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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:53 PM
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Latin States Shun U.S. Plan to Watch Over Democracy (Condi loses again)


> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/09/politics/09oas.html


June 9, 2005
Latin States Shun U.S. Plan to Watch Over Democracy
By JOEL BRINKLEY

WASHINGTON, June 8 - In a sharp setback for the Bush administration's Latin America policy, the Organization of American States rejected a United States plan on Tuesday to create a committee to monitor the exercise of democracy in the hemisphere.

Instead, the organization agreed, at a meeting in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., on a declaration that attaches equal or greater emphasis to attacking poverty because of what it calls "the interdependent relationship of democracy and social and economic development."

The organization, which represents 34 states of the Western Hemisphere, voted to approve the resolution at midnight on Tuesday, but the language was not completed until Wednesday by staff members who lingered after the formal meeting.

The United States professed to be satisfied with the final resolution, even though it bears little resemblance to the proposal the State Department introduced last week. The resolution does not include the element that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice insisted it must have, a committee that would investigate troubled democracies.........
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:55 PM
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1. Memo from Latinos to Chimp
Smack down, take that byatch
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 01:59 PM
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2. I am all in favor of Condi's insistence that there must be a...
committee that would investigate OUR troubled democracy!!
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:01 PM
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3. They've lived through our not-so-secret wars
Chile, Guatamala, Panama, Columbia, Haiti, Cuba, Honduras...etc.

They know our intentions.

I dare say they even know the difference between a Republican and a Democrat.

Congrats OAS.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:15 PM
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4. Professor discovers diplomacy is more than just an academic term paper
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:21 PM
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5. she is discovering that playing with the big boys is no cake walk.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:22 PM
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6. As said by "I was an economic hitman'
LEAVE THEM ALONE!

ENOUGH!
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:29 PM
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7. I enjoy reading
articles like this. The US should get used to hearing "No", many times a day. It's important that they get a good dose of reality, since they have such a hard time with it.

Too bad the rest of the world has to be the one to do it. "Reality begins at home".

I'm encouraged that the C America and S American countries are finally standing up to the US. They know that by banding together, they can actually be a force to be reckoned with. It's hard to believe, but the US really is not that strong. Look at where the assets lie: South America is rich with petroleum reserves. Here we're literally the dependent, needy one, and we make it seem like they should be the beggar. No so any more.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 02:38 PM
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8. The arrogance! Connie Mack wants to go and look Chavez in the eye
Mack said he saw President Hugo Chavez of Venezuela as "a growing threat" with his attempts to undermine and interrupt freedom, and cut diplomatic ties with the United States by contracting to supply oil to Cuba in return for Castro's supplying Venezuela with doctors, teachers, and military aid.

"It's a dangerous relationship," he said. "Chavez now has his own type of Al-Jazeera network to spread propaganda and is speaking with Iran about nuclear weapons. Chavez is a leftist, anti-American dictator. I believe the people in Venezuela want freedom, not a leftist government."

Mack said the United States was the only country in this hemisphere capable of refining the kind of crude oil Venezuela produces.

Mack said he would be working through Congress to make sure Chavez' threats were minimized, and planned to make a trip to Venezuela very soon.

"I want to go and look Chavez in the eye," he said.

http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=14665397&BRD=2256&PAG=461&dept_id=455823&rfi=6

Ha! If Chavez is in a good mood, Connie may be granted an interview with an undersecretary of an undersecretary.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:07 PM
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10. Let's see, among many things that Chavez has done....
for his people is rapidly increase the literacy in his country. Ask the average Venezuelan if they think he is a dictator. Venezuelans freely and democratically elected Chavez. Notice Mack says "leftist" twice. If these fu**ers really cared about getting rid of dictatorships, they would have gotten rid of Saddam 20 years ago, which was about the same time that Rumsfield was pictured shaking hands with Hussein. All that BushCo cares about is spreading unfettered capitalism!

www.handsoffvenezuela.org

Bravo to the Latin Americans for standing up to these chicken hawk bullies!
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 03:00 PM
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9. ¡La espada de Bolivar está viajando a través de América latina!
:woohoo:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:18 PM
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11. This is about as stupid sounding as "US to forgive debt"
Wow they do live in some other world don' they?
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:27 PM
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12. Unfortunately, even if they live in another world....
they go home to it at the end of the day and leave the world behind with their policies!
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:35 PM
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13. Condi and her husband Bu$h know nothing of a democracy.
Except for how to destroy one. Latin states are smart for ignoring our dictator and his hench persons.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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