Pope Benedict XVI Condemns Same-Sex Unions

[losdiablosgato]

ROME - Pope Benedict XVI condemned same-sex unions as anarchic "pseudo-matrimony" Monday and reaffirmed the Roman Catholic Church's opposition to abortion.

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Benedict repeatedly referred to marriage as a union between man and woman in an address to a conference of the Diocese of Rome on the role of the family held at St. John Lateran basilica.

He said matrimony was not just a "casual sociological construction" that changed in certain times in history but rather an institution that had its roots "in the most profound essence of the human being."

"The various forms of the dissolution of matrimony today, like free unions, trial marriages and going up to pseudo-matrimonies by people of the same sex, are rather expressions of an anarchic freedom that wrongly passes for true freedom of man," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050606/ap_on_re_eu/pope_1

[cthrumatrix]

1. those is glass houses.................

[whistle]

2. What is this pope's age again?

[Orsino]

63. Stone Age, apparently. n/t

[losdiablosgato]

3. I thought that this was something that needs to be on our radar

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

4. Pope Benedict should worry about his priests banging little kids

and cram the homophobia up his pompous ass.

BTW..FREEDOM in the sense that Pope Ratznazi speaks is best addressed between each person and their God...we don't need Pope Ratznazi spreading bigotry in fear of the human race losing it's freedom.

[mom cat]

48. and the role of the church in protecting them!

[wallwriter]

62. Seriously. Let the old bastard clean his own house first.

[ozymandius]

5. Why am I not surprised?

This Pope condemns same-sex unions. I'm sure he's planning some great canonic treatise on property law.

:eyes:

[Sal316]

6. And in other news...the sun still rises in the east.

Really not surprised Pope Joey said this.

[saigon68]

7. The Rat Man Rambles on

Hey you kids, stay away from that guy in the black dress

[CHIMO]

8. Or

In other words, only nuns may wear wedding bands.

[MojoXN]

9. There's a surprise...

BTW, Ratzinger is 76 or 78 I forget which. Not much time left to put up with him, I'd imagine. Maybe his successor will be someone other than Peter the Roman. See the prophecies of St. Malachy for further information.

MojoXN

[Spazito]

10. LOL, I have to say when I saw the headline...

the thought that came to me is this is as shocking as finding out that bears shit in the woods.

I am waiting for him to actually stop trying to hide and cover up the abuses committed by priests instead of blaming the media for reporting them, now THAT would be a surprise.

[Jack Rabbit]

11. Is Massachusetts going to be invaded by Swiss Guards?

Just wondering.

[sniffa]

18. yes, but onLy by the guards that wanna marry each other

[Beetwasher]

12. The Best Way to Freedom: Say FUCK YOU to the Pope

The Pope can go fuck himself with his pointy fucking hat.

"anarchic freedom"??? What a fucking dimwitted douchebag.

The pope is the mother of ALL douchebags.

And if you're offended by this post? You can also go fuck yourself w/ the popes pointy hat.

[Fire Walk With Me]

28. You'll be banned from SNL if you keep talking like that

Sinead, where are you when we need you.

[saigon68]

64. Go Beet GO !!!!

What a Rant !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sandpiper]

13. Wishful thinking by the Popenfuhrer

He said matrimony was not just a "casual sociological construction" that changed in certain times in history

Actually your Popefulness, that's exactly what it is.

[daleo]

14. Actually it is a sociological construction that changes in history

Whether people like him believe it or not. He should read the Bible sometime and will discover that in that document marriage has included:

- multiple wives.
- arranged marriages.
- incredibly wide age differences.
- surrogate motherhood, via adultery.

That's just what I can think of offhand. Oh, and children must have married their siblings at some point, if the literal account of Adam and Eve is true.

[Gildor Inglorion]

33. Siblings....Abraham and Sarah were half-siblings

Whenever another man wanted her, Abraham would say, "sure, take her; she's just my sister." (Look it up in Genesis!)

:evilgrin:

[wickerwoman]

78. Also incest.

Lot got it on with his daughters after Gomorrah and God didn't seem to have a big problem with it.

[Initech]

15. Somehow, this does not surprise me at all.

Really, it doesnt.

[sniffa]

16. says the Leader of a pseudo-country

he aLready condemned them when he first put on the hat. why is this news?

[wicket]

17. he's such an expert on matrimony, isn't he?

