Drudge: 'SHE HAS BEEN UNDER COVER FOR THREE DECADES'

[RamboLiberal]

http://www.drudgereport.com/matt.htm

A former counter-terrorism official at the CIA and the State Department claimed Tuesday night that outted CIA agent "Valerie Plame" was under cover for three decades and was not a "CIA analyst" as columnist Bob Novak has suggested.

Larry Johnson made the charge on PBS's NEWSHOUR.

"I worked with this woman. She started training with me. She has been under cover for three decades. She is not as Bob Novak suggested a "CIA analyst." Given that, i was a CIA analyst for 4 years. I was under cover. I could not divulge to my family outside of my wife that I worked for the CIA unti I left the Intelligence Agency on Sept. 30, 1989. At that point I could admit it. The fact that she was under cover for three decades and that has been divulged is outrageous. She was put undercover for certain reasons. One, she works in an area where people she works with overseas could be compromised...

"For these journalists to argue that this is no big deal... and if I hear another Republican operative suggesting that, well, this was just an analyst. Fine. Let them go undercover. Let's put them go overseas. Let's out them and see how they like it...

"I say this as a registered Republican. I am on record giving contributions to the George Bush campaign.

[The Night Owl]

1. Let us start a list of all the media figures who called Plame an analyst.

Larry Johnson's statements about Plame leave me speechless.

:wow:

[jenk]

13. Hannity, Limbaugh, Brit Hume, Shep Smith etc etc

.

[leftchick]

40. nachman...

does he count as a "journalist"? :eyes:

[Ediacara]

2. uh-oh

[Cha]

3. This looks Huge! Like cia blood is thicker than repugnant water.

[hlthe2b]

6. I saw that segment on PBS

This guy is the real deal. The fact that he is admittedly Repug, but is speaking his disgust so vocally is really telling!

[caledesi]

8. I saw him too. It was so obvious as how utterly disgusted this

man was. <and embarrassed to be a Republican>

[0007]

47. I watched also and agreed with your feelings

*

[Oilwellian]

15. Do you suppose....

he was handpicked by the CIA to go on PBS BECAUSE he's a republican?? :D

[Occulus]

28. Heheh

that's the kind of slippery stuff I expect from the CIA :D

[kainah]

20. I also saw it

He was totally irate and unwilling to allow anyone to spin the sheer criminal mendacity behind what was done. It was a very, very damning segment.

[Best_man23]

43. There is an old saying around CIA

You "never" leave the Company.

[GinaMaria]

51. I imagine

given the intensity of the work in the CIA, that they are much like other professions with a brotherhood or sisterhood, police, nurses, etc. This saying or motto makes sense. I keep wondering how this sits with Poppy bush?

[JPace]

4. 30 Years!

Good grief that is a very long time. If this is
true the harm that has been done from her disclosure
is staggering. Surely people will be made accountable
for this truely "EVIL" deed!

[LearnedHand]

7. See Will Pitt's article ("Most Insidious of Traitors") about her work...

...on truthout.org:

http://truthout.org/docs_03/093003A.shtml

[Dhalgren]

46. Ass-kicking article by Will!

.

[RamboLiberal]

9. Well it can't be quite 30 years unless she was a 10 yr old CIA agent

Another article says she's 40. Maybe Johnson meant part of 2 decades and 1 whole decade. Like started sometime in the 80's.

[InkAddict]

38. Jinx, we had the same "what's wrong with the numbers?" n/t

[Orangepeel]

45. would a CIA agent tell you her real age?

:-)

This is a terrible thing. I really hope that somebody goes to jail.

[FlashHarry]

5. Glad to see drudge is staying 'fair and balanced.'

Did you see his pic of Arnold with the link/cutline "The Home Stretch?" Nice one, Sludge. And silly me, I thought the recall election was next week.

[MoonAndSun]

10. This is starting to get ugly for the repukes and bush*

what will the repuke pundits do now?

[jenk]

14. 2 words.........Clintons Penis

.

[femmecahors]

25. I don't think that line works any more . . .

From what I can tell, people all over the world are nostalgic for the days when Clinton's Penis ran the White House. This current crop of dicks is really fucking up the world.

[damnraddem]

11. Three decades undercover, blown as a petty political ploy.

Dubya's gang of thugs continues to smash America's resources into pieces. Better a bull in a china shop than a Dubya in the White House.

[Spider Jerusalem]

12. Why the hell can't anyone seem to spell "outed" properly?

Even people who should know get it wrong. Some things irritate me way more than they ought to, and this is one of them.

[Occulus]

29. it's not 'tham'

it's them.

:D

[Spider Jerusalem]

31. Damn typos...

one of these days I'll learn to type properly. (But...typos are the only reason I make spelling errors, and it happens rarely. This was taken as-is from Drudge's site...and you'd think after David Brock's book he'd be able to spell "outed" properly...)

[Ramsey]

16. Not to be too contrary

But Valerie Plame is reported to be 40 years old, so if she's been undercover for three decades, she started pretty damn young!

