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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 03:23 AM
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Leak probe 1st scandal of Bush administration
By G. ROBERT HILLMAN
and MICHELLE MITTELSTADT
The Dallas Morning News

WASHINGTON -- The scene at the White House on Tuesday was all too familiar -- reporters running through the hallways, frantic cell phone calls, urgent updates on the news wires and breaking news on the cable TV networks.

<snip>

Some in the White House have suggested that the CIA may be fueling the Wilson controversy to divert media attention from congressional inquiries into its Iraq intelligence.

But Pike of GlobalSecurity.org suggested the White House may want to tread lightly with the CIA and its director, George Tenet, a holdover from the Clinton administration.

"You just don't mess with them." Pike said. "They are in the business of overthrowing governments outside the United States, and they do not check those skills with the Customs Service when they come home."

The CIA declined to comment.

http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?id=1&display=rednews/2003/10/01/build/nation/48-probe.inc
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 03:35 AM
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1. First Scandal?? Maybe the first one to get any attention
Shall we list them?
-stealing the election
- voters removed from roles
- 'fake' voter riot
- FL Sec of State who made key decisions head of Bush campaign in FL

-9/11
- Bush/bin Laden ties
- stand down orders
- Aug 4th briefing

-Iraq
- falsification of WMD evidence
- Media pressuring

etc, etc,etc

feel free to add to the list
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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 03:41 AM
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4. ....


Harkin
Enron
AWOL

requesting CIA back off bin Laden family
allowing bin Laden family to return to Saudi

using 9-11 for political/campaign

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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 06:59 AM
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15. Secret energy meetings.
I think if a REAL investigation were launched we'd find these are ALL related. Lets also not forget the biggest of all, the electronic "voting" machines made by American Taliban companies.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:22 AM
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21. The Bogus Energy Policy Meetings
--Harvey Pitt
--Yuccagate
--Campaign Contributors At the Controls of a Navy Sub Sinking a Japanese Fishing Boat
--Apologizing to the Chinese When they Knocked Down Our Spy Plane
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BQueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 03:49 AM
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5. My thoughts exactly
I remember reading a snip from a Brit paper posted here that referred to it as the "worst", but I would modify to reflect that it's not necessarily the worst, but it's had the worst effect on the WH (so far)
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R Hickey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 04:02 AM
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8. The surge in A. Airlines 'put' trades the week before 9/11
1) The investigation was quietly closed by the FBI last week, even though anybody who looked at the evidence objectivly could see that there way a huge trading spike, yet it's now discribed as 'nothing' by the FBI report. Nothing, my ass. At least the Germans are scratching their heads, they've seen this stuff before, with the NAZI's.

2) Then there was the debate tape scandal, where Rove's office sent an underling to the post-office to mail fake debate tapes to a Democratic congressman. Rove was trying to create a fake scandal, but of course the Bush-friendly news media did'nt report that.It was all caught on the Post Office survaliance camera, but was later quietly swept under the rug.

3) Then there was the Taiwan bribery scandal, surpressed by the media. Milllions went directly from Taiwan's secret bribery machine, into the Republican Party.

Really, the list is endless.

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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 04:41 AM
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10. I couldn't stop laughing reading this subject line!
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Rebel_with_a_cause Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:39 AM
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23. Exactly
....though, I'm hoping * doesn't get caught in bed w/anyone other than his wife and then deny it because the adultery would completely eclipse, in the media's mind, the outing issue, which is of national security importance.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 03:38 AM
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2. This snippet from your article just kills me!
(snip) The media largely ignored the Novak revelation, despite Wilson's oft-repeated claims that the White House was meting out punishment for the criticisms that he had stirred over the quality of intelligence used to go to war. But his charges gained new steam last week, with word that the CIA had requested an investigation.(snip)

Is there even ONE journalist who even CONSIDERED looking into this before it got dumped into their laps?

If they had done their job, we'd already be so much farther ahead. We can only hope that the delay will hurt Bush in his bid for his first elected term as President.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 07:11 AM
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16. This is the line that got my attention...
"You just don't mess with them." Pike said. "They are in the business of overthrowing governments outside the United States, and they do not check those skills with the Customs Service when they come home."

