Bush adviser Hughes says leak disrupts democracy

[Khephra]

By CLAY ROBISON

Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle Austin Bureau

AUSTIN -- Karen Hughes, one of President Bush's longest-serving and closest advisers, said Wednesday that the public disclosure of a CIA operative's name was a disservice to the president and "very disruptive to democracy."

Hughes said she was confident that her fellow Texan and sometime rival, Karl Rove, the president's chief political adviser, didn't leak the name to a syndicated columnist because "Karl has said that he was not involved."

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"President Bush has said -- and I agree -- there are too many leaks in Washington. We didn't experience that kind of situation when we were here in Texas. I think it's very disruptive to democracy," Hughes said.

"Whoever did this leak obviously was not serving President Bush very well," she added.

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http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/2132208

[Cha]

1. Boo Freakin' Hoo! & bushit, too!

they wouldn't know Democracy if it bit them in their colletive asses.
:kick:

[Guaranteed]

2. She knows he didn't do it himself, at least.

Because she knows Scooter Libby did it. Rove gave the whole thing the OK (along with Hughes and others in the WHIG group), but he didn't actually make the call.

[TXDemGal]

3. Spin, spin, spin

It's really rich that a water carrier for Bush* would say the leak disrupts democracy. These fuckers wouldn't know democracy if it bit them in their rosy red asses. Not only that, but they're spinning as if the issue is the "leak" rather than about the fact that the traitor(s) broke federal law and put an agent and her sources in danger.

These people make me ill.

[central scrutinizer]

4. probably also disruptive

to Valerie Plame's network of informants and their families - some of them are probably be tortured right now for being informants.

[goforit]

5. Certainly she meant to say the "Leak disrupts their Tyrranny"

Friggin Fascist!!!

[drscm]

6. Poor Bushies...Asking for the truth is disruptive to their monarchy. eom

eom

[Cocoa]

7. getting caught didn't serve Bush well

or making the mistake of picking on a guy that stood up to him didn't serve Bush well.

If they got away with it, it would have exactly served Bush just the way Rove intended it to.

[lebkuchen]

8. Outing CIA agents undermines our national security, post 9-11

and it's against federal law. What about the rule of law, Karen? Remember that?

[bpilgrim]

9. thats RIGHT - AND puts ALL AMERICANS AT RISK! HANG'EM HIGH!

:evilgrin:

peace

[sonias]

10. Karen thinks Karl did it

Karen and Karl don't get along very well and I'm sure she won't be too disappointed if he takes the hit. I'm reading more in between the lines.

(snip)
"Whoever did this leak obviously was not serving President Bush very well," she added.
(/snip)
Get the hint Karl, stand aside for the good of the bu$h presidency is what I think she is saying.

Of course she has to say she doesn't think the little bastard did it.
(snip)
"Karl has said that he was not involved."
(/snip)

Yeah the whole "disruptive to democracy" whine coming from one of the 2000 coup leaders is not very believable. Sure the bushies believe in democracy, if they control it.

Sonia

[shance]

11. Excuse me...SHES WORRIED SOMEONES NOT SERVING BUSH WELL????

Why doesnt Ms. Hughes pull her head out and look at WHO ELSE THIS DIDNT SERVE WELL. Namely the Wilson family and Americans AT LARGE.

That is one of the sickest, most demented statements I have yet to hear.

[colorado_ufo]

24. Notice that this is the sentiment over and over?

"Serving Bush well" - Every statement is firmly entrenched with this attitude. Whatever happened to serving our COUNTRY? With serving the PEOPLE?

If you look even casually at their statements - on any matter - you would think that they are serving a monarchy. I expect any day now that * will decline to be addressed as "Mr. President" and will instead demand to be addressed as "America."

[Old and In the Way]

25. Life would be easier if he was dictator.

Then he wouldn't have to resort to smearing people...he culd order them held in a prison, just like all those RW dictators used to do to the opposition in South America...the ones Poppy helped to destroy Democracy.

[calimary]

31. I think you're seeing another coordinated talking point at work.

I've noticed NUMEROUS bush apologists and other assorted repukes very deftly commenting about how this has "dragged the president into..." or "doesn't serve the president very well" or some such wording, to put bush in the PASSIVE MODE rather than active. This is a subtle technique for planting the impression that bush was separate from this and it's being done TO him, not BY him or with his knowledge or authorization.

If the repukes learned anything from Watergate (and I'm betting they did), it's to build up better and stronger plausible deniability. Note also, she says things to suggest that KKKarl says he didn't do it and to lend the impression that it was somebody else. Another post her caught that inference, too - that suggests if KKKarl didn't do it PERSONALLY, he engineered it for others to do, so he could CLAIM he didn't do it.

