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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:17 AM
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Supporters exalt 'the rock'
Supporters exalt 'the rock'
Caravan comes to Raleigh protesting removal of Ten Commandments

By MOLLY HENNESSY-FISKE, Staff Writer

RALEIGH -- A traveling protest against separation of church and state brought its twin tablets to the Capitol on Wednesday afternoon en route to Washington, D.C.

The "Keep the Commandments Caravan" featured life-size versions of the Ten Commandments tablets, T-shirts emblazoned with "Demand the Rock" and a replica of the rock itself: a gray, washing-machine-size block of airbrushed foam topped by the tablets.

The tablets lacked any inscriptions and were only a stand-in for the real rock . Since a federal judge ordered the 5,300-pound granite sculpture removed from the Alabama Judicial Building this past summer, it has been locked away, and protests have spread. Some people among the crowd Wednesday, including Olivia Bass, didn't need a reminder -- they already had been to Montgomery, Ala., for prayer vigils in August.

"There's a movement across the country -- Jewish, Christian, Muslim -- a grass-roots movement that's tired of the judiciary taking over," said Bass, a Raleigh mother.

more............

http://newsobserver.com/news/story/2915761p-2680226c.html

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:21 AM
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1. These folks are dangerous
and no they do not understand separtion of church and state
as a basis for this nation
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 08:56 AM
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15. It's not that they don't understand...
it's that they flat do not recognize the separation of church and state. They do not see that separation as valid law. That's what's especially dangerous.
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dofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:27 AM
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2. I thought you meant the
actor who goes by the name The Rock. He's worth exalting.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:30 AM
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3. The Rock, the Golden Calf ...
... what's the diff?

--bkl
Graven images? Moi?
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:33 AM
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4. Cement Headers Make Pilgrimage to Cement Head Himself
Edited on Thu Oct-02-03 06:36 AM by mhr
RALEIGH
By Stoned Aggregate
10/02/03
Stoned News

Singing Rock of Ages at 55 mph, the Cement Head movement vowed no respite in their campaign to guarantee every Amerikan the right to denseness and dullardry.

Before departing, Raleigh mother Rubble Head, speaking for all Cement Headers, said "we are tired of the courts expecting us to use our brains;" going further she said "if the Head Cement Head expected us to think he would have given us brains."

With that, Ms. Head mounted her trusty SUV for the long caravan to visit the Cement Head in Chief. "We expect our highest dullard to rectify this situation at once" said she.

Snip ......
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BloodyWilliam Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:34 AM
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5. Irony that knows no bounds.
Through the fucking looking glass.

Although it does make me want to get a big thing of foam and chisel "Go forth, and be excellent unto each other!"
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:36 AM
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6. Is that the new name for the chair?
:eyes:
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:38 AM
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7. "only a stand-in for the real rock"
Wow...a graven image of a graven image! I thought Silly Season was over in August.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 06:39 AM
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8. With global warming, we can have Silly Season 12 months a year!
Isn't it fantabulous?
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OldSoldier Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 07:18 AM
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9. Silly Season starts after Talladega
And it continues until December. If you read "Winston Cup Scene" you'd know that.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 07:22 AM
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10. Damn! I missed this one.
Of course they roll through town at noon when thinking employed people are at work. I think by definition this means that the folks out supporting this nonsense are brainless losers.

Just my opinion of course.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 07:27 AM
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11. Falwell's a part of this ...
he announced a "national tour" to the capital.

It's going to only the southern bible states where support is high.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 07:42 AM
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12. Yep...from email, so no link and I'll have to post it all....
Falwell Confidential

Date: October 1, 2003
From: Jerry Falwell

On the Road with the Ten Commandments

If the people can't come to the Ten Commandments, take the Ten Commandments to the people. That's the premise of a new venture designed to collect the signatures of people who believe the biblical laws should be freely displayed in public because they are the foundation of American law.

