Groups Unveil Anti-Schwarzenegger Ads

[True_Blue]

BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. - Women's groups and religious leaders worked feverishly Friday to galvanize opposition to Arnold Schwarzenegger after he acknowledged treating women badly and responded to reports that he told an interviewer he admired Adolf Hitler.

A coalition of women's groups met at the Feminist Majority offices here to unveil an anti-Schwarzenegger ad campaign and introduce a former TV network intern who said the gubernatorial candidate groped her when she showed him around a sound stage 25 years ago.

She was one of several women — including radio psychologist Dr. Joy Browne — to come forward Friday with new allegations Schwarzenegger groped or made inappropriate comments to them. The allegations echo complaints made by other women against the Republican front-runner in the election to recall Gov. Gray Davis (news - web sites).
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=511&e=2&u=/ap/20031004/ap_on_el_gu/davis_recall

[tlb]

1. The attacks on Arnold seem to be backfiring.

He actually appears to be picking up support as most see this as just one more political hatchet job.

( their caps, not mine )

THERE IS A STORY IN THE NEWS ABOUT HOW ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER TREATS WOMEN. HAVE YOU HEARD THIS STORY?

HEARD 73%
NOT HEARD 25%
NOT SURE 2%

IS THE NEWS STORY ABOUT HOW SCHWARZENEGGER TREATS WOMEN . ENTIRELY BELIEVABLE? SOMEWHAT BELIEVABLE? OR UNBELIEVABLE?


ENTIRELY BELIEVABLE 33%
SOMEWHAT BELIEVABLE 46%
UNBELIEVABLE 21%
NOT SURE 0%

SOME SEE THE STORIES ABOUT SCHWARZENEGGER AS AN ATTEMPT BY DEMOCRATS TO UNFAIRLY SMEAR SCHWARZENEGGER. OTHERS SAY THE STORIES RAISE SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT SCHWARZENEGGER'S CHARACTER THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED BY THE CANDIDATE BEFORE ELECTION DAY. WHAT DO YOU SAY?

ATTEMPT TO SMEAR 58%
RAISE SERIOUS QUESTIONS 39%
NOT SURE 3%

HAS SCHWARZENEGGER NOW SAID ENOUGH ON THIS SUBJECT? OR DOES SCHWARZENEGGER STILL HAVE A LOT MORE EXPLAINING TO DO?

HAS SAID ENOUGH 68%
MORE EXPLAINING TO DO 29%
NOT SURE 3%

WHICH OF THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS BEST DESCRIBES YOU:
ONE: I WAS NOT VOTING FOR SCHWARZENEGGER AND I'M STILL NOT VOTING FOR SCHWARZENEGGER.
TWO: I WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR SCHWARZENEGGER BUT NOW I AM NOT VOTING FOR SCHWARZENEGGER.
THREE: I WAS GOING TO VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE, BUT NOW I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR SCHWARZENEGGER.
FOUR:I WAS VOTING FOR SCHWARZENEGGER, AND I'M STILL VOTING FOR SCHWARZENEGGER.

NEVER ARNOLD 36%
WAS ARNOLD, NOW NOT 10%
NOT ARNOLD, NOW ARNOLD 12%
WAS ARNOLD, STILL ARNOLD 40%
NOT SURE/NOT VOTING 2%



http://www.surveyusa.com/home.html

[delhurgo]

2. I predicted this in a thread earlier today....

...and got flamed for it. People see the groping business as offensive and juvenile behavior, but not the huge deal people here and in the news media are making it out to be. And the Hitler thing is absolutely rediculous. He makes an outrageous statement 30 years ago about Hitlers speaking abilities and his opponents are trying to make him out to be a Nazi. lol. And then you have the move-on ad that tries to pass off as serious a stupid joke he made about a scene in a sci-fi movie. Voters are tired this kind of smear politics, especially at the last minute. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins in a landslide.

