DRUDGE: CAMPAIGN BOMBSHELL: ARNOLD PRAISED HITLER IN BOOK PROPOSAL

[grytpype]

Full quote:

'I admired Hitler, for instance, because he came from being a little man with almost no formal education, up to power. I admire him for being such a good public speaker and for what he did with it'

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Damn, did the planets just shift alignment or something? The Bush Junta, "Head" Rush Lindenburgh, and now Ahnuld von Schwartzenager blowing up real good, all at once... pleasure overload, pleasure overload

[Ladyhawk]

1. You beat me to it.

I wonder what the freeps will think of this?

[Guaranteed]

56. All I know is: Drudge- 2 for 2.

Wow. He's turning into a legitimate investigative journalist.

[jiacinto]

2. Sheesh

I wonder how this will be handled.

[madmax]

3. Matthews was just on Keith Oberman

pooo pooing the whole thing. Sure, why not! Chris Matthews thinks he's a king maker. I hate the little turd.

[Democrats unite]

6. And to think this asshole ever worked for Tip O'neil

Just makes me sick.

[madmax]

7. Tip is rolling in his grave.

[salin]

36. The hallowed ground

of Tip must be ground to a sandy texture for all of the spinning he has had to do in his grave due to Matthews.

[latebloomer]

4. "and for what he did with it?"

Is he referring to the extermination of 12 million innocent people?

[Guaranteed]

55. There's no explanation for that...

....other than being a Nazi or being totally ignorant of history.
That's just utterly ridiculous. I'm struck pretty dumb here.

[LibInternationalist]

71. okay, come on now...

... it was only the extermination of 6 million innocent people

[chopper]

73. actuall, it was 12.

the Jews weren't the only ones butchered by the Nazis. Catholics, homosexuals, and especially the Gypsies were also murdered. total camee to about 12 mil.

[Selwynn]

5. This is getting so insane that you just have to laugh....

Right before you walk to the ballot box and vote for anyone but Ahnold next week.

[Rose Siding]

9. There is no where to go from here

Maybe this is the kryptonite that will take down our action hero

[Guaranteed]

58. If that doesn't do it, nothing will.

That's basically the ultimate faux paus.

[Guaranteed]

59. Whoops dupe n/t

[David__77]

74. Not "anyone but Arnold."

It can only be Bustmante. He's standing in Schwarzenegger's way, no one else. We must vote for him and bring friends and family.

[hedda_foil]

8. Already broadcast on Jennings (ABC World News Tonight)!

Check out those threads too (GD)

[madmax]

10. Matthews went on to say that the gropper/nazi

donates large chunks of money to charity? :wtf: Who cares!
Hilter loved animals. Attila the Hun had a mother.

Screw you Tweety.

[liberalhistorian]

27. But, but, but-

but Hitler was totally faithful to Eva Braun for all of the years of their relationship, and he NEVER would have gotten a blow job from a perky little assistant or any other woman close to him, so that makes him alright and upstanding and moral, dontcha know!

Sarcasm OFF, Puke button ON!

[ignatius]

11. Remember, his dad was a stormtrooper, and as we know from the

nut in the WH, the nut(or apple for that matter) doesn't fall far from the tree.

He is also good friends with Kurt Waldheim, a Nazi war criminal.

The man seems to be a real loose canon on a major league power trip.

Me Arhnuld, master of the universe.

GAG!!!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

46. Back-up to your post....

Nazi past of Arnie's father
<http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6968866%255E2,00.html>

Excerpt...

"A document found in Austrian archives by The Los Angeles Times shows that Gustav Schwarzenegger joined the Sturmabteilungen (the SA) "storm troops" on May 1, 1939, about six months after the Brownshirts ransacked Jewish homes, businesses and synagogues across Germany and Austria on Kristallnacht.

At the time, Austrian men had to apply to join the Brownshirts, unlike the German army, into which they were drafted after the country's annexation by Germany in 1938.