The "Save the Commandments Caravan" is a momentous expedition that is taking the Ten Commandments from Montgomery, Ala., to our nation's capital. Sponsored by Faith in Action and Grassfire.net, the caravan will conclude with a "God Save the United States" rally in front of the U.S. Supreme Court building. The monument is a replica of the one that once prominently stood in the rotunda of the Alabama Supreme Court building in Montgomery.

Following the ouster of that monument, many Americans want to take action against the leftist fanatics who want public religious speech permanently eradicated. As Americans watched that monument being pushed into a back room at the Montgomery courthouse, most realized that it is time to take a stand against the forces that want to secularize our Christian-based nation.

Recent polls indicate that Americans largely support public religious expression.

Asked in a USAToday/CNN/Gallup Poll if a Ten Commandments courthouse monument sends a message that "the justice system gives special consideration to Jews and Christians over those who belong to other religions," 73 percent answered "no." Furthermore, 58 percent said it was "acceptable to display Christian religious symbols in public places for government buildings." And an astounding 71 percent said it would be a "good thing" if a public school teacher displayed a Bible on his/her desk.

Nevertheless, the American Civil Liberties Union, Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, and like-minded organizations are feverishly attempting to silence religious Americans in the workplace, while also working to expel public symbols that honor our nation's unambiguous religious heritage.

When "Save the Commandments Caravan" organizer Rob Schenck set out with his motorcade, he hoped to enlist about 50,000 people to sign a petition urging Congress and the High Court to uphold the public display of the Ten Commandments. As of today (Wednesday) the project has amazingly exceeded 250,000 signatures! (Readers may sign on at Grassfire.net.)

Here's the itinerary of the "Save the Commandments Caravan":

Montgomery, Ala. September 28
Atlanta, Ga. September 29
Columbia, S.C. September 30
Raleigh/Durham, N.C. October 1
Lynchburg, Va. October 3 (rally at Liberty University)

Fredericksburg, Va. October 4 (rally at Mary Washington Monument)
Washington, D.C. October 5 (sunrise rally at St. Matthew's Cathedral; afternoon rally at the United States Capitol; candlelight prayer vigil at the U.S. Supreme Court)
Washington, D.C. October 6 (11:30 prayer rally at the U.S. Supreme Court)

I am very pleased that the caravan will be stopping at Liberty University on October 3. Both Rev. Schenck and Dr. David Anderson, a Liberty alumnus who is on the road with the caravan, will speak in Friday's convocation at the university.

It is important to noted that while a federal district judge and federal appeals court ruled that Chief Justice Roy Moore's monument violated the Constitution's ban against government promotion of religious doctrine, other courts have supported public displays of the Ten Commandments when they are displayed with other historical documents such as the Bill of Rights and the Magna Carta.

"Over and over, ACLU lawyers are standing before judges, writing to school boards, lobbying lawmakers, and grandstanding to the public - attempting to convince America that it's wrong to display the Ten Commandments in public," said Jay Sekulow, chief counsel of the Virginia Beach-based American Center for Law and Justice.

Those ACLU lawyers are dead wrong. And Americans are now rising up to protect the beloved biblical tenets from those who want to trigger their own revisionist agenda on religious speech in the public square. I am praying that millions of Americans will join together to urge their lawmakers to protect the Commandments in this escalating religious freedom battle.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 07:53 AM
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13. Worshipping stones, what
would God think?
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freeforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 09:01 AM
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16. God's Thoughts
She observes that we are behaving very foolishly.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 07:54 AM
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14. "Life-sized version of the Ten Commandments tablets"???
Just how big were those "tablets" when they were "alive"? Look, if these people have nothing better to do than this, well at least they are out in public where they can be kept an eye on. It's distasteful, but bathroom humor usually is.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 09:07 AM
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well, he DID have
the number one movie in the country last weekend, everyone loves The Rock...


oh, THAT rock. my bad.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 09:07 AM
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well, he DID have
the number one movie in the country last weekend, everyone loves The Rock...


oh, THAT rock. my bad.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-03 09:07 AM
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17. well, he DID have
the number one movie in the country last weekend, everyone loves The Rock...


oh, THAT rock. my bad.
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