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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:40 PM
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New documents link Cuban militant Posada Carriles to airliner bombing
MIAMI -- Cuban militant exile Luis Posada Carriles said shortly before the deadly 1976 bombing of a Cuban airliner that he and others ``are going to hit a Cuban airplane,'' according to a declassified CIA document released Thursday.

The 1976 cable quotes an unnamed former Venezuelan official known as a ``usually reliable reporter'' as saying that Posada made the remark following a $1,100-a-plate fund-raising dinner in Caracas for Orlando Bosch, a leader of Cuban exiles opposed to the communist government of President Fidel Castro.

The CIA documents says that during the dinner, Bosch made the comment that his organization was ``looking good'' after the Sept. 21, 1976 assassination in Washington of Chilean Foreign Minister Orlando Letelier and that ``we are going to try something else.''

``A few days following the fund-raising dinner, Posada was overhead to say that 'we are going to hit a Cuban airplane' and that 'Orlando has the details,''' the CIA cable says, adding that the identities of ``we'' and ``Orlando'' were not certain.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-0609posadacarriles,0,1104233.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:44 PM
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1. And a pimple on the B*sh Family butt begins to fester.
nt
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:08 PM
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7. cheap labor around the world will pop that family pimple at low cost
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:50 PM
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2. Sorry we don't extradite freedom fighters to
tyrannical governments...

:sarcasm:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 07:29 AM
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12. a terrorists in the mists of a theocracy?
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 04:56 PM
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3. And the bush** administration doesn't support terrorists. Right.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 05:07 PM
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5. .....and we don't negotiate with terrorist organization and now we
are negotiating with the Sunni insurgency.

Ever hear of Orlando Bosch.......

That declaration notwithstanding, dozens and dozens of terrorist attacks are attributed to Orlando Bosch and the gangs he led. Perhaps this "black list" will refresh the memory of George W. Bush’s close collaborator.

January 8, 1968: A bomb explodes in a suitcase in Havana

January 25, 1968: Bombs placed in various commercial establishments in the United States

February 1, 1968: Mexican Consulate in Miami bombed

February 2, 1968: Bomb placed in British consul’s house in Miami

March 12, 1968: Bomb placed in restaurant belonging to Cuban immigrants in the United States

March 13, 1968: Bomb placed in Chilean Consulate in the United States

April 2, 1968: Bomb placed in pharmaceutical company in United States

April 22, 1968: Bomb placed in Mexican Consulate, United States

April 22, 1968: Bomb placed in Spanish Tourism Office in the United States

May 5, 1968: British ship Greenwood bombed in the United States

May 25, 1968: Bomb placed aboard the Japanese ship Aroka Maru in the United States

June 21, 1968: Bomb placed in Spanish Tourism Office in the United States

June 23, 1968: Bomb placed in Mexican Tourism Office in the United States

June 27, 1968: Bomb explodes in the garage of Mexican consul to the United States

July 4, 1968: Bomb placed in Cuban Consulate in Canada

July 4, 1968: Bomb placed in Canadian Tourism Office in United States

July 7, 1968: Bomb placed in Japanese Tourism Office in the United States

July 11, 1968: Bomb explodes near Cuban Mission to the UN, causing damage to the Yugoslavian mission

July 11, 1968: Bomb placed aboard the Japanese ship Michagesan Maru in Mexico

July 14, 1968: Bomb placed in Mexican Tourism Office in the United States

July 15, 1968: Bomb discovered in a French government office in the United States

July 16, 1968: Bomb discovered in the Mexican Consulate, United States

July 17, 1968: Bomb placed in Cuban diplomat’s home in the United States

July 19, 1968: Bomb placed in French Tourism Office in the United States

July 19, 1968: Bomb placed in Shell Petroleum Company building in England

July 19, 1968: Bomb placed in Japanese travel agency in the United States

July 26, 1968: Bomb placed in Mexican Tourism Office in the United States

July 31, 1968: Bomb placed in British Consulate in United States

August 3, 1968: Bomb placed in British bank in the United States

August 5, 1968: Bomb placed in offices of the Communist Party in the United States

August 7, 1968: Bomb placed aboard the Bahamas ship Caribbean Venture in the United States