The Terminator The Simon Wiesenthal Centre in LA, which hunts Nazi war criminals, found that Gustav Schwarzenegger voluntarily applied for membership of the Nazi party in 1938."

[Media_Lies_Daily]

47. Here's an article with quite a bit more detail...

Schwarzenegger's father was a nazi!
<http://articles.ww2.klup.info/?art=186>

"One document in particular shows that Gustav Schwarzenegger was indeed a member of the Sturmabteilungen, also known as the “storm troopers” or brownshirts.” He joined the SA on May 1, 1939 according to the entry in the archive file — about six months after the storm troopers helped launch Kristallnacht, the Night of the Broken Glass, when Jewish homes, businesses and synagogues were attacked across Germany and Austria and thousands of Jews were hauled off to concentration camps. The records contain no other information about his activities with the SA.

This information is 'negative' though membership of the SA is no crime in itself, as is membership of the Gestapo or the SS. Arnold is not proud of the fact that his father was a member of the SA. According to Hier, Arnold should not be held responsible for the acts of his father.

It is not possible to draw conclusions about what Gustav Schwarzenegger did with the SA, said Ursula Schwarz, a researcher with the Documentation Archive of the Austrian Resistance. At the same time she noted, one had to apply to join the SA, unlike, say, the German army, which Austrian males were required to join after their country was annexed in 1938. The Austrian documents also show that Gustav Schwarzenegger served with German Army units that saw some of the most brutal bloodshed of World War II, including the invasions of Poland and France and the German rampage through Russia and the siege of Leningrad. As a military policeman, he appears to have been in theaters of the war where atrocities were committed by the army. But there is no way to know from the documents whether he played a role.

According to the records, Gustav Schwarzenegger received a great deal of medical attention, and may have been wounded. At some point he contracted malaria. He left the army in 1943. The Austrian archives also include the papers, part of a so-called de-Nazification process, that in 1947 determined he could work for the postwarstate because no specific war crimes had been attributed to him. He worked as a police officer in Austria until his death in 1972."

MY NOTE: Although it is not currently possible to know what Gustav did between 1939 and 1945, it is possible to know the general responsibilities of such units. The police units described above followed behind the advancing German armies, and were usually charged with the detention and immediate execution of those people considered to be undesirables. People falling into that category were Jews, gypsies, village leaders, teachers, doctors, Russian commissars, Russian POWs, etc. By the end of WWII, more than 20 million Russian civilians had died, quite a few from the efforts of the SS, SA, and military police units. Those deaths were over and above the deaths of the 6 million Jews and nearly 4 million Poles in the Nazi concentration camps.

And here's a LA Times .pdf article that has a photo of Gustav:
<http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/national/20030909/20030909A13.pdf>

[Booberdawg]

12. I could be wrong but I don't think this is going to hurt Arnie

I'm all for a silver bullet to take Arnie out but this just smacks as contrived to me and not something that is going to sway voters who have not already made up thier minds. Seems kinda cheap and desperate really.

And if his supporters are going to excuse his disgusting groping and crass treatment of women the way they are I don't think this is even going to register.

[gristy]

25. With the news today, I think it's safe to say that NOBODY

has made up their mind in CA. Ahnold's travails today are going to hurt him. Big time.

[foreigncorrespondent]

57. Booberdawg, I have to agree with you.

While this is all great news, it is a little too late. Had it come out a lot earlier we could have used it against the bastard. But now, with the CA election so close, I don't think there is enough time.

My hope is on the women of CA. I hope they don't listen to his half hearted "I am sorry" bullshit, and nail his ass to wall come election day.

[David__77]

75. Yes and no.

It might not convince any of his "supporters" you are right. But it may solidify opposition, and mobilize some of our constituency. Also, of may break away a few points of softer support on the actor's side. Provided we do a good job at turnout and make Bustamante viable, I think we can win. I'm a little more unsure on the recall question. We've got to work both ends of the thing.

[FauxNewsBlues]

13. check the picture drudge put up.

LOL!

[neuvocat]

14. This can't be true,

can it?

