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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:44 AM
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NYT: Latest Confirmed Nominee (Brown) Sees Slavery in Liberalism
Latest Confirmed Nominee Sees Slavery in Liberalism
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: June 9, 2005


WASHINGTON, June 8 - Janice Rogers Brown, the African-American daughter of Alabama sharecroppers who was confirmed Wednesday to the federal appeals court here, often invokes slavery in describing what she sees as the perils of liberalism.

"In the heyday of liberal democracy, all roads lead to slavery," she has warned in speeches. Society and the courts have turned away from the founders' emphasis on personal responsibility, she has argued, toward a culture of government regulation and dependency that threatens fundamental freedoms.

"We no longer find slavery abhorrent," she told the conservative Federalist Society a few years ago. "We embrace it." She explained in another speech, "If we can invoke no ultimate limits on the power of government, a democracy is inevitably transformed into a kleptocracy - a license to steal, a warrant for oppression."

To her critics, such remarks are evidence of extremism. This week, some Senate Democrats have even singled her out as the most objectionable of President Bush's more than 200 judicial nominees, citing her criticism of affirmative action and abortion rights but most of all her sweeping denunciations of New Deal legal precedents that enabled many federal regulations and social programs - developments she has called "the triumph of our socialist revolution."

Her friends and supporters say her views of slavery underpin her judicial philosophy. It was her study of that history, they say, combined with her evangelical Christian faith and her self-propelled rise from poverty that led her to abandon the liberal views she learned from her family....


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/09/politics/09brown.html?oref=login
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:47 AM
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1. WHAT???....
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:47 AM
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2. Slavery is freedom
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 07:48 AM by SpiralHawk
Hate is love
War is peace
Lies are truth
Uncle Tom was really pretty cool after all

Big BushCo loves you.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:47 AM
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3. What a stupid, stupid woman. If it weren't for liberals, the abolition
of slavery would never have happened.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:51 AM
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6. And, of course, it was those conservatives
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 07:51 AM by Spinzonner
who passed the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, Affirmative Action programs that ensured equal opportunity.

Clarence Thomas in drag ...
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:47 AM
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4. What a fucking nut case!
:crazy:
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:49 AM
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5. kleptocracy - a license to steal, a warrant for oppression."
Hmm. Who does this remind me of?
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:52 AM
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7. Lessee...she helped California save a "ton" of money
by defending the state against paying women less than men....

Hmmm...so working for less is NOT a move toward slavery? And the government taking your labor for less is NOT a kleptocracy?

She's bright, all right; decided to go for the bucks the easy way - suck up to evil bastards with lots of them!
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:53 AM
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8. (long, slow whistle)
Nutty.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:54 AM
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9. The right sees limited government a good thing only if it limits social
causes. It is OK to them to spend trillions on the military industrial complex and trillions on the oil industry and trillions on other corporations but let one cent be spent on a poor person and that must be limited.

Also, limited government does not apply to intrusion of fundamental Christians into our lives.

Conservatives are basically lying greedy hypocrites who borrow and spend on their friends and tax the lower classes and cut taxes on their friends.

The right wants conservative judges to feed their greed and their desire for a theocracy.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:55 AM
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10. It's not the fact that she holds this opinion that makes her unfit
It's that, like the rest of them, she's a fucking hypocrite. They only think "small government," is good when it pertains to anything that doesn't fit into their culural supremacist, superstitious, patriarchal notion of "order."

When it comes to companies being on their own, drug laws, Constitution-gutting police state laws, consumer choice (buying drugs from Canada), a reasonable military, abortion rights, unfunded national school programs, and letting corporations write the laws, and upholding the faith of Mammon Jesus, they LOVE big government.

There's a case to be made for federalism -- and federalism toward freedom. The fact is, however, that the GOP and the extreme right have their own "social order," that they want to engineer.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 07:56 AM
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11. Taxes are slavery in reverse
The skilled prop up the weak.

/stupid nutcase
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:26 AM
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12. Again, the MSM wait until it's too late to report the facts
This kind of discussion of Brown was nowhere to be seen during the YEARS that the Dems kept her off the bench, especially during the nuclear option crisis. The result is that the Dems who wanted to continue blocking her appointment looked like partisan nut cases and wing nut poseurs like Frist looked like they were standing on principle.