August 9, 1968: Mexican representatives in the United States bombed

August 9, 1968: Bomb placed in Mexican consul’s home in Miami

September 11, 1968: Bomb placed aboard British ship in Mexico

September 16, 1968: Bomb explodes aboard the Spanish ship Satrustegui in Puerto Rico

September 16, 1968: Bazooka attack on Polish ship in Miami

September 17, 1968: Bomb placed aboard Mexican airplane in United States

September 19, 1968: Bomb placed in home of Mexican consul to the United States

October 18, 1968: Bomb placed in Canadian travel agency

October 20, 1968: Gas bomb placed in a theater where a Cuban actress was performing

October 24, 1968: Attempts to assassinate Cuban ambassador to the UN

July 26, 1969: Bomb placed in Mexican Tourism Office in the United States

August 6, 1969: Bomb placed in British-owned Shell Oil offices in the United States

August 6, 1969: Bomb placed in Air France offices in the United States

In 1972, Bosch traveled to Chile with his friend Guillermo Novo Sampol and puts himself at the disposal of General Augusto Pinochet’s fascist junta. He subsequently participated in a series of attacks on prominent Chileans in exile.

In 1974, Bosch created the terrorist organization called Cuban Action, with the support of the Chilean junta and Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza’s secret police.

January 21, 1974: Bomb placed in Cuban diplomatic office in Canada

January 21, 1974: Bomb placed in Cuban diplomatic office in Argentina

January 21, 1974: Bomb placed in Cuban diplomatic office in Peru

January 21, 1974: Bomb placed in Cuban embassy in Mexico

February 13, 1974: Bomb placed in Cuban embassy in Madrid

April 4, 1974: Prensa Latina representatives bombed in Mexico

October 1, 1974: Bomb placed in Panamanian embassy in Caracas

October 30, 1974: Bomb placed in Venezuelan-Cuban Friendship Institute in Venezuela

November 11, 1974: Bomb placed in hotel where Cuban officials were staying in the United States

March 19, 1974: Assassination of General Carlos Prats, former officer of the Chilean Armed Forces, and his wife, in Argentina

May 10, 1975: Attempt in Rome to kill Bernardo Leighton, vice president of the Chilean Democratic Party in exile, and his wife

July 1975: Shots fired on the resident of a Cuban official in the United States

August 3, 1975: Assassination attempt on Cuban Ambassador Emilio Aragonés, in Argentina

November 17, 1975: Bomb placed in Venezuelan tourism company, in Venezuela

November 30, 1975: Bomb placed in USSR commercial office in Mexico

March 1976: Bosch is arrested by Costa Rican police for suspicion of trying to assassinate exiled Chilean leader Andrés Pascal Allende

September 21, 1976: Assassination of Orlando Letelier, former Chilean ambassador to the United States, and his secretary Ronnie Moffitt

In 1976, Bosch founded the Command of United Revolutionary Organizations (CORU), most of whose members had worked for the CIA. He ordered another series of attacks.

June 6, 1976: Bomb placed in Cuban diplomatic mission at the UN

July 1, 1976: Bomb placed in Cuban-Costa Rican cultural center in Costa Rica

July 8, 1976: Bomb placed in Cuban mission in Spain

September 7, 1976: Bomb placed in Cubana de Aviación warehouse in Kingston, Jamaica

July 10, 1976: Bomb placed in Cubana de Aviación office in Barbados

July 11, 1976: Bomb placed in Air Panama offices in Colombia

July 23, 1976: Attempt to kidnap Cuban consul in Mérida, Mexico, resulting in the death of Cuban fishing technician D’Artagnan Díaz Díaz

September 8, 1976: Kidnapping of two Cuban diplomats in Argentina

September 9, 1976: Bomb placed in Guyanese embassy in Trinidad and Tobago

September 18, 1976: Bomb placed in Cubana de Aviación office in Panama

October 6, 1976: Mid-flight explosion of a Cubana de Aviación passenger plane, causing the deaths of all 73 persons on board

As a result of the plane bombing, Bosch was arrested in Venezuela and accused of masterminding the horrible crime. Nevertheless, from his cell he continued to dream up and order other attacks, against Venezuelan targets, in order to pressure the Venezuelan justice system to let him go.