[thebigidea]

3. as opposed to the sort of smear politics that elected Saxby Chambliss, hmm

[IndianaGreen]

4. Nader was right, there is no difference between the parties

I submit as evidence their propensity for smear and sleaze politics, coupled with their disregard for the issues and their presumption that the voters are idiots.

[revcarol]

8. The article about groping was in process 7 WEEKS before it appeared.

AND it was NOT orchestrated by Dems. Per the LA Times Editor on TV last night.So NOW what do you want to criticize Dems for?

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

12. Arnold entered the race on August 6 and the article was thoroughly

researched before being printed.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

11. Yeah IG that's why Davis asked for a debate and Arnold declined

Rebut this...This Democrat can honestly say the Greens have squandered ANY sympathy I have ever had for them or their message with your platitudes and unworkable polciy sniping. I posted this last night in response to a challenge that Dems should give GREENS something to vote for....funny...not one Green has actually responded

Yeah Davis has done things that MIGHT have not been appropriate and i say MIGHT with a HUGE fucking disclaimer since one has yet to see what would happen with a Green candidate in a MAJOR position of power ( I might add that I witnessed first hand that the PEOPLE party in Mexico PAN got into power and ORGANIZED crimes was supplanted by DISORGANIZED crime)

We live in a state with some of the MOSt liberal labor protections in the nation. Even if Bush PASSED the overtime law it would NOT apply in California where we HAVE protected the 8 hour work day and we are NOT a right to work state.

People here who are injured on the job still get to CHOOSE their own physician after 30 days of control by the carrier. The benefit of that is that one does not have a doctor beholden to the carrier for business shortchanging them on their disability.

These are things to vote for...can a SINGLE GREEN tell me Camejo could get MORE cooperation given the HUGE influence agriculture and law enforecement have in this state even WITHOUT campaing contributions? What do they think Camejo will be able to do? Govern by FIAT?? It's NOT gonna happen

anyway here's just a few reasons that don't seem to be enough:
GREEN ENERGY POLICY

Today, non-hydro renewable energy provides a greater percentage of California’s power supply than it does in any other state in the nation.
Created an $850-million energy conservation program – the largest in state history.
Expressed his support for increasing statewide usage of renewable power from 12 to 17 percent by 2006. Provided more than $350 million in budget funding for the development of renewable power.
Directed the new California Power Authority to make a steady increase in the use of renewable power a priority.
Provided more than $47 million in incentives for the purchase of zero
SMART GROWTH

Closed a loophole allowing developers to subdivide large properties, circumventing environmental and zoning laws.
Signed legislation requiring major new housing developments to identify a source of water prior to construction.
Signed legislation to promote cleanup and redevelopment of urban brownfields.

CHILDREN'S ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH

Unveiled a new plan in 2002 to expand the existing Childhood Lead Poisoning Program.
The Governor provided support for clean-up of hazardous substances at school sites and to evaluate air quality in portable classrooms.
Broadened air quality standards to evaluate health risks to children (in addition to adults).
Signed the Healthy Schools Act to reduce pesticide use in schools.

ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY

Setting the national standard for environmental justice.


Governor Davis established some of the toughest environmental health laws in the nation to regulate toxic mold, Chromium 6, and arsenic.
Signed ground-breaking environmental justice legislation, setting the national standard for long-range planning and environmental guidelines.

COASTAL PROTECTION

An unprecedented commitment to California’s coast.
Governor Davis has provided $107 million to clean up coastal pollution and reduce the number of beach closure days.
Signed legislation strengthening beach and coastal protections.
Filed a lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Interior to block additional offshore oil drilling.
Vetoed the “Rigs-to-Reefs” bill which would have allowed oil companies to leave decommissioned oil platforms in place.

