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Patriot_Spear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 07:40 PM
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Study: Fox News Viewer's Most Uninformed / Ignorant on Iraq War
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/special_packages/iraq/6918170.htm

PIPA's seven polls, which included 9,611 respondents, had a margin of error from 2 to 3.5 percent.

The analysis released Thursday also correlated the misperceptions with the primary news source of the mistaken respondents. For example, 80 percent of those who said they relied on Fox News and 71 percent of those who said they relied on CBS believed at least one of the three misperceptions.

The comparable figures were 47 percent for those who said they relied most on newspapers and magazines and 23 percent for those who said they relied on PBS or National Public Radio.






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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 07:44 PM
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1. Alas!
We are lost!

180
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Hokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 07:46 PM
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2. This confirms what we all know
Dumbasses watch Fauxnews. I am surprised CBS is second. No surprise that NPR/PBS followers are the most intelligent.
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trapper914 Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:31 AM
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35. CBS...I'm not surprised
There was a story the right wingers picked up on a few weeks ago involving a study revealing CBS having the most "positive" war coverage...even more so than Faux.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 06:30 PM
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40. That's what I'M talkin' about!
Of all the networks, CBS had the longest and most honored tradition of truth-telling and fact-finding at their command (see Cronkite, Walter, ca. 1968) but they chose not to use these tools when yet another "president" lied to us about yet another "war."

The fact that they elected to roll over for bu$h regarding this abomination means that CBS has far more to answer for than the rest of the Whore Nets.

And Dan Rather used to be a Journalist!

:argh:
dbt
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 07:48 PM
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3. How dumb are the American people?
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 08:16 PM by Scairp
Looks like some of them are pretty dumb. This would be funny were it not so very sad. This false perception that WMD's have been found, even in light of the Kay report, and that there is a connection between al Qaeda is widespread and pervasive. What, did they all think that even Bush was lying when he said there was no connection? I don't get it. How could so many be so ill informed?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 03:54 AM
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28. This is beyond dumb.
This is mass delusion. It's absolutely insane, and it makes me want to leave.
Would be an interesting study for psychologists, though. I think that this shows that people put so much faith in their leaders that they just automatically assume that when the President pushes so hard for something like the Iraq war, the proper rationale MUST be there. It's reverse logic- it's not that the war must be started because one of those things is true, it's that one of those things must be true because the war must be started.
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zanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:38 AM
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37. It's not about being dumb or smart...
It's about what you WANT to believe. People wouldn't watch Fox News if they didn't want to believe in the political ideology that controls Fox News. I know alot of people who support Bush and the war in Iraq. They're not dumb--in fact, most of them are particularly bright. They go along with the conservatives in the Republican Party because the ideology BENEFITS THEM. It's pure self-interest.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 07:52 PM
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4. I move we strike the words "on Iraq war"
from the title of this thread. All in favor say Aye. Motion passes unanimously.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:07 PM
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7. Alright Dudley....
..what did you do with the horse?
I liked your signiture line when you had the chick and the horse..
Wasn't it "and his trusty steed? (or something like that)
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:49 PM
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11. My trusty steed's name is "horse"
and the "chick" you refer to is my costar (and now wife) Nell. They are currently on vacation together in the south of France and will be back soon (at least I think so, they seem to have been gone an awfully long time now). Thanks for asking. :-)
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Danmack Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:31 PM
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20. Aye (nt)
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 07:57 PM
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5. Somebody needs to shove this poll
Up Dan Rather's ass. He USED to be a Journalist!

:grr:
dbt
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smallprint Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:02 PM
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We are a nation
of deranged, deluded, drugged zombies.

:silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:


Praise The Lord and Pass The Ammunition.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:02 PM
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6. This is a riot!
However, FAUX viewers will never know because they are relying on FAUX. It's a virtual circle of ignorance.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:10 PM
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8. Truly Frightening!
These people live in YOUR neighborhoods...
they shop at your markets, they send their dim children
to your childrens schools, they are everywhere.
Be afraid.
Very.
BHN
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 07:41 AM
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33. DIRTY JEWS KNIFING HONEST GERMANS AND POLES IN THE BACK
If this phrase offends you read on!!!! We call it spin-- its really propoganda.

It was done in the last century too, from 1933-1945. A German named Joseph Goebels had more than 80% of Germans and 90% of Poles believing that Jews were dishonest merchants, had fleas and lice, were filthy vermin, nun rapists and that their ancesters killed Christ.

His program worked so well that 6 million Jews and millions of other "undesirables" ie: Gypsies, gays, Slavs and communists, were rounded up and exterminated. Many who (the SS , gestapo) believed the above phrase performed their duties with uncommon zeal. Ordinary citizens turned in Jews for bread and extra rations.

If Joseph were alive today, he would work at Faux. In fact someone like him does work there.

