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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:29 PM
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BLACKBOXVOTING.ORG SHUT DOWN
IT SAYS IT ALL...
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:31 PM
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1. Well, this says it all:
NOTICE
Due to a dispute with Diebold, Incorporated, and its wholly owned subsidiary Diebold Election Systems, Inc. (collectively "Diebold"), which is claiming links to certain materials that do not reside on the blackboxvoting.org website constitute copyright infringement, blackboxvoting.org has been temporarily disabled.

We regret any inconvenience this may cause visitors and journalists to the blackboxvoting.org site and hope to have this matter resolved shortly.

In the interim, send questions or information requests to admin@blackboxvoting.org.

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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:32 PM
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3. Bev Harris, what's the deal?
Is this about Diebold's attempt to copyright a link?
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:39 PM
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7. Copyright
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 09:44 PM by creativelcro
Just before it shut down they showed the letter Diebold had sent saying precisely that (that the link to the memos located elsewhere constituted copyright infringement). They must have talked to a lawyer who advised them to take that step. It must be... -CV
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:55 PM
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18. Linking is not copyright infringement
Damn, I thought sure her ISP wouldn't fold under this. Linking to other web sites has already been fought in court and it's legal. The only time it isn't legal is when a site makes money by creating a sort of duplicate site with all the links from the other site. Like you couldn't make a site called Oregon news and then simply link to all Oregonian news releases. That is copyright infringement. Bev linking to Diebold is perfectly legal from everything I've ever read on the topic.

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,35306,00.html
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:31 PM
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2. by whom?
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VTMechEngr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:33 PM
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4. Don't give in!!!
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 09:41 PM by VTMechEngr
But I noticed that the other site still works for me. http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
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belab13 Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:36 PM
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5. this ain't gonna make the problem go away for Diebold.
eom
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:37 PM
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6. The Google cache link still works okeedokee
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 09:38 PM by NNN0LHI
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:40 PM
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8. Yeah, well when they shut down Google cache
call for the cavalry!
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:43 PM
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9. thanks Diebold
You're the runner up in the Faux News/Bill O'Lielly Stupid Sweepstakes. Maybe you can do for blackbox what O'Lielly did for Al Franken, author of Lying Liars and the Lies they Tell, currently at the top of the NY Times Bestseller list.

More wood for the fire!

Make the pie higher! Higher!


Cher



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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:45 PM
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10. I really feel for Bev this means they confiscated her work
I hope she had back up somewhere!

This is a War! And Diebold! :bounce:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:47 PM
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11. can't this info...
...be posted offshore somewhere?
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:51 PM
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13. offshore..
IT WAS OFFSHORE!!! There was a site in Italy that got killed somehow. Then they switched to another site (not sure if that is still up since I cannot download the stuff anyway; slow modem).
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:49 PM
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12. I don't think so...
From what she was saying, all the stuff is in the hands of several hundred individuals around the world, including higher-ups at various media outlets and Congress...
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:52 PM
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14. You hope Bev has A back up somewhere?
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 09:54 PM by NNN0LHI
Even with what little bit I know about Bev, I would not even be worrying about such a thing. I would guess that there are multiple copies of all this information in many different peoples possession. Just a guess though.

Don

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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:53 PM
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16. search ALL 14,235 memos that got her site yanked here...
http://new.globalfreepress.com/mnogosearch/search.cgi

thank GORE he invented the internet :evilgrin:

psst... pass the word :bounce:

peace
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:53 PM
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15. dupe
Edited on Tue Sep-23-03 10:39 PM by TahitiNut
This 'event' isn't LBN, and it's already under discussion in General Discussion forum (link below). Locking.
(Sorry, slow tonite.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=393043
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-03 09:55 PM
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17. hope it's up soon-here are other Deibold links
The word is out on several other sites as well.
We need to make sure that this info is NOT silenced by election rigging greedy repuke corporate bastards.

http://www.smashthetrifecta.com/

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/index.asp





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