Referendum Sought To Repeal California Domestic Partner Law

[davidinalameda]

http://www.365gay.com/newscontent/100303calRefer.htm

California's landmark domestic partner law may end up on the ballot as conservative groups begin collecting names for a repeal referendum.

State Senator Peter Knight (R-Palmdale) and Assemblymember Ray Haynes (R-Murietta), backed by conservative Christian groups, have received approval from the state to begin collecting names on a petition demanding the referendum. They have until December 21 to get 373,816 valid signatures in order to qualify the referendum measure. If successful, the measure would be before the voters in the March 2004 election.

[arcane1]

1. sigh... Get a LIFE, repubes!!!

good thing this is the only problem these days... all the hugry kids are fed, no abuse, no exploitation, no crime, murder, rape, etc...

:eyes:

[Hell Hath No Fury]

2. Hmmm...

Let me guess where they are going to troll for signatures? I bet the counties initials are Orange, Riverside, San Diego...

For many years there has been talk about the two state solution for CA -- perhaps it's time has come???

[DBoon]

3. Just make sure LA is part of the north

Please. We may have terrible air, but local politics are very liberal.

Please don't lump us with the neanderthals in OC/SD/Inland Empire.

[lightbulb]

4. Agreed

LA seems progressive gay-friendly for the most part, especially Hollywood. I'm proud to share the state with you folks.

What's with these busy bodies anyhow? Who is being harmed by the legitimacy of domestic partnerships? Find something useful to do, please, and worry about your own (largely dysfunctional) partnerships.

[David__77]

7. Two states? Sure, why not.

But we can have two Democratic states. We can lump Fresno and the valley inwith the Bar Area and then have Santa Monica and LA carry the south. Four senators are better than two!

[Democat]

5. 300,000 Signatures?

Those on the left should flood the ballot with referendum items that we want.

You should be able to get 300,000 signatures in a few weeks as long as you have a "sponsor" willing to pay for the signatures, like when they paid for Arnold.

[davidinalameda]

6. all they have to do is hit the churches and they'll have the signatures

and ever right wing group will start pouring money into the campaign for the repeal

at least it's good for the economy

:think:

[David__77]

9. If I see them in front of Target or something...

I don't know how I'll react. I certainly never saw the Proposition 22 petition people. You're right--it'll be a church affair, out of public sight. It's so easy to qualify an inititive. We need a counter-petition I think, if only to gather names for a campaign to defend this overdue law.

[davidinalameda]

10. I want to see a petition drive to overturn Prop 22

I'm so fucking sick of these people trying to tell others how to live their lives

I hope there's a special corner of hell reserved for them!

[davidinalameda]

12. I wonder if Equality California is planning on doing anything

about this

Hopefully, this will bust the coalition that surrounds Ahnuld. Hold the fucking Log Cabinites' feet to the fire on this one.

[David__77]

8. We can and will defeat this one!

Proposition 22 only got 61% of the vote, and that was for marriage! This is *only* domestic partnership, and four years of pro-gay trending will have elapsed since that last vote. This will serve to put an evil mask on the GOP, as if that's necessary. Haynes can eat shit, and Knight is demented buzzard.

[darknemus]

11. This is so ridiculously stupid..

Why do people constantly concern themselves with the 'morality' of what someone else is doing? Like I care if two guys or two girls are enjoying their own version of marital bliss or passionate dirty lust or whatever?

Yeesh.. don't hurt animals, don't hurt kids, do onto others, and life will be FINE - stop freaking WORRYING about everyone else's actions when all these people are really trying to do is live vicariously through those they supposedly 'despise'

See, THIS is why I'm proud to be a Liberal. We are truly the political ideology of inclusion as opposed to exclusion.

-darknemus

[hippywife]

18. Well, you know

it is hard to walk around feeling superior to everyone else unless you're making their lives miserable. :eyes:

[DoveTurnedHawk]

13. Bunch of Fucking Dirtbags

Unbelievable. Their homophobia knows no bounds.