WATER QUALITY

California is the first state in the nation to meet certain federal clean water standards, using an innovative approach addressing both inland and coastal pollution in one program.
Supported and actively campaigned for Proposition 13, which earmarks $1.9 billion for water supply reliability, safe drinking water, flood control, and water conservation projects.
Signed the toughest water quality enforcement law in the nation requiring mandatory penalties for pollution.
Negotiated with U.S. Department of the Interior to address California’s water supply, water quality, and ecosystem restoration needs through the CALFED Bay-Delta program – the nation’s most comprehensive water management system.
$21.3 million in the 2001-02 budget for water quality efforts, including reducing pollution from dairies and storm water.
Governor Davis ordered the phase-out of the hazardous fuel additive MTBE, and petitioned the U.S. EPA to grant a waiver allowing California to bypass requirements for oxygen in gas, on the grounds that it would be counter productive and add unnecessary cost.
Provided $13.5 million in the 2001-02 budget to preserve and restore wetlands around Lake Tahoe.

Overtime Expansion

The Industrial Welfare Commission, whose members are appointed by the governor to reflect the interests of the public, labor and business, extended overtime to hundreds of thousands of workers in California who never before received it. Overtime was extended to the construction, drilling, logging, and mining industries.

Raising the State’s Minimum Wage

California’s minimum wage earners received a pay increase. Governor Davis approved an increase in the state minimum wage from $5.75 to $6.25 effective Jan. 1, 2001. An additional $.50 increase was approved effective Jan. 1, 2002.

Caesar Chavez Holiday

Honoring the founder and long-time leader of the United Farmworkers of America, the governor signed a bill declaring March 31, as Cesar Chavez Day in California. The bill, establishing the first paid state holiday in the nation to recognize Chavez, also requires the development of a curriculum to teach children about non-violence and economic justice, and encourages students to participate in community service activities through AmeriCorps and the California Conservation Corps.

Farm Worker Housing

Mindful of those workers who drive the economic engine of California’s Central Valley, the governor signed legislation that provides $500,000 in tax credits to builders of farm worker housing, another bill that increases family services for farm workers and their families and improves the safety of farm labor vehicles.

Child Care

The governor approved measures that expand the resources necessary to retain qualified child care employees in state-subsidized centers, and that require the state to develop recommendations for playground safety requirements at licensed child care centers.

Labor Law Enforcement

The governor signed legislation strengthening labor law enforcement and increasing penalties for employers who do not pay wages to their workers, and approved a measure that strengthens employment protections for people with disabilities.

Binding Arbitration

Governor Davis approved a binding arbitration process for firefighters and law enforcement employees that preserves the rights of these employees while offering consistent protection of the public.

Workplace Safety

Governor Davis approved increases in funding for Cal/OSHA to improve workplace safety, targeting employers with the highest proportion of fatalities, injuries, illness and workers’ compensation losses.

Young worker safety

The governor approved a statewide young worker health and safety resource network, which will increase the ability of young workers and their communities to identify and address workplace hazards for protecting young workers from on-the-job injuries/illnesses.

I might add that since I was IN PUBLIC HEARINGS in Sacramento for MOST of the labor law issues, I challenge ONE GREEN to demonstrate that a single ONE of those ISSUES was championed by a REPUBLICAN>

No the greens will say..but a contributor of Davis' polluted and he didn't lock them up....I agree that was a mistake however A) the amoutn contributed was OVERBLOWN, b) the perpetrator got heavily fined and there was NO evidence that DAVIS had anything to do with interfering.

Arnold is taking AIM at CAL EPA..because of the TECH and DEFENSE industries, this state deals with approximately 170 toxic chemicals that other states do NOT address. I CHALLENGE A SINGLE GREEN TO PROVE THEY COULD HAVE DONE BETTER with a full HALF of the legislature being Republican for Davis first term.