Even so, it still has his fingerprints all over it. It's the kind of mean-spirited, shitty thing he's known for, and has been known for, for a LONG time, and he HAS, in the past, used Robert Novak as his tidbit drop. There's a pattern here that's just a little too obvious. Sorry Karen. Try again.

[fizzana]

12. They disrupt Democracy every waking minute.

n/t

[opihimoimoi]

14. UUUUU the poor things, just had to resort to getting KAREN to say

a few words to defend the Shrub.

She knows, Rove knows, Bush knows, they all know.

But the stonewall is cracking.... and they know that too.

[calimary]

32. Now's the time to CALL YOUR CONGRESS-CRITTER!

The TOLL FREE CAPITOL HILL SWITCHBOARD NUMBERS:

1 (800) 839 - 5276

1 (800) 648 - 3516

Call 'em up, first thing in the morning, and they'll switch you to anybody's office you name.

Also: www.congress.org - for the directory to anybody's office, either on the Hill OR locally, phone numbers, AND FAX numbers.

Also: for good measure:

CNN: 1 (404) 827 - 1500

THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE REMINDED THAT THIS IS MORE THAN JUST A LEAK. WE'RE TALKING POTENTIAL TREASON!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's call it what it is. If this were in the Clinton White House, THEY certainly would.

[E_Zapata]

22. What democracy?

n/t

[Doug Decker]

13. I thought Karen went to Texas to be with her son...

and husband. Wasn't there a big "Repuke Values" send off for her?

[kskiska]

41. She left only for a week or so

then it was announced (but barely covered) that she was coming back, working at the White House every other week, but maintaining her home in Texas. She hasn't gone anywhere. She writes his speeches, gives him massages, and right now is accompanying the missus in Europe.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

15. Memo to Karen: The Bush administration is disruptive to democracy

To ant lurking CIA agenst...please take this line and RUN WITH IT!!!


Look out...they wanna move the White House to Texas

[dArKeR]

16. Murdering innocent people and having your soldiers die for a lie or for

oil. What does that do to Democracy? And what does every country in the world knows this and dislikes the US for it. What does that do for world democracy and the US setting an example for the world?

[w4rma]

17. Disservice to the King. That's what I hear when these people say president

Because they treat this guy like he was our King. King George. Republicans long for the days of a king to bow down to, I think. These guys are the political decendents of the Tories and Royalists who opposed the patriots during our Revolutionary War.

[jus_the_facts]

18. ...but....but....but....it's gonna disrupt the PNAC's agenda.......

....isn't that what you meant to say Karen. :puke:

[juajen]

19. This is getting interesting!

I just heard Larry Johnson (I believe that's his name) say it was Scooter Libbey. He was the former CIA operative who was on PBS loudly putting down this administration for its outing of Plame. This was another appearance on Press & Buchanan on MSNBC.

Looks like the fall guy or guys will be Cheney and Libbey. Since it has been said on here that Cheney will go down and be taken off the ticket, this seems mighty convenient. I'm a tad suspicious. I'd rather it was Rove. Don't understand, unless it was both Rove and Libbey, since Wilson has outed Rove.

[whirlygigspin]

20. who cares

what Karen "Lewinski" Hughes says.

[colorado_ufo]

26. I thought Johnson had put the finger on Rove

previously?

[E_Zapata]

21. How the hell can she say who didn't do it, unless she knows who did?

And, if so, why not spill it, Karen? Save democracy you ass sucking witch - and let us know who it was and we can move on the business of having our elections stolen. ahhh, the good old days of democracy in the usa.

I absolutely hate these fuckers tonight. More than I do normally.

[cliss]

23. "We didn't experience that kind of situation in Texas".

...hmmmm I wonder why not? Maybe Ole Bush would "take care of them", like he promised to do with the senior blabbers in the White House.

"Texas style?"

[0007]

27. Who's next on the agenda?

James Baker or Henry Kissinger or daddy pooper?

[leetrisck]

28. "A disservice to the president" -

Is getting people killed a "disservice to the president?" This is treason - to hell with the Slim Shrub in "our house"

[tom_paine]

29. Lies and the Lying Liars That Tell Them

You know, I'll bet if you'd asked Eichmann whether he was heading a industrial Jew-murdering operation, he'd have said "no", too.

Which, of course, means he didn't do it.

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

30. So, a known liar is vouching for the truthfulness of another liar while...

...serving the interests of the Liar-in-Chief.

[kodi]

33. there's "man's" law & that other kind which inconveniences us occasionally

also called God's or Natural Law.

i wonder what hughes take is on the Pentagon Papers.

[snippy]

34. What an arrogant and delusional statement.

Providing the public with information is "very disruptive to democracy."

