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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:19 PM
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DoD assumes responsibility for releasing recruiting stats
DoD assumes responsibility for releasing recruiting stats
Individual services no longer authorized to announce numbers at beginning of the month

By Laura Bailey
Times staff writer

The Army and Marine Corps, as they struggle with recruiting shortfalls, will no longer announce their monthly recruiting numbers at the beginning of each month.

Instead, the Defense Department will approve the release of recruiting statistics for all four services. "


http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-892069.php

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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:20 PM
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1. wow, they must be getting worse...
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:22 PM
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2. So, how will they paper over the cracks in the May figures?
Any guesses?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:51 PM
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16. Move the goalposts, ala unemployment.
Needless to say, May was a banner month for recruiting. :D
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:23 PM
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3. Covering up bad news.
Republicans must be getting tired of being told "get to the recruiter's office you chickenshits!"

More government in secret thanks to the Bush corporate cabal.

Covering it up won't help the line units in need of soldiers. This is going to be intereting.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:23 PM
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4. Kicking to avoid Friday news dump syndrome nt
.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:24 PM
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5. we are LOSING the WAR and this will TIP their hand on plans for the DRAFT
unless rummy is gonna shock-n-awe us with his ROBOT armies

peace
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 11:10 PM
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27. No just employ
mercenaries at a 1000 times the cost of a soldier.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:26 PM
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6. In the interest of "war time" morale, since they can't meet the goals
They don't want to exhibit any weakness that would "aid or comfort" the enemy.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:30 PM
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7. That does makes sense
if we really were in a war instead of this 'march for democracy'.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:50 PM
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15. Don't forget, it's the "War on terror" of which Iraq was (is)
only a battle. It has been devised as the endless war, generational, they made that clear from the outset. We are in a terrible bind.

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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 08:08 PM
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17. I agree, it's all about how they look to others.
It's an old game mines bigger than yours. They are worried how this is going to look to their "enemies" and future "enemies".

Sadly the young Republicans are letting them down and causing the US to look weak in the eyes of others. Shame on them! Why do they hate America?


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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:34 PM
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8. I think once you're a chicken, you're always a chicken. They have
to 'control' the situation and are afraid that 'bad' news will let out the secret that very few support them.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:37 PM
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9. "give us one of your childern, or you will give us all of them."
sophie's choice.
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:39 PM
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10. Hiding bad news boys?
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:42 PM
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11. How will services supplement their numbers?
Kids in trouble with the law? Jail time or join up?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 08:14 PM
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19. Think I just read a post yesterday that they are going to employ
militaries from South America. You know, just 'buy' our way out.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 08:28 PM
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20. I had a feeling Laura Bush being put on the Street Gangs issue
was intended to direct these troubled youth into the military.

Watch for that one yet.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 10:37 PM
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26. Will they create a special unit? I bet!! Maybe the grunts for frontline
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:43 PM
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12. kick
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:45 PM
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13. welcome to DU
:toast:

i know a lot of conservatives are PI$$ED at the LIES coming from this regime especially the LIES for WAR.

:hi:

peace
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 08:39 PM
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22. Pissed is not even the word...........
Edited on Fri Jun-03-05 08:55 PM by converted_democrat
pissed, betrayed, and foolish......Just to name a few. Sometime people get confused "oldstyle" conservatives for the people that are trying to hijack their name. I know alot of true "oldstyle" conservatives and they are just as pissed as we are. Freepers are hijacking the conservative name trying to make people believe there are more of them than there really are. The sad thing is that these "oldstyle" conservatives are very hard workers "salt of the Earth" type people that work 80 hours a week and they don't truly realize what is being done in their name. They don't have time to find out the truth. Also these people talk about politics at home just about as well as they talk about sex.The ones that have figured it out are really mad and confused and not sure what to do. We need to actively seek them out, and give them a voice.

Oh, and thank you for the welcome!!!! I love it here.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 07:48 PM
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14. all recruiting stats will now come in Rummyspeak
could we have recruited more troops? You bet!

Does that mean we're not going to win the war? Goodness gracious henny penny!
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 08:11 PM
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18. That both made me laugh...
...and gave me the creeps at the same time.
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 11:50 PM
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32. and if the DoD can't handle the responsibility of recruiting stats...
It will be turned over to the Ministry of Truth. Seriously though, I doubt that recruitment figures would shape Rumsfeld's military strategy very much. He pretty much admitted it when he said something like: You don't go to war with the army you want, you go to war with the army you have.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:29 AM
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33. lol!! That's funny....
You got the Rummy Speak down? You bet! thanks for that...

oh and also, hi and welcome to our friend Converted Democrat in the previous post!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 08:31 PM
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21. Well that's pretty much IT for accuracy, isn't it?....n/t
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:02 AM
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38. My thoughts exactly.
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 08:44 PM
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23. How pathetic our military has become with Bush in charge n/t
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 08:53 PM
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24. Plugging another hole are we?
You can hide those numbers numb fucks but they will still suck.
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jono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 09:15 PM
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25. Nominated!
:kick:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 11:13 PM
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28. So now all we are going to get is the grand total, no more Army or Marines
We will never again hear a breakdown for the various services. Smart kids are joining the Navy and Air Force and they're hoping to make up the shortfalls in total numbers with those figures.

How blatantly obvious can they get?
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 11:19 PM
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29. Anyone remember the "fake this, fake that" thread?
Here's another for the list. Fake recruiting numbers.
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NEDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 11:22 PM
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30. Didn't Kos have a story a while back
that said the selective service would report that they could begin setting up draft boards on or around June 15? Hmmmm....
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 01:32 AM
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34. YES... I am betting they are right on schedule for that
On the bright side, I will be able to help some freepers pack for the war... hey now they can put their money where their mouth is... too bad they chose the draft instead of doing the patriotic thing and actually joining (damn chickenhawks)

Now how many of these outstanding kids will suddenly develop other prioritties?
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 11:27 PM
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31. Time to hammer them with the "What have they got to hide?" meme
Of course, with Rummy, the answer is: everything.
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nightfox02 Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:26 AM
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35. Are you fucking kidding me?
We are turning into the fucking Third Reich people...

This is just scary....

Dems must grow balls and keep them. NEVER AGAIN! We cannot let Nixons and Bush(s) come to power in this country. It is literally killing us. Politics be damned!
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 02:36 AM
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36. Information hasn't been this managed
...since the Soviets were in power.

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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:03 AM
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39. Any bets they "make quota" next reporting period?
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-04-05 11:30 AM
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40. Probably be some secret memo that Boy Scouts are now to be
counted as 'potential' recruits.

Then Rummy can just fold those numbers right in, make everything look so much better.

I mean, if flipping hamburgers is now 'manufacturing', why not?
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