Oh and one more thing..the thing that cracks me up the most
are people who support Howard FUCKING DEAN and Dennis Kucinich saying Gray Davis is TOO conservative. Read the above and you will see why...Davis increased women's rights and INCREASED the minimum wage and INCREASED union participation in the state while taking on OIL, DEVELOPERS and every other big money interest. Ideologically Davis is CLEARLY to the left of both of them but just doesn't seem to resemble Che Guevara enough for some people's tastes...Nevermind that he is governor for a state with 35 fucking million people and half of them are bigots that think every problem we have is because of mexicans (while they eat Taco Bell)


I won't be expecting a reasoned rebuttal anytime soon...it's easy to defend your pariy's record when they don't have one

[IndianaGreen]

15. I am not a member of the Green Party and I support Bustamante

Caesar Chavez Holiday

Honoring the founder and long-time leader of the United Farmworkers of America, the governor signed a bill declaring March 31, as Cesar Chavez Day in California. The bill, establishing the first paid state holiday in the nation to recognize Chavez, also requires the development of a curriculum to teach children about non-violence and economic justice, and encourages students to participate in community service activities through AmeriCorps and the California Conservation Corps.

BTW, in case you didn't know this, the person behind the drive to have a Cesar Chavez holiday was not a Democrat at all, but a Red Latina. Evelina Alarcon is a Vice Chair of the Communist Party USA and she is also Chair of the CPUSA Southern California District. Comrade Alarcon wrote extensively about the strugle to get the Chavez Holiday enacted into law in the party's publication, People's Weekly World.

Here is more:

Winning a national holiday for Cesar Chavez is a crucial part of uniting our class and people, of building Black-Brown-white unity and multi-racial, multi-national unity. It is a holiday which recognizes the class struggle, the leading role of labor.

http://www.politicalaffairs.net/V80/8008/0801highlights.html

Cesar E. Chavez Holiday Campaign

Press Release
Los Angeles
8/10/2000

Statement issued by:

Evelina Alarcon, State Coordinator
Cesar E. Chavez Holiday Campaign

Cesar Chavez legacy will inspire for all time!

The stage was set for history to be made when the state legislature voted today to approve a bill to create a paid state holiday in honor of Cesar E. Chavez, the late founder and president of the United Farm Workers of America AFL-CIO. When signed by Governor Gray Davis, this holiday will mark the first time in our country that a Mexican American and labor leader will ever receive this honor.

It took nearly one year and a half to convince the legislature that millions in our state feel passionately about Cesar Chavez. It took the gathering of signatures from over 160,000 people on petitions, postcards and letters. It took rallies, candlelight vigils, human billboards, labor/community actions, an internet network, resolutions from city councils, school boards, county boards of supervisors and organizations from across the state.

The campaign was led and organized by ordinary people who gave of their volunteer time to insure that the life's work of their hero would be recognized by their children and the generations to come.

Cesar Chavez touched millions of us in a way that will stay with us forever. He inspired us with his selfless devotion to the fight for farm workers rights, civil rights, environmental justice and non-violence. He gave us confidence that with organization, unity and sacrifice that we could win our cause. He gave us courage and dignity in the face of discrimination and economic injustice. He taught us how to stand tall and overcome.

http://www.sfsu.edu/~cecipp/cesar_chavez/holidaysign.htm

[gristy]

18. The voters ARE idiots.

n/t

[delhurgo]

5. Yeah, that was really disgusting; trying to paint...

a war hero unpatriotic for taking a principled stand on an issue - I have to admit I don't remember what it was though. I hate that guy for that. And on tv he seems like a nice guy, even though I disagree with his politics. I'd love to see Clealand win his seat back. He deserves to.

[Judi Lynn]

23. "I'd love to see Clealand win his seat back. He deserves to."

You'd better believe it.

I've never seen anything as unbelievably dirty as that campaign against Max Cleland pitched by the Republicans.

[mitchtv]

29. DAVIS has a bronz star from 'Nam

Arnold did time in the brig for AWOL

[PROGRESSIVE1]

6. SurveyUSA is a Cheap Right Winger Polling Group!!!!!!

Remember, we had this discussion many times before on DU!!!!!!!!!


I DO NOT believe this poll!

[Darth_Kitten]

22. Right, groping and degrading women isn't really a serious issue......

I mean what's the big deal with sexual assault anyways? :eyes: When anything happens to women it's just insignificant and trivial? Somehow I don't think Arnie would give women's issues any serious thought........Why should we matter? It's pathetic that he is probably being given more credit and respect than most of the people who will vote for him will EVER give their own wives, girlfriends, sisters, mothers, daughters, you name it. :( I mean he apologized and all, the poor regular joe. :eyes:

And, oh please, the noble, well-educated, holier than thou public is just so tired of crassness in politics? Sorry, call me cynical but I don't give the populace in general that much credit.....