March 30, 1977: Bomb placed in Venezuelan Consulate in Puerto Rico

August 30, 1977: Bomb placed aboard a Venezuelan airplane in Miami

December 23, 1977: Bomb placed in Viasa airline office, United States

December 30, 1977: Bomb placed in Venezuelan Consulate in Puerto Rico

In 1978, also from his cell, he ordered attacks on Mexican interests, in response to the measures taken by that government following the death of Cuban fishing technician D’Artagnan Díaz Díaz.

February 7, 1978: Bomb placed in Mexican Consulate in the United States

February 7, 1978: Bomb placed aboard the Mexican ship Azteca, resulting in two deaths and seven injuries

Later, still from his cell, he directed and maintained the actions of Omega-7, consisting of a long chain of terrorist attacks.

September 9, 1978: Bomb placed in Cuban mission at the UN

October 5, 1978: Bomb placed across from Madison Square Garden, where Cuban boxers were supposed to fight

October 6, 1978: Bomb placed in offices of Girasol tourism company, belonging to the Socialist Party of Puerto Rico

October 6, 1978: Bomb placed in offices of Antillana tourism company of Puerto Rico

October 6, 1978: Bomb placed in offices of the Record Public Service company, owned by a Cuban immigrant in Puerto Rico

October 23, 1978: Bomb placed in La Prensa newspaper in the United States

November 18, 1978: Bomb threats made against TWA, due to its flights to Cuba

December 28, 1978: Bomb placed in office of Varadero Travel in Puerto Rico

December 29, 1978: Bomb placed in Cuban mission at the UN

December 29, 1978: Bomb placed in Lincoln Center, New York

March 26, 1979: Bomb placed in TWA offices at New York’s JFK Airport

March 26, 1979: Bomb placed in office of Weehawken company of New Jersey, headed by Cuban Eulalio J. Negrín, a member of the Committee of 75, which was negotiating with Cuba

April 4, 1979: Murder of Carlos Muñoz Varela, member of the Antonio Maceo Brigade and director of Varadero Travel in Puerto Rico

November 25, 1979: Eulalio J. Negrín murdered

September 11, 1980: Murder of Félix García Rodríguez, Cuban diplomat to the United Nations

In 1987, thanks to Otto Reich, Bosch was freed and entered the United States, where he was granted asylum and even a presidential pardon.

By the start of the 1980s, the Cuban American National Foundation (CANF) was in existence, and its leader, Jorge Mas Canosa, directed counterrevolutionary and terrorist attacks.

Once he took refuge in the United States, Bosch continued advising the most fanatical elements of the Miami mafia. Even within the terrorist gang directed by Luis Posada Carriles that planned to assassinate Fidel Castro in Panama, there are several of the old terrorist’s friends. Gaspar Jiménez Escobedo, Pedro Remón and Guillermo Novo Sampol were guilty of numerous terrorist actions against Cuba and other countries, among them the machine-gunning of Félix García Rodríguez in New York; the killing of Cuban fishing technician D’Artagnan Díaz Díaz by terrorist Gaspar Jiménez Escobedo; and the kidnapping of two diplomats in Argentina.

What a bad memory Mr. Reich has, after so many years of collaboration with the CIA and the CANF!
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:59 PM
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18. Bosch is implicated in the declassifieds docs along with Posada
as his accomplice. But Poppy Bush pardoned Bosch and he walks the streets of Miami a free man. A few years ago in an interview with the Miami New Times he was asked if he bombed the Cubana airliner and he again made the statement that 'there were no innocent people on that plane.' Bosch and Posada, two POS the likes of which the world has never seen--but these two cretins are the MiamiGusano's heros.