:eyes:

[murray hill farm]

19. Is this in the same category as...

"Is the pope catholic" or "does a bear shit in the woods"? Of course he condemns same sex unions...it is his job..ha! Would anyone expect him to do otherwise.?

[truthpusher]

20. Pope Benedict XVI Condemns Same-Sex Unions

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050606/ap_on_re_eu/pope_1

Pope Benedict XVI Condemns Same-Sex Unions
By NICOLE WINFIELD, Associated Press Writer
23 minutes ago

Pope Benedict XVI condemned same-sex unions as anarchic "pseudo-matrimony" Monday and reaffirmed the Roman Catholic Church's opposition to abortion.

Benedict repeatedly referred to marriage as a union between man and woman in an address to a conference of the Diocese of Rome on the role of the family held at St. John Lateran basilica.

He said matrimony was not just a "casual sociological construction" that changed in certain times in history but rather an institution that had its roots "in the most profound essence of the human being."

"The various forms of the dissolution of matrimony today, like free unions, trial marriages and going up to pseudo-matrimonies by people of the same sex, are rather expressions of an anarchic freedom that wrongly passes for true freedom of man," he said.

(snip)

Children, he said, were the fruit of marriage and reflected God's love for man.

"From here it becomes all the more clear how contrary it is to human love, to the profound vocation of man and woman, to systematically close their union to the gift of life, and even worse to suppress or tamper with the life that is born," he said.

link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050606/ap_on_re_eu/pope_1

[whistle]

21. dupe below

[aden_nak]

22. /shocked

[Sandpiper]

23. Delete

[sui generis]

24. and another message for the pope:

my body, and my life belong to me. Not to you or your fucking church or your medieval ideas.

If you want the fruit of my labor in our mutual societies, then you will have to do more than just take from me, because I owe you nothing.

You will never, ever be able to put the toothpaste back in the tube, Ratzi, and you are deluded and out of touch if you think you can. That, ultimately will be your downfall, and the downfall of your church if you don't change your evil fucking ways.

[swimboy]

30. Your message to Pope

Heroic and Eloquent. Thank you sincerely.

[Gildor Inglorion]

34. Belated welcome to DU, swimboy!

:hi:

[Freedom_from_Chains]

25. Great!! Another master of doublespeak, just what we need.

"expressions of an anarchic freedom that wrongly passes for true freedom of man"

Not Freedom = Freedom
Freedom = Not Freedom

[Zhade]

26. Wow, Ratzinger continues to be a bigot?

Not the guy who covered up child rape - say it ain't so!

Well, Catholic DUers, what are your thoughts? Surely you don't agree with this man's bigotry, right? I can think of many of you who definitely don't.

I'd like to think EVERY Catholic DUer disagrees with the new Pope on this - and will make their disagreement known, rather than enabling the continuing sanctioned bigotry of the RCC.

Here's your chance to show your commitment to equality and love for your fellow humans trump official, backward church doctrine. I'm all ears.

[TankLV]

73. Don't hold your breath waiting.

They are all waiting to accuse us of "catholic bashing" again.

Sick priorities, some DU'rs.

[cap]

80. the Jesuit magazine America

has asked that the next Pope consider same sex marriages. It just doesnt get the publicity these days that the RW does.

[CatholicEdHead]

81. And they pressured to get the editor removed

for that and other debates. While still Cardianal Ratingzer, his view was to only give the church view, no others, no weighing of issues like America magazine did.

[cap]

87. it's time for the Catholic left to band together...

the Jesuits have survived for centuries...they will get through this. I am hoping that they start a discussion of Opus Dei's use of "mortification"... (beatings, wearing spiked belts, sleeping on boards) a nice salacious practice ... torture sells.

I think if we can generate bad press for the Opus Dei nutcases then we diminish some of the instruments of Ratzi control of the church.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

27. Sieg Heil!

Fuck you, Ratzi Nazi.

[Politicub]

29. Booooo!

I wish he would just slither back to his chambers and STFU. If he knows how much harm his rhetoric brings to LGBT families, he is truly craven and evil.

[Benhurst]

31. Isn't that just like a man! Always ready to "do it;" but when it comes

to marriage, he's just not up to making a commitment. What's a poor altar boy to do?

