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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:41 PM
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Schwarzenegger Loses Paper's Endorsement
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20031004/ap_on_el_gu/davis_recall

By JEREMIAH MARQUEZ, Associated Press Writer

LOS ANGELES - Arnold Schwarzenegger sought to shake off allegations of sexual misbehavior that cost him at least one newspaper endorsement Saturday as he and the other gubernatorial candidates leaped into their final weekend of campaigning.


The Oakland Tribune withdrew its endorsement of Schwarzenegger on Saturday, saying the sexual harassment allegations indicate "a pattern of recurring abuse and boorish behavior that in different circumstances could have led to assault charges."


"By no stretch of the imagination can his groping and grabbing on 'rowdy movie sets' be dismissed as an isolated incident," the newspaper said.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:43 PM
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1. Kudos to the Oakland Tribune
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 09:39 PM
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29. He lost two over the weekend -- would this be the third?

rocknation

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soupkitchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:44 PM
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2. And the paper's reasoning is so sound that
many other's will follow suit.
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:45 PM
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3. way to go in the East Bay!
Edited on Sat Oct-04-03 02:51 PM by twilight
No one hopefully cares to ENDORSE such a refined monster of a human being or whatever the HELL Schwartzenazi really is!

Good on ya' Oakland!

:kick:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:47 PM
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4. ANd they were going to "endorse" him before that? Why?
Because jerry freakin' brown thinks he's great?
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 11:29 PM
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26. a lot in common
Jerry and Arnold have a lot in common on a lot of different levels. I've heard rumors that the mayor can be 'overly friendly' at times. He's also a money grubbing ass. But, hey, that's just my opinion.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:51 PM
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5. my favorite part
of the story:

In a report for Saturday editions, the Times said three more women came forward Friday with allegations the actor grabbed or groped them. The actor's campaign denied two of the claims — alleged incidents on the set of the 1988 movie "Twins" — and would not comment on the third.

"No one confronted me," Schwarzenegger said Friday. "If someone comes to me and says, `How dare you do this, how dare you say this,' I can apologize right then and there."

there. that settles it. apologizing makes it all okay.

ignorance of the law is still no excuse, arnold.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:54 PM
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6. I wonder what CA newspapers are endorsing him?
None of the biggies are.
Maybe the Orange County Register...?
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 03:03 PM
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8. San Diego Union Tribune.
No big surprise there.. Newspaper's interests' not often with those of its readers.. The owner of the San Diego Union Tribune, I understand has a big interest in Nursing Homes.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 03:12 PM
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9. I hate the San Diego Union! If they endorse arnie then they should
be held responsible..they are being derelict

How much more is going to come out before they Don't endorse arnie anymore like the Oakland Tribune?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 02:58 PM
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7. That is great news!
Edited on Sat Oct-04-03 02:58 PM by Spazito
A newspaper with a sense of ethics! I can only hope this is the first of many withdrawals of endorsements.

(Edited to add this: Please vote this a 5 to get it high on Yahoo's list of top stories)
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 03:32 PM
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10. Man bites dog
A newspaper endorsing a candidate is not news.

A newspaper endorsing a candidate and then withdrawing that endorsement is.

Let's hope more than a few people notice. Unfortunately, there aren't that many people in northern Alameda County (Oakland and Berkeley) where the Trib has the bulk of its circulation who were going to vote for Arnold in the first place.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 03:36 PM
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11. Good for the Tribune
Gee, Der Groper only attacked women on "rowdy
movie sets" eh? I wonder which movie they
were filming on that elevator when he tried to
remove a woman's bathing suit.

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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 03:45 PM
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12. Write letters today
I did...we still have a couple of days to sway some fence sitters.
It's not over yet. The coup of Big Blue cannot go unchallenged.




Los Angeles Times
letters@latimes.com


The San Diego Union-Tribune
letters@uniontrib.com


San Francisco Chronicle
letters@sfchronicle.com


San Francisco Examiner
letters@examiner.com


Any others I should write to today?



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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 04:50 PM
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16. oc register
Letters@ocregister.com
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 06:09 PM
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19. Thanks....a couple more
Santa Barbara News Press (We call it "the news suppress")
voices@newspress.com

Ventura county Star
letters@venturacountystar.com



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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 12:11 AM
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27. Oh, well you'll love this flash movie then..
It's specifically about the News Supress :)

It's when I was dressed like Cheney and rode around in a 1937 Rolls Royce throwing 911 deception dollars to the crowd of about 350 for over an HOUR on STATE STREET and the NEWS PRESS DIDN'T SEE IT.

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/noprotest.html

I think I'm going to make a list on TBTM and get people writing..