[madmax]

15. Yes it can...here's more on his love affair with fascism

Arnold's Nazi Problem
Why won't he repudiate Kurt Waldheim?
By Timothy Noah Posted Thursday, August 7, 2003, at 3:46 PM PT

"A slight Waldheim problem

Here's a question Jay Leno forgot to ask Arnold Schwarzenegger when he announced his candidacy for governor of California on last night's Tonight Show: "Will you renounce your support for Kurt Waldheim?"

A little refresher course may be in order. Kurt Waldheim, a widely esteemed former secretary general of the United Nations, was running for president of Austria in March 1986 when it came to light that he had participated in Nazi atrocities during World War II. Waldheim had always maintained that he had served in the Wehrmacht only briefly and that after being wounded early in the war, he had returned to Vienna to attend law school. In fact, Waldheim had resumed military service after recuperating from his injury and had been an intelligence officer in Germany's Army Group E when it committed mass murder in the Kozara region of western Bosnia. (Waldheim's name appears on the Wehrmacht's "honor list" of those responsible for the atrocity.) In 1944, Waldheim had reviewed and approved a packet of anti-Semitic propaganda leaflets to be dropped behind Russian lines, one of which ended, "enough of the Jewish war, kill the Jews, come over." After the war, Waldheim was wanted for war crimes by the War Crimes Commission of the United Nations, the very organization he would later head. None of these revelations prevented Waldheim from winning the Austrian election, but after he became president, the U.S. Justice Department put Waldheim on its watch list denying entry to "any foreign national who assisted or otherwise participated in activities amounting to persecution during World War II." The international community largely shunned Waldheim, and he didn't run for re-election. (This information comes from the1992 book Betrayal: The Untold Story of the Kurt Waldheim Investigation and Cover-Up, by Eli M. Rosenbaum and William Hoffer.)

One month after these revelations began to splash across the front pages of newspapers worldwide, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver held their wedding reception* at the Kennedy compound in Hyannisport, Mass. Schwarzenegger, a native of Austria, had invited Waldheim to the wedding, which of course can't be held against him because the invitations surely went out well before the war crimes story broke. (Schwarzenegger, who held dual citizenship in Austria and the United States, had also endorsed Waldheim.) Waldheim didn't attend, but he sent a gift—a statue of Arnold, in lederhosen, bearing off Maria, who wore a dirndl. Admiring it, Schwarzenegger offered a tribute that stunned the assemblage into shocked silence (this is reported in Arnold: An Unauthorized Biography, by Wendy Leigh):"

More: http://slate.msn.com/id/2086742/

[shockingelk]

16. CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEXT

I am so sick of hearing the word "CONTEXT".

[GinaMaria]

66. part of an email I recieved today

This is a real emergency. The polls in California show Schwarzenegger pulling ahead, while the truth about his character is only now starting to get out. We have just a few days to make sure everyone in California knows who this man is. Today we ask you to do two things: (1) contribute to a TV ad that we will run across the state of California on Sunday and Monday and (2) send this message on to friends, so they know the details that are only just now getting into the press.

Please contribute to the ad at:

http://www.moveonpac.org/

We need to raise $500,000, by the end of day today.

[IndianaGreen]

17. It doesn't matter, Davis is still going to be recalled!

That is the only constant in this sordid affair. About the only thing that could happen if Arnold is damaged by this 1975 revelation is that McClintock might get a chance at winning this thing, and if that were to happen, it would be a fiasco of major proportions.

As to the groping part, should we mention Clinton or the Kennedys, or the rapist William Kennedy Smith?

Nothing will save Davis!

[haymaker]

19. Would you like to wager on it?

I am not nearly as confident as you are, however, I do live in Cal and I just don't know for sure. Yeah, it could happen, but then again.....

So, since you think you know what is going to happen, and I am not a coward, what say we wager $50 on it?

Are you fifty bucks sure?

[gristy]

26. Nothing will save Davis??????

Yeah, I'd like some action on this bet too. You sound very, very confident. Confident enough to give me 3:1 odds? Your $150 for my $50. Come on.

[haymaker]

29. I think you're talking to Indiana, correct?

The odds thing is a good idea. I should get odds, since it is definetely going to happen. Si or no?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

41. IG knows our state better than we do

The more I read her posts on this matter the more I think she hopes for the worst for us.

[Pale_Rider]

18. Happy, happy, joy, joy ...

... happy, happy, joy, joy ...

[Bozola]

23. I told ya' I'd shoot but you didn't believe me!

[BuckeFushe]

20. How many more apologies do we have waiting in the wings

from this fraud. I was seriously hoping he was a "trojan horse" for the Left, but it looks like he's nothing more than an opportunist. What does Maria think about all of this? What does the Kennedy family think about all of this?

[MODemocrat]

21. God have mercy! Is Arnold completely nuts?

He sounds like he needs to flush his mouth, he's so full of crap. :puke: on you Schwartzenneger.

[Nottingham]

22. I wonder what the california Jewish voters think of that?

:bounce: WOW

No wonder he is a Republican pawn

[Manix]

24. ..this man is a lunatic...will Californians come to their senses!

[rocktivity]

28. This explains the "Bustamante may drop out" rumors

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/Politics/arnold031002_past.html

ABCNEWS obtained a copy of an unpublished book proposal with quotes from a verbatim transcript of an interview Schwarzenegger gave in 1975 while making the film Pumping Iron. Asked who his heroes are, he answered, "I admired Hitler, for instance, because he came from being a little man with almost no formal education, up to power. I admire him for being such a good public speaker and for what he did with it."
Too bad he didn't follow through and learn some public speaking skills of his own.

He is quoted as saying he wished he could have an experience "like Hitler in the Nuremberg stadium. And have all those people scream at you and just being total agreement whatever you say."
Sounds like he admires our Georgie as well.

The author of the book proposal, Pumping Iron's director, George Butler, told ABCNEWS today that the quotes needed to be seen in context, and that Arnold never said anything anti-Semitic.
Anti-Semetic actions speak louder than words, especially in Hitler's case. With friends like these...

..."I cannot remember any of these," Schwarzenegger told ABCNEWS. "All I can tell you is that I despise everything Hitler stood for. I despise everything the Nazis stood for, everything the Third Reich stood for."
Making the first sentence "It was thirty years ago, it was stupid, I've grown up a lot since then, and I'm sorry," would have worked a little better. All of the gangbanging and pot smoking he's also forgotten about must have effected his memory!


rocknation

[Pallas180]

52. HeyZeus. That is truly terrible. And he was young and inexperienced enuf

to be telling the truth of his thoughts and feelings.

No wonder he's a republican. he fits right in with their
fascist machine.

[tlb]

65. This is such a shameful tactic.

The ABC story is a briefer version of what the NY Times has to say. Note the fuller version :

"In the transcript, according to the Butler book proposal, Mr. Schwarzenegger said he wished he could experience the adulation of being a speaker at a huge political rally.

"The feeling like Kennedy had, you know, to speak to maybe 50,000 people at one time and having them cheer, or like Hitler in the Nuremberg stadium," he said, the transcript shows. "And have all those people scream at you and just being in total agreement with whatever you say."

and :

"The exchange from "Pumping Iron" that was in the book proposal was confirmed on Thursday by Peter Davis, a consultant to the documentary project who conducted the interviews of Mr. Schwarzenegger for the film, which chronicled the body-building culture. But Mr. Davis, who is also a documentary producer, suggested that the excerpt had been taken out of context in Mr. Butler's proposal, and that Mr. Schwarzenegger had gone on to say that he had changed his views on Hitler as he grew up in Austria.

"He went right on to say, basically, as soon as he woke up, his hero became John F. Kennedy and he was shaking his head at himself," Mr. Davis said."




To think this is what the democratic party is reduced to relying on. It is a virtual declaration of intellectual bankruptcy, at least for those pushing it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/03/national/03BOOK.html

[pschoeb]

72. Question Though, Is Peter Davis(producer) a Schwarzenegger supporter

Peter Davies is a Hollywood producer now, I'm thinking it is possible he is a Schwarzenegger supporter, wouldn't it make sense for him to spin it by saying there was more in the interview, than in the proposal? where as the proposal makes him look crass, he looks better with the extra bit. It's amazing what Peter Davis remembers.

you missed this part of the article

snip...
"In addition to the transcript, Mr. Butler wrote in his book proposal that in the 1970's, he considered Mr. Schwarzenegger a "flagrant, outspoken admirer of Hitler." In the proposal, Mr. Butler also said he had seen Mr. Schwarzenegger playing "Nazi marching songs from long-playing records in his collection at home" and said that the actor "frequently clicked his heels and pretended to be an S.S. officer.""
snip...
Mr. Butler that his transcribers had had difficulty rendering Mr. Schwarzenegger's remarks because of his accent and said the only way to resolve the discrepancy was to listen to the tapes, which are in Mr. Schwarznegger's possession.
snip...

This is a discrepency Butler now claims, from a so called second trancript he suddenly found after being interviewed about this recently, where Butler says the other transcript says "But I didn't admire him for what he did with it. It's very hard to say who I admire, who are my heroes." interestingly he doesn't add the bit that Davis claims, making Davis memory suspect. This hardly seems like a transcriber error from accent, one wonders if calls were being made to Butler to get Schwarznegger out of this.

It also shows that Schwarznegger could clear all this up with the tape.

Also the NY Times story says that the person who brought the proposal to the presses attention was not a Democratic party person.

Patrick Schoeb

[liberalhistorian]

30. I never thought I'd say this, since I've always

been fascinated with CA (used to want to be an actress, my great plan was to go to LA after college and immediately dazzle everyone with my "brilliant" talent, fortunately I came to my senses!), and there's a part of me that has always wanted to live there, but right now I am SOOOOOOOO glad that I don't live there! I simply cannot imagine having to deal with a Governor Ahh-nold for even five seconds, and the rest of the repuke pack doesn't look very appetizing either. My condolences to you poor souls who are CA residents!

[Emillereid]

31. On ABC news they reported he also said in the interview that he

would one day like to stand in front of such admiring crowds as had Hitler.

The local press here in LA seem to be treating the sexist behavior of Arnold as just more entertaining news -- really playing up his so called apology. It was a weird apology -- right before he made the vague, blanket apology for ever offending anyone -- he had basically denied the LA Times report.

What a scumbag!

[zoeybug]

79. What creeps me out the most

is that he says he want an experience "like Hitler in the Nuremberg stadium. And have all those people scream at you and just being total agreement whatever you say."

It seems that he is in politics only to appease his own ego. It has nothing to do with the people of California. The stories of how he treats women go along with this. He believes that he can do whatever he wants and get away with it.

I can't believe that anyone is planning to vote for this unqualified ego-maniac.

[BattyDem]

32. That quote says it all

Especially the last 6 words:
"for what he did with it"

What he did with it??? Yeah Arnie, you gotta love a guy who rose from nothing up to power ... and became one of the greatest mass murderers in history! :mad:

Will someone please wake me when the human beings are back in charge?

[madmax]

33. I'm laughing at your last sentence.

But, it's not funny - I'm scared. Where the hell are we?

[BattyDem]

34. I don't know where we are ...

but I feel like I'm stuck in a bad episode of The Twilight Zone!

[Chomskyite]

35. It's over for Ah-nuld

If Davis, McClintock and Cruz repeat this specific series of quotes in their commercials (like they are morally obligated to do), Arnold's going down, polls or no polls.

[rocketdem]

37. 1975? That was 28 years ago.

People are going to shrug and say, "so what?"

People change a lot in 28 years. People are expected to change a lot in 28 years.

At most you might be able to wrap it all together with some kind of pattern of behavior. A single quote almost three decades old by itself doesn't amount to squat, IMHO.