<clips>

...(328) Bosch was interviewed by the committee in Cuartel San Carlos prison in Venezuela. He is charged with complicity in the October 6, 1975, bombing of a Cubana Airlines plane which resulted in the deaths of 73 people. (11) Although denying involvement in the airplane bombing, Bosch said he approved of it. (12) Claiming terrorism a necessary evil in fighting Castro, Bosch stated, "You have to fight violence with violence. At times you cannot avoid hurting innocent people." (13)

http://cuban-exile.com/doc_051-075/doc0059.html
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<clips>

...The CIA document described a $1000-a-plate fundraiser in Caracas held between September 22 and October 5, 1976, to support the activities of Orlando Bosch, the head of CORU, which the FBI has described as "an anti-Castro terrorist umbrella organization." The informant quoted Bosch as making an offer to Venezuelan officials to forgo acts of violence in the United States when President Carlos Andres Perez visited the UN in November, in return for "a substantial cash contribution to organization." Bosch was also overheard stating: "Now that our organization has come out of the Letelier job looking good, we are going to try something else." Several days later, Posada was reported to have stated that "we are going to hit a Cuban airplane" and "Orlando has the details." (Both the Bosch and Posada statements were cited in an October 18th, 1976 report to Secretary of State Henry Kissinger posted by the Archive on May 17th.)

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB157/



Luis Posada Carriles spoke of plans to "hit" a Cuban airliner only days before Cubana flight 455 exploded on October 6, 1976, killing all 73 passengers aboard, according to this declassified CIA document from 1976.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 05:14 AM
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23. kick
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 10:01 AM
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24. This link is priceless. On the first glance I saw an answer to something
I've wondered about: Did Posada Carriles work for the CIA at the same time he was also working as the head of the Venezuelan secret service? ABSOLUTELY.

How crooked does THAT make our own CIA sound? (Don't know if you saw it or not, but someone posted new info. that a survivor of some torture he endured at Posada Carriles' order in Venezuela has gone public, and also named Posada Carriles as the one who had his friend murdered.) Here's the quick reference to the Venezuela/CIA link:
Document 2: CIA, Secret Memorandum to the FBI, "Information Regarding Anti-Castro Figures Possibly Involved in Neutrality or Other Violations of Federal Law," December 9, 1976

In the aftermath of the bombing of the Cubana flight, the CIA ran "traces" on dozens of anti-Castro exiles who might be linked to this atrocity. This document records the summaries of traces on the two exiles who had by then been arrested in Caracas, Orlando Bosch and Luis Posada. The CIA noted that agents had had multiple contacts with Bosch in 1962 and 1963; and the Agency acknowledged that it had employed Luis Posada starting in 1965 and that he was a "demolitions expert." The CIA also noted that he provided information to them on the activities of other exile groups. It censored a section of the document that described the services he performed for the CIA while a high official in the Venezuelan secret police, DISIP, between 1967 and 1974. Other CIA records show that the Agency continued to have contact with Posada until June of 1976, more than eleven years after he was first recruited.
(snip)
This is nasty stuff. Glad to get a chance to see it. It confirms wild suspicions.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:20 AM
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27. I did see that article about the guy who Posada tortured while
working for DISIP. In Richard Gott's book In the Shadow of the Liberator, Hugo Chavez and the Transformation of Venezuela Gott pointed out that after the Cuban Revolution kicked the Batistianos out of Cuba many went to Venezuela where they became part of Venezuela's DISIP. All these years reading about Posada I never knew that he was involved in DISIP until very recently. Also that sentence about Posada providing the CIA with information on other exile groups is interesting. The guy is the lowest of the low, murderer, torturer, and snitch. Think the MiamiGusanos will name a day for him like they did Bosch?? It would not surprise me in the least.

On a lighter note, here's a link to several family pictures of Chavez. Enjoy!! :-)

http://www.cybercircle.org/sections/biography1.shtml



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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 12:39 PM
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25. What a monster is he! ! ! ! !
This is the enhanced version of doctor Mengele

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Padme Amidala Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 05:01 PM
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4. There are national rallies Monday (6/13) calling for his extradition.
In of these is at the Los Angeles downtown Federal District Court.

Venezuela was the first country in the Western Hemisphere to abolish the death penalty so, if he is extradited for trial, you can be sure he won't be subjected to the kind of thing to which the U.S. Government regularly subjects less guilty people.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 11:46 AM
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13. I found some more protest locations, a day after reading your post.....
Protests are already planned in several cities. For details contact:

Los Angeles: Gather at 11 am at the Downtown Federal Building (300 N. Los Angeles Street). Call 323-464-1636 for details.

San Francisco: Gather at 12 noon at the Federal Courthouse (7th and Missions Sts.). Call 415-821-6545 for details.

Miami: Call 305-757-3113 for details.

Washington DC: Gather at 12 noon at the White House. Call 202-544-3389 for details.

New York City: Call 212-533-0417 for details.
http://www.answerla.org/pic/05-06-13-Posada/index.htm

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More Posada info. in this article:
Weekend Edition
June 10 / 12, 2005

The Asshole in El Paso
Posada Carriles: Why He Matters
By ELI STEPHENS

On June 13, ANSWER has called for a national day of action in support of the extradition of Luis Posada Carriles. Actions are scheduled in at least a dozen North American cities, with the following demands:
No Asylum for Luis Posada Carriles
Extradite him to Venezuela for Trial
End the 45-Year U.S. War Against Cuba
Free the Cuban 5 anti-terrorists from U.S. prison
The most ambitious is the one which will be held in El Paso, Texas, where Posada Carriles' immigration hearing will be held that day; because his previous hearing was held in Miami at 7 a.m., presumably to discourage demonstrations, the demonstration in El Paso starts at 6:30 a.m. (!) Demonstrations in other cities are scheduled at more "civilized" hours. Details of all the actions can be found on the ANSWER website.

There are a number of reasons why the struggle to extradite Luis Posada Carriles, which might seem at first to be a peripheral issue, is of vital importance to progressives and antiwar activists in the United States.

First, there is a simple matter of justice for Posada Carriles' victims. Those victims were more than just numbers ("73 dead"), or more than just a symbol ("the entire Cuban junior fencing team") - each one of them was a real person, with a real life, and a real family, and their deaths weren't just the single tragedy of a downed airliner, they were 73 individual tragedies. Gloria LaRiva, the national coordinator of the National Committee to Free the Cuban Five and one of the leading Cuba solidarity activists in the U.S. for many years, was in Cuba recently where she interviewed relatives of those victims; here's what the family of one of them had to say:
(snip/...)
http://www.counterpunch.org/stephens06102005.html

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pescao Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:38 PM
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16. don't forget london!
http://www.handsoffvenezuela.org/bush_give_up_terrorists060605.htm

also, have u read this one yet? very good...

http://www.counterpunch.org/landau06092005.html

June 9, 2005
The Charmed Life of a Mass Murderer: Posada Carriles and Bush's Anti-Terror Hoax

By SAUL LANDAU

President George W. Bush has emphasized that if one of the myriad of U.S. police agencies even suspect someone of planning, abetting or carrying out a terrorist act, he will, at a minimum, get tossed into a dark hole. Indeed, Bush has thrown the Magna Carta into the garbage heap when it comes to Muslims suspected of pernicious thoughts toward the United States.

But if suspected terrorists turn their rage toward the detested Fidel Castro, these rules don't apply.

...

The FBI has reams of files on Posada, affectionately called "Bambi" by his terrorist friends. Former FBI Special Agent Carter Cornick told New York Times reporter Tim Weiner that Posada was "up to his eyeballs" in the October 1976 destruction of a Cuban commercial airliner over Barbados. All 73 passengers and crew members died. Recently published FBI and CIA documents not only confirm Cornick's statement, but also reveal that U.S. agencies had knowledge of the plot and did not inform Cuban authorities or try to stop the bombing.

...

In a 1996 interview, Veciana told me how he and Posada had recruited two Venezuelan hit men, disguised them as a TV news crew and sent them to Santiago, Chile, before Castro arrived on a visit. Meanwhile, the assassins "blended in" with the press corps. CIA technicians had outfitted their news camera with a gun. Fortunately for Fidel, the assassins chickened out. Posada, enraged over such cowardice, recruited other assassins to use the same lethal camera on Castro when he stopped in Caracas for a press conference on his return to Cuba. Those whackers also had second thoughts and the plot failed again.

...
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 05:56 PM
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6. Peter Kornbluh is right. The CIA really should declassify Posada papers
This IS the time to do it. The American people deserve to know how the money they've been forced to pay through their taxes has been spent on this guy.