These people are mad. Angry too.

[Cat Atomic]

35. Why does the media start pointing at administration officials?

Bush is the President. I don't care whether it was Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rice, or whoever- Bush is the President, and he's accountable for the actions taken by his administration.

Isn't it strange that Bush, like Reagan, is just assumed to be an incompetent boob with no real involvement in anything? Allowing staff to commit crimes... hiring traitorous criminals to do this sort of vindictive work... that's just as bad as doing it yourself.

[scipan]

36. leak, leak, leak

Change the terms of the issue and you change the way people perceive the issue. The repukes are so good at this.

I will never use the word "leak" for this -- someone in the WH OUTED A CIA AGENT.

[ByeDick]

37. DICK CHENEY Is The Leak **BREAKING NEWS**

Regarding the Wilson intelligence scandal:

We need to realize that EVERYTHING Bush, Novak, and McClellan are SAYING is absolutely true. But everything they're TELLING US is a lie. We have to remember to listen carefully to the exact words.

Novak originally said that the information about Wilson's wife came from, "two senior administration officials." THIS IS TRUE.

Novak also says that, "Nobody in the Bush administration called me to leak this." THIS IS ALSO TRUE.

There is ONE MAN in the world who is BOTH a senior administration official, and does not release information from the administration (from the White House).

There is ONE MAN in the world who invested his reputation and resources to the Niger yellowcake story, more than any other.

There was ONE MAN in the world who knew of Wilson's trip to Niger as well as he knew about the identity of Wilson's wife.

THE MAN'S NAME IS **DICK CHENEY**.

The yellowcake story was Cheney's baby.

Joseph Wilson killed Dick Cheney's baby.

So, when Scott McClellan talks about how "ridiculous" it is that the leak could have come out of Karl Rove, it's because he knows this statement to be true. Rove IS NOT the one who ORIGINALLY released this information. There is no way this could have been the case because there's really no scenario that would explain how Rove could legitimately be in possession of this information. But Rove is a part of the conspiracy, all the same.

The plan was for Cheney & Novak to make the info about Wilson's wife "common knowledge around Washington." That was the first wave of the attack. The second wave was initiated when Cheney told Rove that he (Cheney or his office) had put Wilson's wife's identity in print, and that she, and her identity, were now, "FAIR GAME." The rest was left to Rove. Rove, or people working with Rove, then made the FAIR GAME phone calls to the media, knowing that Cheney & Novak had laid the groundwork to cover their asses (legally) by making the secret information, "common knowledge around Washington."

The White House is trying to convince us that the Novak disclosure and the "FAIR GAME" phone calls were taking place as one continuous event, but they were not. The Novak crimes (disclosures) were designed to set up the FAIR GAME phone calls from Rove. This was a two-point plan. Novak is working with the White House on this. He is knowingly trying to mislead any would-be investigations and may eventually go down for this obvious obstruction (at least).

Scott McClellan completed the second wave on Wednesday. When asked to make a distinction between disclosing the identity of a covert CIA operative and discussing it after it is published, McClellan said, ""That is such a broad question, about is it OK to discuss news articles," he said. "I mean, news articles are discussed all the time."

So, is there one top-level White House official whose email, phone records, etc. ARE NOT being protected by orders of the Justice Department? Is their one top-level White House official who does not work in the White House and whose staff is not under evidence protection orders or legal scrutiny? Is Cheney watching and laughing?

Cheney is the only top level White House official who DID NOT go before cameras this week to talk about everything he doesn't know. Dick Cheney won't be seen any time soon.

When they (McClellan & co.) say, "White House," they're actually saying, "THE PLACE WHERE CHENEY IS NOT." Notice how often they use the terminology "White House." And when Novak uses the word "identity," in talking about Valerie Plame, he's not talking about her job at the CIA, he's talking about her "identity" as Wilson's wife. It's a word game. The words are true; the message is a lie.

LISTEN TO THE WORDS THEY USE.

All of the information above is classified...For now.

[maggrwaggr]

38. Nice. Great points. And welcome to DU!

nt

[myomy]

39. Right and KKKRove has a big bowl of ethics for breakfast.

.

[Wapsie B]

40. Oh Karen!

Don't you have some tea party to go to or something? Go bake some cookies. Better yet, fetch me a beer lamb chop.

[tlcandie]

42. * will come out smelling like a rose.. just wait and see!

All the women are pandering to him... Stepford wife Laura, now Karen, Condi protects him like a hawk. Didn't you see his innocent <deer caught in headlights> look from someone's post the other day?

He will be seen as squeaky clean, virtuous, Christianly...yada yada yada. We are hearing it already. :puke: