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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 06:46 AM
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Actor slams 'puke politics,' blames Davis
Actor slams 'puke politics,' blames Davis

Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer Sunday, October 5, 2003

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Modesto -- Arnold Schwarzenegger denounced Saturday the latest accusations that he sexually harassed women, calling the claims "absolutely untrue" and "part of the puke politics of the Davis campaign."

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Then in the Sunday Times, the paper reported that four more women -- 15 in all -- had revealed that Schwarzenegger fondled, spanked or touched them on occasions as recent as 2000 and as far back as 1979.

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ACTOR SUSPECTS A CONSPIRACY
Saying the Los Angeles Times is "trying to derail my campaign," Schwarzenegger complained he was not given enough time to respond to the charges and suggested the newspaper was in concert with the Democrats.

Schwarzenegger was asked specifically about the reaction of Shriver, who was at his side. "First of all, everything that I ever had done I do together with my wife. We are really good partners . . . she has been the greatest partner. She has been so supportive. "It hurts her feelings, because she knows me. She knows I'm playful, and all those things. But she knows that I am not perfect. But she knows those accusations are wrong, and they are lies . . . political attacks."

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E-mail Carla Marinucci at cmarinucci@sfchronicle.com.
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http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/10/05/MN4232.DTL

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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 06:53 AM
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1. and no on is asking two crucial questions...
Edited on Sun Oct-05-03 06:53 AM by displacedtexan
why did mclintock stay in the race?

they really do eat their own, don't they?
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Ferretherder Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 06:55 AM
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2. Uh, Arnie...about this...
..."She knows I'm playful, and all those things. But she knows that I am not perfect."...

Yeah, now WE know you're not 'perfect', too. Hell, you're not even moderately acceptable, come to think of it.

I sure bet one W. J. Clinton is chuckling to himself, about now, and saying 'Ain't payback a bitch!'.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:07 AM
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5. One wonders how Howard Stern would be received
if he ran for a Democratic office. Hopefully in the same way.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 09:53 AM
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17. did Howard grope women against their will?
do you get the difference? No one cares (at least I don't) what you do with an adult consenting woman, but once you start groping out of the blue it's a different story.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 12:39 PM
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18. No fan of Howard Stern
He propagates the environment that allows Arnold-Swarznegger-types to think that all women are bimbos.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 02:00 PM
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25. Thank you for that comment
As someone who has debated you in other threads, I really appreciate understanding your views better. I agree, there is a world of difference between consensual activity and non-consensual actions. Arnold grabs womens breasts, their ass, says he wants to rape them without their consent. He's despicable.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:30 AM
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9. "Playful???"
http://eightballmagazine.com/diatribes/volume01/diatribes024/diatribes475-494/diatribes493.htm

Oversexed Arnold Schwarzenegger Gets A handful Of British Talk Hosts!
"Riot Fuel" by Eightheadz, creator of 8BM.com During his promotional visit to Britain this week Arnold Schwarzenegger groped Denise Van Outen on the Big Breakfast and behaved in a similarly oversexed and over here fashion with a clearly panicked Melanie Sykes on ITV's Celebrity.

The Sun in England newspaper reports that Sykes was chatting with Arnold when, as cameras rolled, he grabbed her around the waist.
She pushed his hand away, saying: "Get your hands off me - I'm scared."

I don’t blame her. Any actor who excels at playing barbarians and robots and has trouble understanding English is not the kind of guy that I want to have to tell to get his hands off my ass.

http://www.celebritysexnews.com/newsitems/arnoldtittytwister.shtml

Arnold Schwarzenegger: I'm da titty twister!

Arnold Schwarzenegger (December 11, 2000) If an incredible and amusing report coming out of the UK last week is true, we may finally know why Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger gets along so well with those randy Kennedy boys. According to British TV host Anna Richardson, the lecherous action star pulled her onto his knee at the end of an interview she was conducting with him, demanded to know if she'd had a boob job, then pinched one of her nipples.

It was a bit of a shock for the chesty host of the British television show Big Screen. She told the UK tabloid The Sun that the incident made her feel angry and embarrassed, but also a little helpless. "I wanted to say, 'You dirty bastard.' But you can’t tell a powerful man like him to fuck off."


"He kept saying how fantastic I looked and staring at my boobs," complained Richardson. "When I went to shake his hand he pulled me on to his knee, saying 'I really want to know if your breasts are real.'"
...Anna says she stood up then and told him "You’re making me nervous." But Arnold told her to relax and pulled her back on his knee. Finally, he let her up, and according to Anna, "patted my bum as I went off."

A TV insider who was among seven other people present for the interview backed up Anna’s claims: "Everyone was in shock. He appeared obsessed with Anna’s boobs." But Arnold's UK spokesman shrugged it off, telling The Sun, "I don’t know anything about this particular incident but Arnie is a big flirt, as is Anna.

That may be the case, but it's a hell of a way to charm a babe, and Arnold is a married man. So no one can say for sure if there will be any further repercussions, but given Anna's embarrassment and anger over the incident, this could well be the one time that Arnold won't be back.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 08:07 AM
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14. Paging Larry Klayman
Larry, are you gonna help these victims file civil suits against Governor Sperminator?

How is ol'Tittytwister gonna govern if he has to defend civil lawsuit after civil lawsuit?

Will the Democrats in the state legislature move to impeach him or not?

Wow, the state is going to hell, but we're gonna have some fun!
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kainah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 05:44 PM
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28. Civil suits, indeed
The repugs who were so fond of Paula Jones better get themselves settled in for the state replay if Ahhnuld gets elected. If a sitting president will not be overly distracted by a civil suit, then I don't see how it can be a bother to a sitting governor. Although, one suspects the Supreme Court will have miraculously "seen the light" now. :think:
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bambo53 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 06:59 AM
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3. Interesting
Edited on Sun Oct-05-03 07:07 AM by bambo53
"Schwarzenegger was asked specifically about the reaction of Shriver, who was at his side. "First of all, everything that I ever had done I do together with my wife. We are really good partners . . . she has been the greatest partner"

So, Ms Shriver enjoys gangbangs and gropings. My my, she is a good girl...
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:04 AM
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4. What pisses Arnold off is this
Davis plays like a republican. You run against him, he takes a GOP playbook and uses it. Willie Hornton, Whitewater, Monica Lewinski, and on and on. You asked for this Arnold, and I am sure your dear loving wife could have told you this if you were willing to listen to a woman. You run for political office and all of your buiness will get put out in the stret like this. Did you not know this because you know nothing about politics, or did Karl Rove say you would win after pulling Issa out, or better yet because you have not voted in 13 of the last 21 elections. OVER SEXED MUSCLEHEAD!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:11 AM
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6. Shriver: If I am raped, I am used goods, he'd leave me"
Ain't she lucky a buddy of Arnie was not around when Ahrnuld was otherwise engaged?
Source for the quote:

  http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/29/1417241
Use it guys! Demolish the anorexic bitch too! Keep it up!
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:29 AM
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8. Umm, excuse me
"Demolish the anorexic bitch too!"

Aren't we no better than the Repugs when we attack wives?
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:17 PM
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23. many of us aren't and anyone that would call her a bitch
has no credibilty as a feminist either.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 02:20 PM
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26. You know that wasn't my quote, right?
Just want to make sure.

I find the statement very offensive.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:31 AM
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10. If she said that...
...then he has really played mind fuck games with her.

For crying out loud if ashe is raped then as her husband he should stand by and support her through the rough time she will be going through.

If I was to be raped the first person I would turn to is Sapphocrat, and I know she would be there for me no matter what.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 09:37 AM
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32. He has been quoted on this ??????!!!!
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 09:39 AM by Desertrose
From the link above....

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/08/29/1417241

"Bodybuilders party a lot, and once, in Gold's--the gym in Venice, California, where all the top guys train--there was a black girl who came out naked. Everybody jumped on her and took her upstairs, where we all got together."

Asked if he was talking about a "gang bang," Schwarzenegger answered,

"Yes, but not everybody, just the guys who can f--- in front of other guys. Not everybody can do that. Some think that they don't have a big-enough (deleted), so they can't get a hard-on. Having chicks around is the kind of thing that breaks up the intense training. It gives you relief, and then afterward you go back to the serious stuff."


What a sick bas****!
This is the most disgusting thing I have hard in a while-how can anyone take this predator of women seriously.....I can't say out loud what I think ought to be done to Ah-nie...this is beyond bizarre....what a POS excuse for a MAN!
Peace
DR
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:25 AM
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7. Screw him.
He knows what the game is, and if he can't take it, get the hell out.

Besides, he has no idea how hard he'll be slammed if he actually does get the job and things get worse. As they probably will.

Get used to it Arnie, politics isn't getting any nicer just because it's you.

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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:31 AM
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11. Add to that, Davis wants a criminal investigation of him
Even if he gets in, he may be brought up on charges for his sexual misconduct. How would that look for all of the repugs if he went to jail or was convicted and let off on probation and maybe a fine.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 12:56 PM
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21. Here's another investigation Davis and Bustamante wants
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=283&row=0

...It turns out that Schwarzenegger knowingly joined the hush-hush encounter as part of a campaign to sabotage a Davis-Bustamante plan to make Enron and other power pirates then ravaging California pay back the $9 billion in illicit profits they carried off.