We've hired him to kill 73 civilians on that Cubana airliner, some of them actual children.

It would be the best for all concern to allow the files to become accessible and get him out of the country, and off our payroll, and headed toward a destination where he may be allowed to stand trial.

Thanks to the poster who mentioned Venezuela dropped the death penalty. Venezuela has assured the world it will not forward his sorry carcass to Cuba to stand trial there for his other murders.

Time to move on and stop protecting arch-criminals.

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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 08:48 PM
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8. LUIS POSADA CARRILES THE DECLASSIFIED RECORD
Edited on Thu Jun-09-05 08:52 PM by Mika
Much is here on the bloodsoaked murderers.

Posada's connections to Mas Canosa (CANF), Brigade 2506, Alpha 66, CORU, CIA, Iran-Contra & more.



The National Security Archive.

LUIS POSADA CARRILES
THE DECLASSIFIED RECORD
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB153/



____________________________

More here..

Luis Posada Carriles
and the Cuban American National Foundation:
Coca Contra lives on
http://www.afrocubaweb.com/posada.htm


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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:06 AM
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10. Thanks for link! eom
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-05 09:05 PM
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9. Miami's New Times
has a good article in last weeks paper about this bastard. I hope he spends the rest of his life in jail.



Terror Alert, Miami Style

June 2, 2005

As journalistic flareups go, it was hardly on the scale of Newsweek igniting a fresh round of Middle Eastern jihad. Still the May 17 secret press conference and subsequent arrest of legendary anti-Castro militant Luis Posada Carriles was a classic, only-in-Miami media moment, one in which a flock of reporters hungry for a "War on Terror" scoop collided head-on with the White House's persistent wooing of South Florida's Cuban-exile community.

Posada himself, at age 77, is a walking slice of Cold War history, better suited to a Graham Greene novel than a dispassionate newspaper account. Declassified U.S. government documents portray a Cuban exile who trained for the ill-fated 1961 Bay of Pigs invasion and quickly landed on the CIA's payroll, an "asset" running covert operations against Fidel Castro throughout the Caribbean, while still finding time to procure explosives for former Las Vegas mobster Frank "Lefty" Rosenthal.

By the Seventies, U.S. policy may have settled into a state of uneasy coexistence with Castro, but not Posada, who is believed to be the mastermind of the 1976 midair bombing of a Cuban airliner that killed 73 people. Imprisoned in Venezuela for that crime, he escaped in 1985, rejoining the CIA in El Salvador in their contra war against Nicaragua's Sandinistas. Posada hardly slowed down for the Nineties, taking credit in a 1998 New York Times profile for planning a series of bombings in Havana hotels that killed a visiting Italian -- an effort to stifle tourism there. Jailed in Panama in 2000 for yet another bombing plot against Castro, he was pardoned in 2004, eventually slipping into Miami this past March, where his attorney announced he'd be applying for political asylum.

Posada's welcome was anything but warm though. While the Cuban and Venezuelan governments angrily demanded his extradition, editorial pages around the country bristled at the notion of offering Posada sanctuary, sourly noting the ease with which he apparently crossed the border and avoided Homeland Security. ABC News's Ted Koppel opined on Nightline that in a post-9/11 environment, "when the U.S. is leading the global war against terrorism, it cannot appear to show tolerance for a man with Posada's background, even though he once worked for the CIA."

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/Issues/2005-06-02/news/kulchur.html

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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 08:42 PM
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17. Dontcha just love the way they refer to a terrorist as 'militant'
keeerist, can't anybody tell the f*ck'n truth?