[LostInAnomie]

32. Hooray! The former Nazi Youth is lecturing on morality.

Tell us Holy Father, since you were so successful in your Nazi Youth Squad and in protecting pedophiles, what is the best path to live a moral life?

[truebrit71]

35. Unless it's between a priest and an altar boy...

...then you just deny it for years...

Hypocrite...

[YankeyMCC]

36. What a leader

Leading the flocks right to a nice comfortable spot where they already are.</sarcasm>

Leadership means helping people move forward. This guy just wants to keep people in the dark.

[Massachusetts]

37. Pope Benedict XVI condemned same-sex unions as anarchic "pseudo-matrimony

I'M STRAIGHT AND catholic(not that theres anything wrong with that), and I'm sick and tired of hearing these OLD WHITE MALE HYPOCRITES!

Imagine there's no heaven,
It's easy if you try,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine all the people
living for today...

Imagine there's no countries,
It isn't hard to do,
Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
Imagine all the people
living life in peace...

Imagine no possessions,
I wonder if you can,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of men,
imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...

You may say I'm a dreamer,
but I'm not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.. - John Lennon

[slackmaster]

38. WTF? I am shocked, SHOCKED!

I though the Roman Catholic Church supported gay rights. Another DUer told me so once.

:dunce:

[JVS]

39. What a shocking surprise!

[liberaliraqvet26]

40. What about Cardinal Law...

oh wait he got promoted. Leave it to papanazi.

[geniph]

41. In other news: Fire - HOT! Mexico - Full Of Mexicans!

Pope Ratzinger restates his obvious bigotry!

I'm shocked, I tell ya, shocked.

[damntexdem]

42. Benny wouldn't know 'the most profound essence of humanity' ...

if it bit him on the testicles.

[Obamarama]

43. Perhaps sackcloth & ashes are just around the corner???

If he keeps pace with his pithy pronouncements regarding his archaic views of morality, the sackcloth & ashes look might just be the next new hot look on the fashion runways of Milan & Rome.

Methinks Herr Benedictus needs to pay more attention to his child-molesting cadre of priets and less attention to whom I love.

[0007]

44. Aren't there poor that need attention, aren't there the sick and

homeless that need more attention than this drivel? The world knows where the Catholics stand on this issue. Why keep bringing it up?

[gtar100]

75. Why bring it up? Political points.

The true agenda of Pope Ratzo is being well articulated. Just another homophobic, neo-nazi, right-wing, power-monger in a position of high prominance in this day and age. Nothing new here.

But seriously, wouldn't it be interesting if he got an earful of feedback from the Catholics who actually have a real life and go to church on Sundays? It would burst his bubble of unquestioned authority.

[0007]

79. Prediction just in.......Pope Ratzo will get his bubble busted soon.

He'll soon be just like the mannequin that just caught a dummy.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

45. I'm going to start having gay sex just to piss off the Religious Right

You can consider that a "WARNING" to the gay community.

On the other hand, I suppose, the mere threat of seeing me naked might signal the end of homosexuality as we know it.

[Chicago Democrat]

47. Hey, I'll show you the ropes, wanna come down to Chicago...

Its real easy.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

57. Show me the ropes?

Don't you have some kind of introductory class?

[Chicago Democrat]

59. Yup, its the Gay Trolley! Ding ding! next stop... magical fun times

:)

[Raster]

69. Don't forget his FREE toaster just for signing up. Upon completion of

your first suckcessful blowjob you get a Cuisinart.

[gtar100]

84. Shoot! If I had only known sooner, darn it.

I didn't know there were door prizes or I might have 'chosen' differently.

[Chicago Democrat]

46. Chicago Democrat Condemns Pope for Meddling in Politics

and wearing a dress!


hahah

[Ilsa]

49. "This mother of two condemns pedophile priests and

those who cover for them or harbor them."

[bleedingheart]

50. why am I not suprised?

oh yeah now I remember...it is because it has been the same stance of the Catholic Church for years.

[Strawman]

51. Condems love and is silent on war, poverty, and disease

More reasons I'm glad I'm no longer a Catholic.

[Catfight]

56. Indeed, don't love someone, you must oppress and hate one another. No

new message there from a corrupt institution of bigots and hypocrites. How can someone like him be even compassionate to the human plight of life? He's been pampered and judging people all his life.

[otohara]

52. Closed Eyes to Years of Catholic Priests

oh never mind!