If JFK and Nixon were alive, I bet they would have some input on that, don't you think?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 03:38 AM
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3. it is now official
it is now a scandal...

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 03:59 AM
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6. Almost All Since 1/20/01...
Reading the string the thought hit me that almost all the scandals listed above have occured since manchild stole office. In comparison, of the major Clinton stuff, Whitewater (which had the longest legs) was a decade earlier, Travelgate was in the first months as was Filegate (and don't those seem real bogus compared to the shit going on now?). The only "fresh" one after 6 years of non-stop GOOP hounding was a Blue Gap Dress.

The only thing with this scandal is this isn't "sexy" enough for the media. A perfect example of how the media machine works was O.J. Here you had various taboos...sex, interacial sex, murder, celebrity, money, Hollywood and so on that really fed the frenzy. There isn't any of that "fizz" in this scandal (despite its real legal possibilities) that is gonna make Joe Sixpack or Sally Soccermom talk about it at the health club or bar. When that happens, then this regime is in real deep trouble.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 04:01 AM
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7. Nice, subtle
blaming of Clinton, there. As if Tenet being a "holdover from the Clinton administration" might somehow invalidate the whole thing.
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 04:10 AM
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9. But Who Chose To Keep Him? Bush That's Who.
Buyer beware. This is a really lame straw man attack on Clinton. Typical for "the grown ups in the WH." They suck, always have, always will. Now it's time for them to PAY for their evil greed/blood lust.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:21 AM
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11. Translation: 1st we can't pin on Clinton (entirely)
On Financial Times I was glad to see Ken Lay's mug - sharing the headlines with traitorgate (it seems he's not completely in the clear).
Just because the press burried the Carlyle/bin Laden, Harken,Florida, Funeralgate, Bunkergate, Yellowcakegate, Dieboldgate etc - it don't mean that this is the 1st.
Anyway, for your satisfaction: visit MWO: Tweety got the RNC chairman, Gillespie to say "This is bigger than Watergate!"
Mazel Tov!
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 05:24 AM
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12. 1st Scandal?
I didn't read past that first part - screw these media Bush ass kissers!
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:33 AM
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22. Saying this is the first scandal
is like saying the Battle of the Bulge was the first battle of World War II.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 06:33 AM
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13. A good point made:
On one side we have the CIA who has the evil reputation of over-throwing foreign governments and on the other, we have the Bush Administration who has the evil reputation of overthrowing domestic AND foreign governments.

Which brings up the question, "Where are all the good guys in all this?"; and, "has America become the evil empire?"
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 06:44 AM
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14. Whenever one of the sides is W, the other is the good guy, hands down!
Besides, ON THE WAR, CIA were the ones who found the truth and protested repeatedly to the falsification (I have articles before the war on that)
Also, they seem to be the good guys in the 9.11 SNAFU as well (as in - they told, nobody listened).
To be clear: if it's bushco vs Satan, Satan is the good guy.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 07:42 AM
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17. The difference is
one is competent in its job, the other is not.

You decide which will come out on top when it gets nasty (we've seen but the opening round).
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 08:04 AM
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18. It's interesting that the Billings Gazette heavily edited this story.
This is a byline story copyrighted by the Dallas Morning News, yet it was edited by the Billings Gasette (for their own political purposes?).

The DMN story ends with:
The CIA declined to comment.

"It's a hot political potato," explained an agency official, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

And at the White House, Mr. McClellan had little to say as well.

"I'm not going to speculate about any motives, period," he said.
http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/100103dnnatcialeak.e9ab.html

FWIW, the headline is significantly different as well. In the Dallas Morning News, it's "CIA leak means White House headache" - gee, I wonder why? :eyes:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 08:36 AM
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19. the Dallas Whoring News?
yup, whoring is their business
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 08:49 AM
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20. First probe? Yes. First Scandal? Hardly.
The first scandal took place after the 2000 election.


rocknation
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:43 AM
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24. The Biggest Scandal is going to War on Lies of WMD
and this is what THIS scandal is all about! :bounce:
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et in Arcadia ego... Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:56 AM
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25. Yes, the Cheney/Rove Administration is in
deep-doody. Wake up America and throw these bums out.
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