[idadem]

38. Adolph Hitler, 1938 Time mag's Man of the Year

Does that make Time magazine a Nazi propagandist rag?

[Emboldened Chimp]

42. Um, 1938 was BEFORE the war

And before he started exterminating Jews. True, they were being treated as second class citizens by that time, but he wasn't throwing them into ovens. What Ah-nuld said came 30 years AFTER the fact. I don't care when the idiot said it, I don't want some Nazi fuck as my governor.

Go Cruz!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

45. Buchenwald was already in operation by 1937...

...and some deaths had already been reported.

Buchenwald
<http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Holocaust/Admissions.html>

The camps were also much more extensive than commonly known:

Concentration Camp Listing
<http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Holocaust/cclist.html>

[happyslug]

48. That was a Concentration Camp.

The Buchenwald Death Camp was a separate (through related) camp. The Death Camps were only built starting in early 1942 right after the infamous meeting outside Berlin setting up the "Final Solution". Most of the Death Camps were independent of existing Concentration Camps (Most o these independent camps were in occupied Poland) but those in Germany proper tended to be next to pre-existing Concentration camps (Many of the Concentration camps had been open years before the Death Camps some as early as 1934).

I like to point out the difference between the two camps, one (the Concentration Camps) had high death rates, but death was NOT it main purpose to exist, the Death Camp, on the other hand, were design to Kill and eliminate anyone who entered them. I would NOT want to be in either, but these were two different types of camps with two entirely different purposes for existing under Hitler.

ON EDIT: I mis-wrote (that what I get from going by memory) Buchenwald seems not to have had aDath Camp attached to it but other Concentration Camps in Germany did so at best a minor error on my part: For more information on Death/Concentration camps see:
http://history1900s.about.com/library/holocaust/blchart.htm

[Media_Lies_Daily]

50. There may have been a semantic difference, but the object...

...was definitely the same. I doubt that you would be able to convince too many of the camp survivors that there was any real difference between the two types of camps you describe. Once the victims entered the camps they rarely came out again, no matter what the specified purpose of the camp.

IMHO, the difference in the concentration camps and the death camps was the rate at which the prisoners were killed. As time passed the newer camps were much better organized, used better systems, and were therefore much more brutally efficient.

[BattyDem]

44. Time's Man of the Year

is not meant to "honor" anyone. It's not an award or a sign of approval. The editors of Time define it as "a person who, for better or worse, has most influenced events in the preceding year." They weren't paying tribute to him, they were acknowledging his rising power and influence in the world. (Joseph Stalin was Time's 1939 Man of The Year.)

I don't care how many years ago this was said. We're not talking about some racial slur or sexist remark by a kid too stupid to know any better, we're talking about a 28 year old man saying he admired one of the most evil people in history ... and a 56 year old man who refuses to offer any explanation except that he can't remember the interview.

In 1975, the world was all too aware of the Hitler's horrors. For a 28 year old man to say he admired Hitler and the way he used his power is despicable.

Sorry, but he doesn't get a pass from me. His admiration of Hitler, his father's Nazi connections and his support for Kurt Waldheim tell me this man has no business holding ANY office in the United States of America.

Wake up, California!




edited: spelling

[Pallas180]

53. Ahem. I was a liberal democrat 28 yrs ago and still am. People don't

change their basic nature and beliefs.

[Guaranteed]

61. You're right, people change.

But I still wouldn't want someone who ever admired Hitler for anything as the governor of my state. To even think for one second that saying nice things about Hitler is acceptable is just insane.

[nolabels]

78. But not Arnold, he gravitates to a more ego centric way, He is sick

He wants to be a governor of California but does not even have the decency to apologize to all these fellow citizens they he keeps on wanting to offend. What is this all about? Is it just a wider pattern of him and people that are now surrounding him? Truly if there ever was or is such a thing as a undercover Neo-Nazi Arnold is it.

