the United States and its coalition partners after the Taliban fell in 2001" and who have "essentially hijacked the country". The report describes army and police troops controlled by the warlords kidnapping villagers with impunity and holding them for ransom in unofficial prisons; the widespread rape of women, girls and boys; routine extortion, robbery and arbitrary murder. Girls' schools are burned down. "Because the soldiers are targeting women and girls," the report says, "many are staying indoors, making it impossible for them to attend school go to work."

In the western city of Herat, for example, women are arrested if they drive; they are prohibited from travelling with an unrelated man, even an unrelated taxi driver. If they are caught, they are subjected to a "chastity test", squandering precious medical services to which, says Human Rights Watch, "women and girls have almost no access, particularly in Herat, where fewer than one per cent of women give birth with a trained attendant". The death rate of mothers giving birth is the highest in the world, according to Unicef. Herat is ruled by the warlord Ismail Khan, whom US defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld endorsed as "an appealing man... thoughtful, measured and self-confident".

-snip-

[Mari333]

64. He is lying through his teeth

I can hear the UN diplomats brains yelling BULLSHIT in every language.

[no_arbusto]

76. I swear I heard a couple of "Bullshit, bullshit" coughs out there

Maybe I'm just hearing things though.

AIDS, sex trade, terra, human trafficking, terra, terra, AIDS, abolition of slavery, money, terra, moral clarity....

He's all over the place.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

92. Horrible indictment of Bush's policies against women and children!!

This is worth printing out to leave around public areas in the US to develop outrage against the Bush propaganda machine. I'd start with every denomination of church. Especially in the south of this country where the disconnect between professed values and knowledge of what is actually happening is greatest.

[kathee]

60. Thank goodness

the representatives of these countries DO read the news, unlike having it read TO them in spinned excerpts...
:puke:

[jayfish]

66. He Seems To Think That He Controls...

all media, not just the US herd.

Jay

[Fridays Child]

61. Gosh, George, Iraq sounds like a great place to vacation!

I'm calling my travel agent today!

:mad:

[MurrayDelph]

111. That's what I was thinking!

To hear him tell it:

building schools
building roads
childhood disease immunization
democracy

Hell, he doesn't believe in that stuff HERE, but he wants us to
believe he is making sure Iraq has it!

[Desertrose]

62. he can't seriously believe anyone is buying what he's

trying to sell...CAN HE???

What a fool....what an attempt at sucking up?

What a guilt tripper...man, he's trying everything he can...and if the UN helps , it sure won't be to save HIS butt- but for the people of Iraq!

HOW DID THIS POOR EXCUSE OF A HUMAN BEING GET TO BE MY PREZ???? ptoooey!

peace
DR

[lazarus]

63. Now he's off on Palestine

we will work with nations that "act boldly" for peace.

And now he's off on WMD again.

[Mari333]

68. haha a Palestinian state?

that will go over well with his extremist Christian fundybase..NOT

[kathee]

65. nuke ya ler

another word the translators are probably laughing at...and of course the evil Suh Dayam.

[Hogarth]

67. He's flipping the pages ...

... of his binder first forward then backward. What a poseur!

[bill]

71. I saw that..

Now it's on to slavery

This is sickening (both slavery and *)

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

69. lol did you see him turn the page

in his book? he did it backwards. he turned to the previous page!!!

this on the heels of letterman's joke last night abot him not knowing his right hand from his left.

[Terwilliger]

70. this is because his reading lessons were interrupted

on 9/11, and he hasn't been back since

[Iverson]

89. reportitudinally

His reading compunction was interpellated ... intruded ... intercourse of human events ... oh, I can't rebring it up again once more. Nemmind.

[drscm]

93. Definately dyslexic.... eom

eom

[qanda]

105. "He can't read!"

Some lady on C-SPAN this morning said that * can't read and that he has all of his speeches spoken to him in an earpiece. Him turning the pages the wrong way would definitely bolster her claim. Not sure that I believe it, but I was sure cracking up when she said it.

[gulliver]

114. Saw it. A lot of people must have picked up on it.

Let's hope Letterman or The Daily Show put it on the air. That and the little "touching my money" moves he kept making with his hands...

[UpInArms]

72. talking about sex trafficing???

and how is this supposed to be about getting countries to support us in Iraq???

Who wrote this speech??

Edwin Meese?

[Merlin]

77. He needs all the enemies he can find. He's trying to get applause.

He's a cheerleader, after all. That's what he is. That's all that he is. He needs the opposition of foes, real, exaggerated, or imagined

[Mari333]

80. How DARE he talk about moral law and human dignity!

Hes a war criminal for gods sake...Please UN treat him as such.

mild applause.
Pfffffffffft.
Good riddance.

[Iverson]

86. what, you think he has shame?

Come on! I've read enough of your posts to know that you're smarter than that.

[WesWing2004]

102. he has to compete with Reagan

Maybe he is confused and thinking of Ronnie's evil sex letters? Bejeezuz, this guy needs help staying on topic.

He was definitely medicated.

[Demobrat]

74. Good Grief. He's talking about the sex trade.

And talking. And talking. And talking. This is truly a new low .

[kathee]

75. "Those making profit from their suffering"???

Um, say what?

I heard some harumuphs on that one..

(As he was talking of human trafficking and sex trade)

[Snellius]

78. Is he oddly fascinated by "rape rooms" and "sex slaves"?

He seems more determined to talk himself into believing that he is the good guy, the superhero defender of god, country, and civilization.