Disgusting...
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:45 AM
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29. But.......
I heard a rumor that Howard Dean said something bad about Republicans!!!!!
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:27 AM
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13. Gee, and the seven Dems who joined the seven 'Pugs
Allowed this abhorent, pathetic excuse for a jurist become a judge in order to do what. . .? Preserve the filibuster only for extraordinary circumstances. Well, looks like that extraordinary circumstance, along with a couple of others, just took the bench.

I'm so sick of spineless Dems.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:31 AM
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14. How brave of the Times to print this article the day after the vote.
It's meaningless. Maybe they can reprint it the day after she's confirmed on the USSC.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:43 AM
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16. That's what I thought, too! Cowards! nt
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:33 AM
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15. I wish she could go back to 1840
and try being a real slave. Then this stupid stupid woman would understand the foolishness of her arguments.
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oly Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:55 AM
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17. Thanks to the compromisers in the senate, we 're stuck with this
Thanks to the compromisers in the senate, we 're stuck with this friggin' nutcase for 40-50 years. She'll probably end up on the supreme court. WTF were they thinking?
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:11 AM
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18. is she getting to reframe the concept of slavery?
WTF?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:14 AM
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19. Don't Corporate-Loving, Low Wage Advocating, Free-Marketer "Conservatives"
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 09:14 AM by cryingshame
come closer to perpetrating slavery than the Worker-Protecting, Living Wage, Family and Environment Protecting Liberals?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:14 AM
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20. Just another "I got mine" GOPer
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:26 AM
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21. ...And THIS is why we should've let 'em go 'nuclear'....and the Dems
should've walked out. This is what we've "won": the rubber-stamping of nutjobs like JRB, who should NEVER hold such a position...as long as we don't protest a nominee, the Repubs will "allow" us to protest.
Doesn't sound right, does it??
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:02 AM
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25. The Surrender Was So Dems Could Retain the Appearance of Having Power
I suppose that is worth something. At least the media will talk to
Senate Dems occasionally (though they spin everything we say beyond
recognition). House Dems haven't been heard from in years, because they
are totally shut out.

The nuclear option would have formalized the one-party state. Dems
would have walked, they would have changed the rules so they could
go on without us, and that would have been the last anybody heard
of the Democratic party.

This sucks, but the alternative would not have been any better.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:49 AM
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22. So let me get this straight...
Here is a black woman who was the the daughter of share croppers spouting about how Liberalism causing slavery...

The same liberalism that gave jobs and fed people during the depression.
The same liberalism that helped the farmers, during the depression, sell their product at livable prices.
The same liberalism that gave rise to unions.
The same liberalism that promoted CIVIL RIGHTS.
The same liberalism that gave BLACK the right to vote.
The same liberalism that gave WOMEN the right to vote.
Shall I go on?

With all of these things in mind, I find it easy to think of slavery(heavy heavy sarcasm)

As I found out yesterday on the Randi Roads show, this moron brown has been appointed to the same court that were the ones that pushed so hard for the Clinton impeachment investigations and we all know how important that was.

This woman is a colossal jackass.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:55 AM
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23. She is flat out INSANE. Meanwhile, we should be "nicer" to the repubs.
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 10:04 AM by Justitia
Or so I am told...by Joe Biden, Barney Frank, Steny Hoyer, Gov Richardson, etc., etc.

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 10:14 AM
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24. and I though Plantation were the purest form of laissez faire capitalism
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:17 AM
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26. She needs to read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair. Slavery for the
working man long before there was "liberalism."
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:23 AM
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27. Okay, now we have two of the judges that
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 11:23 AM by Kool Kitty
a filibuster was supposed to stop. Is there any doubt that Pryor will be confirmed? No. So what was the point of all the protest and blocking? These were the judges that were supposed to be stopped. I am missing something here? Just what was the point, to show that the Dems say "no, no, no" until it's "yes"?
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 11:41 AM
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28. She's nuts, folks. Loony. Flat-out set in stone certifiable.
Keep her as far away from your children as possible.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 12:10 PM
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30. Wall-Mart is slavery, not fucking Medicaid!!!!!!
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dean_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:28 PM
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31. Walter Williams and a slew of conservatives...
have been making this argument for years, that taxes are tantamount to modern slavery. Just because they happen to be a particular skin color doesn't make it sound any less ignorant.

It did mention that Owens is an "amateur poet." With her lyrical ability, and John Ashcroft's musical talent, maybe they can get together, and form the worst songwriting-duo that ever existed. It will at least keep them occupied.
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