SO far Al Gore and Barbara Striesand have called tonight :)
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 09:19 PM
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28. I love it...
...you made the point beautifully. Right there in De La Guerra Plaza, inches away from their front door...yet they didn't "notice" the story. Incredible.
Another great one, Symbolman. Thank you. :)
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 04:58 PM
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18. I sent out some letters
I just wrote the following. It would probably be better from a CA resident, so if anyone wants to plagiarize feel free:

To the Editor:

Sitting here in one of the forty-nine states that has better things to than have another election, I'm astounded at the enthusiasm that seems to exist in California for Arnold Schwarzenegger. If you're so worried about the budget deficit, why are you going to give the most powerful position in your state to someone who does not have any experience? Don't you think the special interests in your state are going to manipulate him with their lawyers and lobbyists? Would you hire him to manage your own finances? Maybe you think he's really brilliant, but to me he comes across as slow and thickheaded. What other jobs do you think he'd be good at besides actor, bodybuilder, and the person to manage a $38 billion debt!
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oxycontinrush Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 04:07 PM
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13. How did Ahhnold get the endorsement of an Oakland paper?
What was a paper from the East Bay doing giving Ahhnold an endorsement in the first place?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 04:11 PM
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14. My question exactly! See post #4..
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TXDemGal Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 04:52 PM
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17. Very good question
Edited on Sat Oct-04-03 04:53 PM by cheryl_d
The original endorsement from the Oakland Tribune contains piss-poor reasoning:

http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82~1761~1662837,00.html

They admitted he has zero political experience but yet they endorsed him based on his professed desire to "help" Caliofornia. They admitted that Pete Wilson and others from the Wilson administration are behind Ah-nold but they bought the groper's assurances that "On Oct. 8, it won't be Governor Pete Wilson...it will be Governor Arnold." That's like Bush* assuring the plebes that he'll be in charge, not Rove, not Crash Cart Cheney, not the rest of the retreads from Poppy's admin. Yeah,right.

Their original endorsement seemed to be based on nothing but the editorial board being star struck over Ah-nold's platitudes about state government.

To the paper's credit, they withdrew their endorsement. But they never should have endorsed this pig in the first place.
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Maine-i-acs Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 04:46 PM
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15. Something about that bothers me...
The Oakland Tribune withdrew its endorsement of Schwarzenegger on Saturday, saying the sexual harassment allegations indicate "a pattern of recurring abuse and boorish behavior that in different circumstances could have led to assault charges."


Different Circumstances??????

Meaning if Arnie was a supporting player, gaffer, a Democrat, a black man, or anyone but a Big-Budget Gun-Toting Right-Wing Aryan Movie Star, there would be assault charges?????

I say there should be someone pressing charges!
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Katie Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 07:44 PM
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20. Maine-i-acs you're right someone should
why is arnold exempt from the law?
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 07:48 PM
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21. i wonder how fast we could organize a schwarzenegger DVD burning party?
like those record-burning parties they have?
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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 09:24 PM
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22. And here's another lost endorsement:
http://www.sanmateocountytimes.com/Stories/0,1413,87~11305~1676505,00.html

The San Mateo County Times, part of the regional Alameda Newspaper Group, has reversed its endorsement of Schwarzenegger tonight. Enjoy:

"Schwarzenegger no longer worthy

GIVEN the accusations of sexual abuse leveled against Arnold Schwarzenegger by six women and his disingenuous admission to such behavior, we strongly reconfirm that our readers vote "no" on the recall, but can no longer recommend they cast their 'if-not-Davis-then' vote for Schwarzenegger.

As stated in our initial recommendation last week, "none of the ... candidates still in the race fit our ideal criteria for governor." Although deeply divided on the second part of the ballot question, the ANG Newspapers editorial board initially recommended voting for Mr. Schwarzenegger because of his perceived leadership ability and blend of moderate social and conservative fiscal stands.


Although allegations of his abusive and disrespectful behavior toward women had surfaced earlier, the latest revelations reported in the Los Angeles Times and Schwarzenegger's convenient, but seemingly insincere admission that "I have behaved badly sometimes," alienates a significant proportion of the state's population, male and female.

It indicates a pattern of recurring abuse and boorish behavior that in different circumstances could have led to assault charges. By no stretch of the imagination can his groping and grabbing on "rowdy movie sets" be dismissed as an isolated incident. .........."
(snip...it's worth the read so click the link if interested)
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 09:27 PM
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23. Well, they didn't say he wasn't "in touch" with his constituents.
hahahahaha... "in touch"... i slay myself.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 11:12 PM
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24. Well...if they want to sell papers.......they better start doin their
HOMEWORK!!!!!!!
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-03 11:22 PM
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25. This gets better by the minute
Sorry Californians - I don't mean to laugh at the mess you're in ... but you have to admit, watching the tide slowly turn against Ahnold is quite amusing!




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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 09:42 PM
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30. The question is . . .
. . . did the tide turn in time to drown the bastard?
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