From the WP expose on Wilson:
"As the world now knows, Wilson is married to Valerie Wilson, nee Plame. She is his third wife. She is 40, slim, blonde and the mother of their 3-year-old twins. In the photos in his office, she has the looks of a film star."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25492-2003Sep30.html

[jenk]

18. not true

that might mean she was in the CIA from 89-01, spanning 3 decades, 80's, 90's, and the millenium.

[kainah]

22. and that is exactly what this guy was saying

He was in the training classes with her -- where they didn't even reveal their names, just last initials, Larry J -- and he started his work in the '80s.

Listen to the RealAudio link below and there will be NO DOUBT in your mind about the veracity of this guy.

[Ramsey]

24. What's not true?

That she is 40 years old? That's according to the article interviewing her husband. If her tenure included the exact years of 1989 to 2003, then she started undercover work at age 25, which is certainly possible, and worked undercover for 12-14 years, which isn't over 30 years as implied, but is perhaps technically spanning "3 decades". Regardless, it doesn't make any comment I said or quoted "not true". My point was that the statement "3 decades" implies that she has been undercover for at least 30 years, when in fact she probably has been doing so for about half that time at most. It doesn't matter one whit in the substance of the story, I am just pointing this out for accuracy sake.

[treepig]

50. why not just say she's been under cover for two millennia

which is technically accurate, and be done with it?

[JanMichael]

48. Bingo. He didn't say 30 years.

My step dad has four decades in local government, yet he's only 56, did he start when he was 16?

Noooooo.

[DulceDecorum]

32. Beat me to it

I guess it must be true about women not lying about their age.

[Stupdworld]

17. Looking very suspect from here

how can we exactly be sure what her position is in the cia? are we allowed to announce that she is a "secret agent" or something?
if you get enough circumstantial evidence, hearsay, etc you can definintely pour gas on the grill, but what will be the match to prove it?

[Kool Kitty]

35. The memo that was circulated to the White House staff said

that she was an undercover agent.

[joshcryer]

19. Listen to the real audio, it really drives the emotion home.

He's not a happy camper about the whole "just an analyst" rhetoric.

http://audio.pbs.org:8080/ramgen/newshour/expansion/2003/09/30/ts.rm?altplay=ts.rm

[Zhade]

21. Had a thought (hah! see, it happens sometimes!)

Congress should tie a demand for an independent investigation into TraitorGate to the very first penny of the $87 billion Herr Chimp has requested.

After all, this is connected - the money is allegedly for Iraq, which needs to be rebuilt after BushCo illegally invaded that country based on lies, one of which was the Niger "yellow cake" hoax, which of course led us to where we are today.

You want any more money, motherfuckers, then you pay the piper and hand over the political sniper. Word.

[Emillereid]

23. Rule one in Washington - Don't make the spooks mad!

Between trying to lay the faulty intelligence on the CIA for the Iraq war, Cheney's visits and now this -- I'd say the Bushits have crossed the rubicon.

[chookie]

26. Memory Lane: an event in Poppy's presidency

Anyone remember this: Richard Nixon was extremely concerned about the struggles Russia was going through after the fall of the Soviet Union. He raised the issue that it was critical to help, and that it was likely that impoverished scientists and military would be tempted to sell WMDs to terrorists. He wrote an open letter to Poppy Bush, and had it published in Time. He criticized Poppy for his lack of initiative at this important juncture of history, and warned it could have repercussions for decades.

Plame would have been operating during Poppy's adminstration.

I wonder if, like her husband, she was finding things that smirky and Darth Cheney did not want her to find, or else was not telling them what they wanted to hear. Might be another motive to end her career and compromise all her work and contacts.

[bucknaked]

27. I love it when they go off on something they know nothing about...

Rush and the others going off about how "she's just an analyst..." so all-of-the-sudden, of course, they're all experts on CIA policy and laws pertaining to national security.

This is what I love about the right's obsession with liberal celebrities, and their assertion that they should just "Shut up!" since they "...don't know dick about anything but acting/singing." Now here, we have Limbaugh going on about something he obviously knows nothing about, making an ass of himself while basking in his own ignorance yet... that's fine! Sheesh!

C'mon, there must be a few "seminar callers" ( :eyes: ) here, on DU. Hope one of them gets on and causes him to loose it again (when one gets past his screeners, it almost makes him worth listening to).

[SoCalDem]

41. Rush .......going off about how "she's just an analyst

anal(c)yst...no wonder he got confused :eyes: :evilgrin:..Poor RUSH

[TacticalPeek]

56. LOL!

:silly:

[JackSwift]

30. CIA does full court press

they are going to avenge the rat-fucking of one of their own by showing Rove and Bush what rat-fucking is about in the major leagues. Rove is going to need so serious analgesics. And then he is going to prison.