:puke:

DTH

[Sapphocrat]

14. I'm only surprised it took this long

Did anybody actually think we'd get to keep statewide domestic partnership in CA? What with that bastard Knight and his ilk, who have been making our lives hell here for decades?

Maybe I'm just feeling especially defeated lately, but when I heard Davis signed off on DP, I just shrugged. No excitement, nothing.

Ditto the SCOTUS sodomy decision. I was elated for about 60 seconds, before I realized this, too, must be nothing but another ploy by the Right. I'm certain now I'm correct.

And while I know the DP law was Davis' doing, I can't help but believe it was the result of some other, horrible back-room macchination we haven't figured out yet. Not that I think Davis is doing the devil's bidding -- but perhaps there's something nefarious behind the opportunity presented him (aside from it being an obvious, desperate attempt to win votes).

Sorry for the downer, guys, (and what sounds, even to me when I read it back, like pure paranoia) but the looming spectre of "Governor" Schwarzenegger on top of a steady, 2-1/2-year diet of * seems to have taken all the fight (and joy) out of me.

P.S. I've always wanted to split California in two -- as long as we could keep L.A. proper for the North. In exchange, we'll draw a horizontal line from Mendocino County to Chico, and hand everything north of that over to OC/SD. I think they'd be very happy together.

P.P.S. I'd be happy not to split California if we could just form that United States of the Pacific mentioned on DU from time to time. Then we could simply "repatriate" all the RWers to the "other" U.S. ... and convert the Crystal Cathedral into a beer hall.

[confusionisnext]

15. What are you talking about?

And while I know the DP law was Davis' doing, I can't help but believe it was the result of some other, horrible back-room macchination we haven't figured out yet.

This bill was authored by Assemblywoman Goldberg, a lesbian from LA. What horrible backroom things could she be involved in?

perhaps there's something nefarious behind the opportunity presented him (aside from it being an obvious, desperate attempt to win votes).

Davis has always expressed support toward the gay community and supported DP rights way before the recall took off. Have you been paying attention at all? Believe it or not, Davis has done some good things over his tenure, but who would know now, given the attention that the actor has received day in and day out.

[Sapphocrat]

16. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough for you

I don't suspect any wrongdoing on Davis's part -- other than his boneheaded timing on signing off on it, as it appeared to be an obvious attempt to garner votes after the recall was a done deal. Not that he needed to cater to the queer vote, and not that he necessarily timed it this way on purpose -- it was simply bad timing, whether coincidental or not. It made him look like he was pulling a Marc Rich pardon in his last days in office (i.e., what does he have to lose now?).

As much as it pains me to say it, the truth is that pushing through anything pro-gay right now is a bad idea. We are a liability to the Dems at the moment (which is why I would have much preferred the SCOTUS decision delayed until after the 2004 elections).

As for Davis' culpability, I believe there is none. What I am saying is that since the timing on this was not good for Davis, I would not be at all surprised that forces working against him (and against us) were somehow responsible for the timing of his OK'ing the CA DP bill.

IOW, I do not suspect any "nefarious" motives on the part of the Davis camp. I do, however, suspect anything "good" that happens for queers (or Dems in general) right now to be short-lived, due to "back-room macchinations" of those devoted to our downfall.

Sound crazy? Far-fetched? Why should it? With everything you now know about the way the Bush Machine works (and how far its long arms reach), why would such a notion sound at all ridiculous?

It's certainly more reasonable than, say, attacking a smaller country on the basis of a big, fat lie because one's "president" has "Pinky and the Brain" delusions of world domination.

It is precisely because I have been paying attention that such ideas occur. If there is one lesson I will take from the Bush II Era, it will be to never take anything at face value, nor dismiss even the most absurd possibility until the truth is known.

Hope that's clearer for you.

[Democat]

17. How about an initiative against Hitler worshipping sexual predators?

No, the right wingers will just go after gays instead.

[Lori Price CLG]

19. We have got to start defeating all these GOP 'mini' coups.

These GOP 'mini' coups have to be stopped. GOP coup tool Arnold SchwarzeNazi seems to be leading the fascism brigade.

-Lori Price