[HockeyMom]

54. But the true evil people of the world are

gays, the unmarried, birth control users, abortionists, adulterers, and the divorced.

[Solly Mack]

53. He needs to get a life

[mitchum]

55. How in the hell does he even know the first thing about matrimony?

[warrior1]

58. Hey pope

Fuck you.

[usregimechange]

60. Time for the Pope to sign another compact with the Nazis?

[DenaliDemocrat]

61. Sam e sex marraiges are an abomination

everyone should just molest teenaged boys instead!!!! I mean really people, why bring a sandwich to a buffet???

[Imagine My Surprise]

65. Well, I didn't expect the hateful old closet case...

to offer up a same-sex mass. (even though John Boswell proved that they once DID.)

[Robeson]

66. The same church which promotes overpopulating an already...

...strained planet is against gay marriages? Gee, what a surprise.

[Zerex71]

67. Another useless old bureaucrat trying to make himself desperately relevant

and failing miserably at it.

[Cronus Protagonist]

68. "anarchic freedom" - really?

an·ar·chic Audio pronunciation of anarchic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-ärkk) or an·ar·chi·cal (-k-kl)
adj.

1.
1. Of, like, or supporting anarchy: anarchic oratory.
2. Likely to produce or result in anarchy.
2. Lacking order or control

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=anarchic


According to the prelate, freedom must be limited, put in order, controlled - George said something about that as well....

"There ought to be limits to freedom." - G. W. Bush

So now the final world order is becoming complete.

Freedom??

Buh Bye


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(America. Hello? Is anybody paying attention?)


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[Betty]

70. Meet the new pope

same as the old pope.

yawn......

[dArKeR]

71. Pope Tells Journalists To Search For 'Truth'

Pope Tells Journalists To Search For 'Truth'
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/23/AR2005042301372.html?nav=rss_world/europe

The Vatican has sought the intervention of the U.S. State Department to declare Pope Benedict XVI immune from a sexual abuse lawsuit filed here, according to court documents.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3201751

Vatican said Monday there was no investigation under way of allegations that the Mexican founder of a conservative religious order sexually abused seminarians
http://www.winktv.com/x466.xml?URL=http://localhost/APWIREFEED/d8a8vi600.xml

Vatican Reportedly Clears Priest
Vaca, a former priest, is one of at least eight men in Mexico and the United States who have accused the Rev. Marcial Maciel Degollado of molesting them when they were teenage seminary students in the 1940s, '50s and '60s.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/22/AR2005052200966.html?nav=rss_world/europe

Despite the horrific drumbeat of child molestation revelations, however, sensible Catholics hoping for a more transparent and less sexually repressed church shouldn't hold their breath. The new pope is not only a longtime leader of vicious church attacks on "evil" gays, he also has shamefully blamed the molestation scandal on the media.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/thenation/20050524/cm_thenation/20050606scheer0524_1

Vatican Accused of Child Molestation Cover-Up
http://atheism.about.com/b/a/098516.htm

Survivors Network says the overwhelming majority of its members have never sued and are too traumatized to do so. They say they adopted their tactics after bishops promised for years to take action against guilty clergy, then never did.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7463011/page/2

Pope's Nazi past
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7576505 /

[lakeguy]

72. f him seriously!

i'll take same sex unions over child molestation any day.

[Mythsaje]

74. With all due respect for his Pope-ness.

He can go take a long hike off a short pier, whistling dixie all the way.

[pissed_American]

76. MY Pedophile priest is against gay marriage !!

Who`da thunk it ??

[saigon68]

85. kick

[Chicago Democrat]

77. Pope Benedict is being a dick!

I'm pissed!

[martymar64]

82. Fuck the Pope!

Get this Opus Dei Douchebag out of there! He's no better than Torquemanda

[progressoid]

83. This isn't news - this is business as usual

[Deja Q]

86. Go away, Smeghead XVI.

[DFWJock]

88. Thank goodness

the pope is finally focusing on important issues.
Oh, by the way, is your fan club still raping children?

[Stuckinthebush]

89. Stuckinthbush Condemns Pope B-16

:eyes:

[leesa]

90. And yet he's begging Condie to get him off the hook for covering

up sex abuse. Oh yeah, he's got a lot of credibility!

[bpeale]

91. Bite me!

the pope can kiss my big fat white ass! after defending all those pedophile priests. he has some nerve!