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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 12:17 AM
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11. cute, a confession. Now can we send him where he belongs?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 02:36 PM
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14. From the Globe and Mail: Bush on the hot spot
Bush on the hot spot
One man's terrorist, another man's freedom-fighter By PETER MCKENNA AND JOHN KIRK

Friday, June 10, 2005 Updated at 1:07 AM EDT

Special to Globe and Mail Update

...Mr. Posada is wanted in Venezuela in connection with the 1976 bombing of a Cuban airliner that killed 73 people, among them 24 members of Cuba's national fencing team. Though he has never been convicted, and denies any role in the attack, he spent nine years in a Venezuela jail awaiting trial for the bombing (he escaped in 1985). He is also implicated in the 1997 bombing of the Copacabana Hotel in Havana - and event that resulted in the death of a Montreal tourist.
(snip)

To date, rather than send Mr. Posada off to Cuba or Venezuela (where he was once a citizen and operated his alleged terrorist activities in the late 1970s), the Bush administration has responded with a firm No. Does this not raise the prospect of other countries refusing U.S. extradition requests for suspected terrorists?
(snip)

Until recently, U.S. officials had repeatedly claimed ignorance even about Mr. Posada's whereabouts. Yet, in March, Mr. Posada's lawyer announced that his client was living in the United States. And Mr. Posada himself even held a press conference in Miami. Thousands of U.S. agents have been assigned to defend the United States against terrorism, yet they couldn't locate a 77-year-old accused terrorist who held a press conference.

Meanwhile, ever since 9/11, Washington has made it increasingly difficult for genuine refugees to gain sanctuary in the United States. If Mr. Posada is given asylum in the U.S., what message does that send to the rest of the world? Are U.S. borders open to anti-Castro terrorists but not to bona fide refugees? Clearly, if Mr. Posada was a suspected Islamic terrorist, the Bush administration would not be so accommodating. Put another way, would the United States be so passive if Cuba was harbouring Osama bin Laden?
(snip/...)
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050609.wcomment0610/BNStory/International/
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 03:24 PM
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15. Declassified documents show terror suspect Posada, in US custody, plotted
Declassified documents show terror suspect Posada, in US custody, plotted against Cuban jet

June 10, 2005, 21:49 gmt



Luis Posada Carriles
© AFP/File Teresita Chavarria
MIAMI (AFP) - Newly declassified US documents show that a terror suspect and former CIA asset in US custody, Luis Posada Carriles, said in 1976: "We are going to hit a Cuban airplane" prior to the bombing of a Cubana flight off Barbados October 6 of the same year.

Newly declassified US documents show that a terror suspect and former CIA asset in US custody, Luis Posada Carriles, said in 1976: "We are going to hit a Cuban airplane" prior to the bombing of a Cubana flight off Barbados October 6 of the same year.
The documents, released Thursday by the private National Security

Archive at George Washington University, also say Posada Carriles was used by the CIA as an informer on Cuban exiles in Miami.

Venezuela wants to put Posada Carriles on trial for the downing of a Cubana airliner with 73 passengers aboard in 1976. He escaped a Venezuelan prison while awaiting an appeal of his Venezuelan trial. Cuban-born Posada Carriles is a nationalized Venezuelan.
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http://www.bakutoday.net/afps/english/shared/int/050610194958.2h9xx7ud.html
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:01 PM
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19. Too creepy even to look at his picture... meanwhile the pressure
is on. I'm not holding my breath, but maybe they're gonna give him up. Probably not though, he knows where all the bodies are buried.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 09:56 PM
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20. He's so full of himself, no one would ever believe it if he "committed
Edited on Fri Jun-10-05 10:13 PM by Judi Lynn
suicide," but that may be the only alternative for a bunch of right-wingers who are starting to feel he's a lot more trouble than he's worth.

A trip going down a flight of stairs?

Maybe he'll stumble and fall in front of an approaching car!


Maybe poison food from lousey room service!

He can never be too careful from now on. He had his "warning shot" a long time ago when someone shot his jaw and removed part of his tongue.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:39 PM
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21. LOL That's good!! I read in a BBC article that in the docs released
today that Posada was an informer for the CIA against Cuban exiles. Maybe they're gonna hang him out to dry. Wait! I have a better idea. Take him to New Mexico, manage to get the old murderer to the top of Shiprock and leave the bastard there with the snakes. Navajos wouldn't care too much for that though as Shiprock is on Navajo Nation and is sacred to them.

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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-05 10:49 PM
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22. Why does the AP call Carriles a 'militant' instead of 'terrorist?'
Apparently, Bush's media whores cannot bring themselves to call Reichwing terrorists what they are: terrorists.

Lori Price
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-11-05 09:49 PM
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26. kick
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