The Chimpanzee's handlers have planned this propaganda all along.

The sad part is so many democrats in congress went along with this crap.
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:12 PM
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9. I thinik I'll post this article on a hard right board and ...
stir up a little trouble tonight. They are so extreme most of them just get there news from rush and newsmax. Fools.
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:28 PM
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10. These people include many of my friends and family.
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WhereIsMyFreedom Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:20 PM
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16. Keep us updated on the results...
... I'm in the mood for some entertainment as well. :-)
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 08:55 PM
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12. Great Poll
This thread is cracking me up. These Fox/Rush robots don't have a clue. DU Rules! :D
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:03 PM
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13. Fox doing its job
propaganda outlet for Bush.

Boggles my mind that people choose to watch Fox News.
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:11 PM
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14. Add me to the list
of PBS supporters. This is scary folks...
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:18 PM
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15. other than CBS, does this really surprise any of you?
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:55 PM
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25. NPR suprises me.
I would think it would be lower.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 03:49 AM
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27. Yeah like....1 percent. n/t
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 07:16 AM
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32. I am completely UNsurprised by CBS's appearance on the list.
They have long had the reputation of fact-finders and truth-tellers, thanks to people like Murrow and Cronkite and programs like 60 Minutes.

My theory is that viewers turned to them for some truth about bu$h and his dirty little war and they simply declined to tell it. Seeing that CBS was raising no flags over all this chicanery, viewers assumed that there was no 'there' there.

To me, this makes CBS bigger whores than Fochs and CNN combined. This is why Dan Rather has so much to answer for, IMO. He USED to be a Journalist!!!

:freak:
dbt
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:21 PM
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17. Can they sue the media
for delivering a defective product? :shrug:
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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 09:21 PM
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18. The real graphic looks like this:
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nwstrn Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:15 AM
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34. Great chart, Bozola
Love it! Rush listeners would probably be at 100 percent.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:19 PM
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19. something's not right about this result....
Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 10:19 PM by mike_c
I just posted this same question in GD. Why don't the percentages sum to 100 percent? If 67 percent of the sheep who believe the al-Qaida myth gave Fox as their primary news source, that only leaves 33 percent of the remaining believers to split among the other primary news sources. What's up with that?
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leftist_rebel1569 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:35 PM
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21. They're polling different sets of people
this is a group of people who listed their primary news source, then answered their questions. So, it's broken down into groups and then graphed.

Kinda get what i'm saying? :shrug:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:52 PM
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24. got it....
Yeah, the wording doesn't make that clear.
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kalashnikov Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:36 PM
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22. i think the graph is mis-worded
I think they mean that of those who have Fox as their primary news source 67% belive that nonsense. Rather than of those who have those misconceptions 67% watch the wily Fox.
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-03 10:48 PM
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23. Thanks for posting this
It really shows the effect of the media's propaganda. Only 25% support the war if they do not hold to any of the three misconceptions.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 12:15 AM
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26. Completely uninformed common people are polled
regarding their opinions everyday and the results are taken seriously. Decisions and policy are set based on these polls.


Our lives are increasingly shaped by the outcome of polls. It's all you ever hear about anymore. Polls seem to influence the results of other polls.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 09:27 AM
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39. Its like polling heads of cabbage
Edited on Sat Oct-04-03 09:27 AM by saigon68
To see what they think, about the rain fall !!!!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 05:46 AM
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29. Those stats pretty much sez it all!
We get very little truth here in the United States of America.

Only what the wealthy wants us to know.
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 07:01 AM
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30. A PIPA link, and overall stats on 3 misperceptions.
Edited on Sat Oct-04-03 07:04 AM by Festivito
[i]I took this from a Google cache and I edited it:
1. 48% incorrectly believed that evidence of links between
Iraq and al Qaeda have been found, 
2. 22% that weapons of mass destruction have been found in
Iraq, and
3. 25% that world public opinion favored the US going to war
with Iraq. [/i]

Misperceptions FOX CBS ABC NBC CNN Prt NPR/PBS 
None of the 3  20% 30% 39% 45% 45% 53% 77% 
1 or more      80  71  61  55  55  47  23

http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/Media_10_02_03_Press.pdf

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Zech Marquis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 07:11 AM
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31. I'm shocked...
NOT! :evilgrin:
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trapper914 Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 08:35 AM
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36. Sadly...
...when presented with this, RWers will still claim that there IS proof of WMD and an Al Qaeda connection. Their argument will be this survey proves what a fine news organization Faux is.
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2cents Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 09:01 AM
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38. We owe those FOX viewers props...
...for making the ultimate synaptic sacrifice by voluntarily submitting themselves to a government controlled brain-rotting audio/visual experiment.

By their sacrifice, future generations will know the consequences of not having a free press.

Thanks guys/gals (if you can still read)
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