[hail to the thief]

33. This Larry Johnson Guy is great

I'm listening to the audio of Newshour now as I had missed it last night. This guy is pissed off! you can clearly hear the emotion in his voice, I can only imagine how he must of looked like on tv. Man we need a little bit (actually alot of bit) of this guy's fire on the left. The fact that he's a Republican and he's saying all this is great. Not everything should be politicized, wrong is wrong. Herr Rove should roast.

[lebkuchen]

34. CNNI has been quoting Novak himself as calling her an 'operative'

from the start.

I know he's just trying to muddy up the issue for his readers to cover his sorry butt. However, his use of the word "operative" is already out there on CNNI, using Novak's own writing, in quotes. He knew Palme was a spy, and he probably knew she was a career spy.

Novak is a traitor to our country. Blaming this on partisan politics only helps him to dig his hole deeper. It's hard to believe this guy has received so much media exposure over so many years.

Why doesn't he spend the remainder of his shortened "journalistic" career outing Cheney? At least he'd be doing a service to the country rather than sticking a knife into its national security.

As I've said to many of my friends, the rightwing whackos are the meanest, most unpatriotic people you could ever hope to meet.

[Justice]

36. Twisted Logic

Tonight I heard over and over from Republicans that the Justice Department career people were completely competent to handle this. The kept saying "alleged" before everything - the operative, the white house leaker, etc. I was angry that the questions on cable were focused on whether the democrats are playing politics - we want an independent investigator now, but didn't want one for Clinton - double standard....


No one made my point, which is this -

Wilson says he believes the outing was done primarily not to hurt him/his wife but rather to stop others (I assume CIA) from questioning/coming forward/speaking out. Okay, motive is to chill dissent.

So now we are to believe that a poor career Justice department lawyer with a spouse and children to feed at home will be courageous enough to investigate this and stand up to the likes of the republican party, the bush administration and the conservative media? Right.

That is why an independent prosecutor is needed.

[Nottingham]

37. Great Article!

:bounce: Its so funny to watch the Republicans!

[tlb]

39. Anyone else amused how a DRUDGE link is cheered now ?

Is Drudge forgiven now that he is pushing a story critical of Bush, or will it be back to business as usual the next time he runs something unflattering to a democrat ?

Myself I am from the "don't shoot the messenger" school. I always found it tiresome wading through dozens of posts damning Drudge as a republican lackey in any thread involving one of his links, and few if any posts at all discussing, confirming or disproving his story.

If you recall he hit the DUI story hard before the 2000 election too.

[R Hickey]

42. Drudge Grudge?

OK, Drudge gets my grudging admiration, this time...and I like his hat, too.

[BloodyWilliam]

44. Drudge is like a blind ninja.

He doesn't always hit the mark with his shuriken, but he knows how to throw.

As a journalist I think he's a right-leaning schmuck who's waaaaay too fast on the trigger to have any credibility, but that said he has been more active in scoop-hunting than anyone in the mainstream media. And whether or not we like what happened to Clinton, he is the man who broke the story.

On EDIT: BloodyWilliam, master of the crappy analogy. :hippie:

[robbedvoter]

49. Novak's column in todays Post lies again: Wilson contributed to Gore

In fact as someone posted here:


 On CNBC Capitol Report they just pushed Wilson on the $1000 Kerry
donation
and he came back with, 'No, it was $2000, in two $1000 payments'; then
he went on to say that what Ed Gillespie also knew but didn't tell
anybody, was that Wilson also donated $2000 to Bush/Cheney in 2000! But
that he would not be supporting aWol this time because of their war and
peace blunder!"
Which is significant, in light of the facr that he insists "that's what prompted him to figure out why was he chosen for the mission"
Good research, Nofacts!

[bobthedrummer]

52. That's a huge social network then

three decades worth of spookery blown. Code RED.

[ignatius]

53. Hot damn, the media whores are finally being

exposed. Rush..you reading this,asshole?

Treason IS a big deal!!!!

[Barrett808]

54. "The CIA is hanging tough. They want blood" says anonymous admin official

...

The CIA "is hanging tough. They want blood," said an administration official speaking on the condition of anonymity.

By week's end, this official predicted, the White House will have identified and fired the offending individual to limit political damage.

(more)

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1001leakanalysis.html

[bobthedrummer]

55. Open season on Rove!

Jolly-doubleplusgood!
This could blossom.

[TacticalPeek]

57. "week's end"

This coming Friday's late evening data dump will be verrrry interestink.

[tlcandie]

58. I would be ecstatic if Rove or someone was ousted, BUT I have

to believe that the WHorehouse and Repugs not wanting a special investigation only means one thing.

Someone (maybe several people) will go down for this, BUT it will only be puppets not puppeteers(sp?).

I want to have faith in Wilson as he seems one smart cookie and has kept the info pretty close to the chest, but knowing these slimballs and how they do biz...I believe they will hand over peeps who will not affect this admin one way or the other.

More pawns thrown to the press, not the players. Let's hope my feelings are 100% inaccurate!