Can you imagine any one you know getting up on stage after a long history of criminal sexual assaults (25+ years of such with recent accounts) and saying sorry for that, now please support me to further my cause. This goes past anything I could have ever imagined. My question is why hasn't He been arrested yet? Is the whole world in denial or is it just California?

http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=341305&group=webcast

"ARHNULD," UNREPENTANT NAZI CANDIDATE FOR CA GOVERNORSHIP,UNAUTHORIZED BIOGRAPHY (english)
an informed reader 12:00pm Wed Aug 27 '03 (Modified on 9:04pm Wed Aug 27 '03)
article#341305

updated with others' articles they found about Arnold.
SCHWARTZENEGGER in on 2001 CA Energy/Enron meetings, why? & Quakenbush/W.Buffet; Rothschild connections, George H. W. Bush connections, unrepentant Nazi, campaign decided at Bohemian Grove, eugenics connections. . .more. . 15 SECTIONS

"ARHNULD," UNREPENTANT NAZI CANDIDATE FOR CALIFORNIAN GOVERNORSHIP, THE UNAUTHORIZED BIOGRAPHY

TABLE OF CONTENTS


I. FAMILY BACKGROUND, AND THE FAMILY HE MARRIED INTO IN THE UNITED STATES

II. EUGENICS CONNECTIONS

III.JESUITS AND NAZISM

IV. ARNOLD AS A PUPPET OF G.H.W. BUSH AND OTHER INTERNATIONALIST CRIME FAMILIES

V. ARNOLD FRIENDS WITH EX-NAZI KURT WALDHEIM; ARNOLD BUYS OFF THE WEISENTHAL CENTER TO THE TUNE OF 750,000 DOLLARS TO COVER UP HIS FATHER'S NAZI PAST--does it actually cost the Weisenthal Center $750,000 to conduct research on one person's past, or is that what they do anyway?

VI. ARNOLD DID SOME PHOTO OPS WITH TROOPS AT EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE CALIFORNIA AND WENT TO IRAQ THROUGH HIGH LEVEL SPONSORSHIP BEFORE HE DECLARED HIS CANDIDACY

VII. HIS FATHER'S NAZI PAST

VIII. ARNOLD AND ENRON: SCHWARTZENEGGER in on 2001 CA Energy/Enron meetings, why? & Quakenbush/W.Buffet

IX. ARNOLD AND WARREN BUFFET RELATIONSHIP

X. ARNOLD, BUFFET AND THE ROTHSCHILDS IN A SECRET MEETING IN 2002 IN ENGLAND!

XI. ARNOLD'S CAMPAIGN DECIDED IN THE AMERICAN FASHION--ENTIRELY IN SECRET, AT BOHEMIAN GROVE.

XII. DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS BOTH WANT TO REMOVE CONSTITUTIONAL LIMITATIONS ON THE FOREIGN BORN FOR THE PRESIDENCY--SETTING UP UNREPENTANT NAZI ARNOLD FOR THE NEXT G.H.W. BUSH PRESIDENCY

XIII. BACKGROUND OF NAZI KURT WALDHEIM, ARNOLD'S FRIEND AND WHO HE REFUSED TO REPUDIATE IN PUBLIC

XIV. ARNOLD HATES TO TALK ABOUT HIS FASCIST BACKGROUND AND UNREPENTANCE BECAUSE HE SAYS, IT IS "A NO-WIN SITUATION"

XV. NAZI PAST OF SCHWARTZENEGGER'S FATHER

XVI. CONCLUSIONS: COMMENTS ON BUSH STRATEGIES EMPLOYING ARNOLD, AND 14 POINTS TO RECOGNIZE FASCISM--THE U.S HAS THEM ALL

OPENING QUOTE


"forgive the Nazi war criminals". --G H W Bush in the New York Times, 4/14/1990.
(snip)

This is a growing article and maybe others could be added, take a look

[TahitiNut]

39. Missing link.

No, not just Ahrnuld ... this one - http://www.drudgereport.com/mattaa.htm

Please, read and comply with Rules for Posting in the Latest Breaking News Forum.