[Desertrose]

79. All the $$ the US gives...Iraq is still the highest ticket item

AIDs,famine,slave trade......??
and still the $87+bil additional for Iraq...nothing else comes close...

this man has no shame.....
so I'm ashamed of him for him...

:evilgrin:

Peace
DR

[UpInArms]

81. what the hell??

that was the worst appeal to a specific issue that I have ever witnessed.

5 minutes on the sex trade issue??

[priller]

110. Seeing how his Saudi buddies are probably the biggest "traders"

in that area, he knows where he should focus his energies.

[Barrett808]

sex trade, sex trade, sex trade

wtf?

[lazarus]

82. well

That was the text book definition of "polite applause".

Did anyone else think that was a horribly disjointed and meandering speech that really didn't have any flow at all?

Oh, and MSNBC is whoring badly on the post-speech spin.

[Zero Gravitas]

108. He was supoposed to pause for applause

during the speech. But of course there wan't any. Probably thats the diplomatic equivalent of booing and throwing rotten vegetables at him.

[kathee]

83. STUPID

dumbass speech. Talk about digression!

[Fridays Child]

84. Didn't his brother gather firsthand "intelligence" on the sex slave...

...trade in Thailand?

[SaintLouisBlues]

106. Good one, Mary Pat

n/t

[wiggle-room]

85. " a special evil" in preying on the most vulnerable

he should f**king know -

he's perverted to the extreme the tragedy of 9*11, and drags those victims out like stage props every chance he gets

damn, he just turns my stomach

[0007]

87. Jacques Chriac

will knock junior for a loop, I hope.

[Iverson]

88. That depends ...

... upon whether or not Chirac is awake.

[BattyDem]

90. WTF was that???

Was there any part of that speech that actually had something to do with helping Iraq?

[Snellius]

103. No kidding. What was the point?

Except for getting his face back on the news, there was nothing to any of that. Bush didn't change any position or offer any olive branches or admit any mistakes or offer any solutions.

[PATRICK]

94. He could not have memorized that

Maybe I am ignorant or there is some public prompting device. It was plain he was getting fed the speech yet the notes not only unused but turned asif on cue but backwards. His Oval Office sppeches show the frozen glare aspect that I call "the last scene from O'Neill's 'Long Day's Journey into the Night'. Those show plainly the result of a rather ungifted reader of a video telprompter. I bet he had some acoustic device for this. I can't buy any other explanation for the mechanics of his performance- as bad as the text was in itself. The smirky confidence as of a man who could not lose his text no matter what.

Even then he tired and blew a few words, playing catchup, adding "s" or abbreviating. This may be a kinder explanation for the outer space character of his delivery.

I think this is relevant because even the modest kudos Bush receives for "getting through" a memorized speech is yet another hollow fraud.

[MaineDem]

96. There were teleprompters

One on either side of the podium.

[PATRICK]

100. Thank you. Couldn't see that.

Apparently no one else wants to robotize their delivery with those.

[MaineDem]

95. Did you see him fidgeting with his fingers?

He looked very nervous to me.

[PATRICK]

97. Because his fingers had no coordinated role

All his attention was focussed on the audio prompt and facial expression. When the prompt told him to turn a page he blew it and did not do much else with the useless charade of his papers.

NO ONE else failed to look down at their notes.

[Hogarth]

101. Looked like ...

... he was rolling boogers ambidexterously.

[janx]

107. His hands were shaking. That's why he was trying

to do something with them. Especially his right hand.

He was scared to death.

[Retrograde]

119. Nerves

I used to do something similar, but then I was just an engineer giving an occasional presentation, not an experienced leader and public speaker. He (so far, I'm only part way through the video on the cspan web site) is managing to stand up mostly straight.

BTW, is it me, or does he seem to blend in to the background? a navy suit would have been much better visually.

linda

[gulliver]

115. Looked like the classic hand signal for "money"

Pinching the fingers against the thumb and rubbing...very nervous and pathetic looking.

[truth2power]

117. I just talked to a friend

who said that the finger/thumb movements can be a side effect of Lithium - called "pilling".

Anyone know any more about this?

edit> typo.

[reprobate]

98. How did the UN receive it? Applause? Silence? Boos?

[Snellius]

104. Short, polite applause

During the speech, camera shots of various delegates showed mostly bored reactions, as if, Bush is already history. (The Clark/Bush polls last night may not have helped.)

[Zero Gravitas]

109. Absolute silence during the speech

"polite" applause at the end.

I didn't hear the entire thing (listing to that little weasel is bad for my health) but I get the impression that there was no applause at all during the speech.

[MaineDem]

112. They asked for no "congratulations"

I think that was the word. The President of the General Assembly announced that there was to be no applause...I thought he said after the speech as well but that obviously wasn't the case.

He said this before Lula's speech and it referred to all speeches during the day, not just Georgie's. So I assume the lack of applause during the speech was nothing out of the usual for the UN.

[Zero Gravitas]

113. maybe they said that

to provide a fig leaf for *'s cold shoulder reception?
I don't know how things typically work at the UN. In any case its obvious what the rest of the planet thinks of the Little Emperor and his reckless unilateralism.

[robbedvoter]

99. Chirac now - on C-Span - on multilateralism

He insists on a time table

[dbt]

118. Why did CBS show those video clips during the speech?

Was it to distract from the deafening lack of applause that bu$h's speech was producing?

You know, there are a few disgruntled "serial-protestor" types out there who think that the US media is shamelessly whoring for bu$h.

Why did CBS think it was necessary to show those clips if they're not biased?

:evilgrin:
dbt

(Damn that Librul Media!)