...One month after Cruz brings suit, Enron's Lay calls an emergency secret meeting in L.A. of his political buck-buddies, including Arnold.

...the Bush commissioners cook up a terrific scheme: charge the companies with conspiracy but offer them, behind closed doors, deals in which they have to pay only two cents on each dollar they filched.

Problem: the slap-on-the-wrist refunds won't sail if the Governor of California won't play along. Solution: Re-call the Governor...


rocknation



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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:34 AM
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12. What do you call ASSULTS on women?
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 07:37 AM
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13. It takes a Puke to recognize Puke.....he's a loser...like bush...they are
egomaniacs with the emphasis on the maniac.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 08:26 AM
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15. egomaniac yes
but even worse Bush and the gropenfruerer are narcissuses, Vain, smug COXCOMBS!
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 08:37 AM
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16. He talks just like a loser that he is.
eom
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 12:42 PM
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19. Now we know why Arnold needed a recall.
There's no way he would get in any other way. Arnold wouldn't even make it past the primaries in a real, fair election. He has to depend on this exploitation of a weakness in CA law. He's a dirt bag.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 12:44 PM
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20. I really wish someone would translate this statement to our advantage
It's not PUKE politics, it's REPUKE politics...we learned it from Kenneth Starr.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 12:57 PM
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22. Yes, as a matter of fact, they ARE "puke politics", Repuke, that is!
Republicans can sling it, but they sure can't take it when it comes back around at them. Of course, consensual sex and assault are a little different, aren't they.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 09:03 AM
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31. Bingo! He is getting a dose of the treatment that Clinton received
for over eight years if you include his first presidential campaign...
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 01:38 PM
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24. ahh-nold is HOSED. FOUR MORE women today... more groping, threatening
see my post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=150738

This has got to be nearing the nearing the record-breaking point for bad news for any politician in history.
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-03 02:47 PM
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27. My opinion ...
Edited on Sun Oct-05-03 02:49 PM by tlcandie
Look, if you are into groping or whatever...THAT is YOUR BUSINESS! But if you are going to do something i.e., cheat on your wife, lie, smoke, grope, whatever your personality flaws are then by all means admit it. Be open and honest about it.

I have a brain and I would like to know who you are and what your values, thoughts, intents are towards ALL people, ALL beings and I have a RIGHT to that if you are being paid by the public to represent me in some form or fashion. I would like to be the one to decide how I do or do not feel about you.

If you don't want to admit to it, then don't do it and for heaven's sake, don't run for public office if you aren't willing to fess up to all your flaws and mistakes as a person!

If he had ambitions as a young man to run for public office in his later years, he should have used his brain and not his penis in making his decisions.

The rest is up to the voter and his or her values! It is absolutely absurd that OUR money is spent on campaign issues to SLAM someone or paint someone into the rosey spotlight.

Their lives should be an open book...even if they buy up all the rights to it for over a million bucks years back before getting into the political arena. If you can't open yourself, your wife, your children, your family, friends, buisness connections, financial dealings, etc., then do NOT get into politics!

By all means...once you step into the arena do not whine and yell unfair or dirty politics if you gave them the bait for the flames in the first place!

Why on earth would an intelligent woman who loves her family and children so much open them up to this embarassment and humiliation KNOWING full well the history of her husband in public and behind private doors? Did she even have a say?

I'm wondering IF their marriage will survive all of this down the road or will it only be a shell as many of the Kennedy women have professed to BEARING the heavy weight of their womanizing menfolk while carrying on about their family business for family sake.


EDITED TO ADD: I am in no way being passive about assaults or abuses THAT is not what I was discussing here. :hi:
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 03:06 AM
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29. "Puke politics"...I honestly thought
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 03:07 AM by Piperay
this was referring to rePUKElican politics when I saw the subject line. :shrug: :puke: :puke: :puke: The groper better becareful using that line, I'm sure I am not the only one who associates it with his party.


EDIT: left out a word
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 07:44 AM
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30. This is talking about an L.A. Times investigative report
I applaude the times for this. It has been reported that they lost 1,000 subscriptions when they ran this story. They have not backed off. The L.A. Times is big enough to absorb a 1,000 subscription hit and still survive. I guess that means that a few million people read the story. As was reported in its liberal neighbor to the north, the S.F. Chronicle, Davis is still in for the political fight of his life. Even McClintok is asking Arnold to step down, snakes don't usually bite each other.
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