[oxycontinrush]

40. planets shifting...

I think you're right. There haven't been so many people so deserving of karmic retribution getting it so visibly for such a long time. Kinda like the day the Nixon tape transcripts were published.

[aquart]

43. Is this cute or what?

One would think Arnold could not possibly be a contender, and yet...

Everyone wants a Terminator. Was the Terminator anatomically correct, btw, because the daddy-substitute protector was asexual. Which, oddly, is how we like Arnold to be. Think of him in Kindergarten Cop, and the one where he has a baby... And the Terminators... Odd, isn't it?

I'm not sure the Terminator fixated voters are going to be able to deal with Arnold as a sexual pig. They may just tune it out.

The Hitler stuff, however...I have such high hopes. It's time Adolf did the world a good turn.

[not systems]

49. Poll on the GOP groper

On the right half way down

http://www.sfgate.com/

[Pallas180]

54. Thanks for the poll EZMOJASON. Now that's hopeful !

.

[Andromeda]

63. That's really good news.

Maybe the voters in the Northbay will offset the S. Calif. idiots who will vote for Ahhhnold.

[Voltaire99]

51. Ironically, he can probably still win. Like this.

Groper. Nazi idolator. Cro-magnon. Doorknob.

Whatever! We're long past being a Republic where substance counts. What matters today is how this is spun. Here, allow me to free-associate some Buchanan-and-Press spin (I so happened to see one of Ahhhnold's flaks on the show today and the cadences are still fresh in mind like turd on a shoe sole):

"But Bill, Bill...that's just not fair to Arnold. What we're saying is, he learned from America to overcome those kinds of feelings. He learned to embrace what's better, which is what America is about. The future and opportunity. And everyone deserves a second chance. Where he came from, what their history was of having only one chance - that's the past, and we all know how close our ethnic ties can be to the past. When Arnold said he admired...whoever, what he really meant was he admires George Washington a whole lot more and that's what we'll be saying going forward. We love America."

[farmboxer]

60. Prescott Bush Would Be Very Proud Of Arnold

Heil Arnold! The "Fourth Reich" is their dream, now we know for sure.

[dfong63]

62. it is odd,

i remember reading most of those quotes long ago. so why is there a sudden surge of interest in what has been known for a long time?

not that it doesn't deserve attention. i just wonder why it didn't receive the attention earlier.

[tlcandie]

70. dfong63 kind of like * stories .. BEFORE the WHorehouse ..

Not many people paid a lot of attention until AFTER the THEFT of the WH occured! Shouldn't be this way, but, unfortunately, it seems the way of it :(

[TrueStory]

64. Riddle

:)

Madonna hasn't got any, the pope has one, but he's not using it,
Bush has a short one and Schwarzenegger has a long one.

What is it?






Answer: Last name :)

[Snellius]

67. Do Republicans still really want Arnold Schickelgroper?

At this point why would the Republicans, who have spent a decade trying to identify themselves as the anti-Clinton party of personal responsibility and moral rectitude, want to be associated, or have their image associated with, someone like Arnold Schickelgroper?

[Beetwasher]

68. LINK TO NYT ARTICLE

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/03/national/03BOOK.html

Truly, I'm astounded at the skeletons in this bimbo's closet. If this doesn't take him down then this country is in a lot of trouble.

[GinaMaria]

69. Anti Arnold commercial needs your help

This is a real emergency. The polls in California show Schwarzenegger pulling ahead, while the truth about his character is only now starting to get out. We have just a few days to make sure everyone in California knows who this man is. Today we ask you to do two things: (1) contribute to a TV ad that we will run across the state of California on Sunday and Monday and (2) send this message on to friends, so they know the details that are only just now getting into the press.

Please contribute to the ad at:

http://www.moveonpac.org/

We need to raise $500,000, by the end of day today.

[gauguin57]

76. aw, come on, Maria ...

join the "Divorced Kennedy Club"! You know you want to ...

[bobthedrummer]

77. "such a good public speaker and what he did with it."

The Holocaust.