[shanti]

25. i highly doubt that he wins in a landslide

remember, this IS a democratic state!

[David__77]

9. This poll shows declining Schwarzenegger support.

The last poll showed him at 45%, now it's at 42% (40 + 2). I do think that this will do two things: motivate his core supporters, who were already motivated, and also two peal away a significant section of others. It's a net gain, we will see.

[AP]

10. They're probably surveying Fox viewers.

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/special_packages/iraq/6918170.htm

[realFedUp]

13. This is SurveyUSA again....

This always skews to the right...

[rocktivity]

20. Ignore Surveyusa

They've been pumping Arnold for weeks.


rocknation

[Bandit]

21. But you thought Clinton have consensual sex was impeachable conduct

You guys slay me with your hypocrisy.

[Spazito]

7. The real hypocrisy here is...

the same media that printed EVERY whisper and rumour on Clinton is NOW downplaying rumours about creepy Arnold. It is beyond disgusting, imo.

( Edited to take out questioning, it was a typo, fingers faster than brain)

[realFedUp]

14. Wonder if Arnie's daughters are allowed to read papers

and watch television...how are they explaining
all this stuff to them?
Surprised that he hasn't even mentioned them.

[gauguin57]

16. good grief!

If, after obsessing over Bill Clinton's penis for years and years and years, California Repuglicans STILL elect this brainless hulk -- despite both his thoroughgoing skankiness and his lack of concrete vision for the state's future -- then I will have no sympathy when the state goes completely bankrupt or the San Andreas Fault sends it tumbling into the Pacific.

No sympathy. STUPID people.

Not to mention: It's been a veeeerrrryyyy short campaign season out there in La-La-Land. ANY revelation is necessarily a LAST-MINUTE revelation.
Demo smear campaign? Puh-leeeeze!

[twilight]

17. daddy gangbang?

I doubt the kids know what this is hopefully! How incredibly sick. I'd be ashamed if it was my father! If it was my husband, I'd DIVORCE the SOB!

:nuke:

[truthisfreedom]

30. Doan lissen to dem. Dey ahh ohnly tryhing to smeah your faddah. You

know i voud neffah do such dings. Ask your muddah, she knows da truth.

[rocktivity]

19. Well, it's a moot issue now

Is there time to make a commerical out of this?

Arnold Unplugged - It's hasta la vista to $9 billion if the Governator is selected


Here's the story Arnold doesn't want you to hear.  The biggest single threat to Ken Lay and the electricity lords is a private lawsuit filed last year...This litigation...would make the power companies return the $9 billion they filched from California electricity and gas customers...

...the Bush commissioners cook up a terrific scheme:  charge the companies with conspiracy but offer them, behind closed doors, deals in which they have to pay only two cents on each dollar they filched...(but) the slap-on-the-wrist refunds won't sail if the Governor of California won't play along.  Solution:  Re-call the Governor...The pay-off?  Once Arnold is Governor, he blesses the sweetheart settlements with the power companies...


rocknation

[Piperay]

24. It's to late

nothing is going to stop the groper from becoming governor now. :cry:

[shanti]

26. quit crying

and hold yer head up! it's not a done deal by any means!

[truthisfreedom]

27. yeah, i agree. there is so much momentum to the anti-predator news that

there's still a chance he'll simply step down from the race. there is a point at which he will have to concede that the lawsuits and bad news that would continue as he'd try to govern would make his work impossible.

[robbedvoter]

28. Carry on! And don't forget Hitler either! Forget the wingnut polls

they are only psy-ops. Attack and get people to the polls. Go Democrats and the F* with EVERYONE WHO WANTS TO PROFIT FROM THIS ATTEMPTED COUP - whatever color they are! Win one for the decent people guys!