House votes to limit Patriot Act rules on library records

[MoonGod]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-06-15-patriot-vote_x.htm?POE=

WASHINGTON (AP) — The House voted Wednesday to block the FBI and the Justice Department from using the Patriot Act to search library and book store records.

Despite a veto threat from President Bush, lawmakers voted 238-187 to block the part of the anti-terrorism law that allows the government to investigate the reading habits of terror suspects...

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-06-15-patriot-vote_x.htm?POE=

[Charlie Brown]

1. Who on earth voted AGAINST this measure?

I want names

[karlrschneider]

2. It's a fairly good sign...wonder if Chimp really would veto it?

:eyes:

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

34. He won't

The Patriot Act has a sunset provision. There'd be no Patriot Act if he vetoed this.

[LSK]

3. yahoo link

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050615/ap_on_go_co/patriot_act_libraries

Funny how this is about the only thing that Sasserasshole would allow from that hearing last friday.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

4. This is huge.

Repukes voted against Dear Leader. He is losing them. I wonder if there are enough functioning procreative nodules, amongst the repukes, to successfully mount a veto override?

[IndianaGreen]

5. Let's see how those 14 "moderate" Senators stand on this issue!

I hope that there are enough libertarians in the GOP to restore our freedom to read books unencumbered.

[Ms. Clio]

6. I do thank the Republicans that voted for this

It's truly conservative to desire the preservation of Constitutional rights.

[ElectroPrincess]

7. Yes, Ms. Clio, I join you in my sincere appreciation ...

Now these folks are the Republican Conservatives in my Father's tradition. Thank you for protecting Our Country's Constitution and not being a rubber-stamp for this Neo-Con Executive Branch. :patriot: :applause:

[natrat]

8. not that huge

more bs to make it seem they have some regard for individual rights. Will they alllow the fbi to search a judges consent? YES

[treefrogjohn]

9. US House votes to curb Patriot Act, defies Bush

Bring on the veto George!


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=3&u=/nm/20050615/ts_nm/usa_security_congress_dc

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday defied
President Bush by approving a measure making it harder for federal agents to secretly gather information on people's library reading habits and bookstore purchases.

The House voted 238-187 to scale back the government's powers to conduct secret investigations that were authorized by the Patriot Act, a post-Sept. 11 anti-terrorism law.

"We can fight terrorism without undermining basic constitutional rights. That's what the message of today is about," said Rep. Bernie Sanders, a Vermont independent who pushed the measure through the House with the support of 38 Republicans.

The White House has warned Congress that any weakening of the Patriot Act would prompt senior advisers to recommend that Bush veto the $57.5 billion bill to fund activities next year for the
Justice Department and other federal agencies, which now contains Sanders' amendment.

The Senate has not yet debated its version of the bill.

[Guckert]

10. stem cell, infrastructure spending, Bolton, Judges, and now unPatriot act.

get the popcorn,:popcorn: this going to get good.:rofl:

We need a lame duck Smiley????

[burythehatchet]

26. ...

[reBel_gyrl]

11. Score one for the left!

It's a small one, (Oh, they can't get our library records? Well, good.) but I think we'll take it! Hang in there gang, we'll take 'em out one by one if we have to! Can't wait to read Patriot 2...

[truthisfreedom]

12. score one for FREEDOM, BABY! this isn't about the left. it's about the

Constitution and the Bill of Rights. it's about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

it's about keeping America truly free.

[gatorboy]

36. Score one for some Rebuplicans...

...That are gonna try to keep their jobs next election :)

Though it's pretty sad that's what it comes to. Don't vote on integrity...Vote to keep your cushy position.

[reBel_gyrl]

50. True.

You are absolutely correct. (not right:) ) I didn't mean to make it about me, or "us", I am glad to make the distinction, thank you. Score one for FREEDOM!

[Gay Green]

13. Rep. Bernie Sanders, a Vermont independent who pushed the measure...

...through the house with the support of 38 Republicans.

And Dennis "the menace" Hastert said he would not permit any legislation to go through without the backing of a majority of Repugs first.

HA!

[central scrutinizer]

14. initiate algorithm

Begin: rat - sinking ship algorithm, repeat while party affiliation = R

[katinmn]

17. LOL. Just a couple more "outbursts" from Dr. Dean and

we'll have our country back.

:) :applause:

[coloradodem2005]

15. Rock on!!!!

:headbang:

[WePurrsevere]

16. Wahoo!

Great news for freedom and civil liberty lovers everywhere! .... now let's hope it will pass the Senate as well...

Then well.. there's Bush ::sigh:: ... "The White House has warned Congress that any weakening of the Patriot Act would prompt senior advisers to recommend that Bush veto the $57.5 billion bill to fund activities next year for the
Justice Department and other federal agencies, which now contains Sanders' amendment."

Wouldn't vetoing the bill to fund the above activities be sort of "biting one's nose off to spite one's face?" Are there enough votes so far that a veto could be over ridden?

[acmavm]

21. bush** is on his hands and knees praying that these guys fall in line or

else he'll be forced to show the world what a whiny, petulant, nasty little specimen of vermin he is. He's more than willing to hold up the federal government and its agencies to push extend legislation that NO ONE, EVEN REPUBLICANS want. And by republicans I mean the ones with traceable brain wave patterns, not the Fallwell/Phelps following freakshows who get all the attention.

[brokensymmetry]

23. From your lips to God's ears!

he'll be forced to show the world what a whiny, petulant, nasty little specimen of vermin he is.

Please, let it happen!

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

18. Well, I will be dipped in s**t.

Miracles DO happen.

Has a corner been turned?

[LeahD]

19. Pinch me if I'm dreaming.

Geez, how much good news can we take?

Any link to see which Representatives voted "Yes?"

[E-Z-B]

20. If Bush vetoes this, is he considered an "activist president"?

Since he's defying the will of the people? Much like how he's threatening to veto the stem cell research bill?

[napi21]

22. I think it depends on who the Pugs were who jumped ship.

If there were several who are prominent Shrub supporters, I think Shrub will back off, and say the Congress is the legislative body and they've voted. If it's a bunch of newbies who nobody knows, he'll veto it to pander to the RW base.

[The_Casual_Observer]

24. They knew it was bullshit all along, but they NEVER admit

any mistakes, so they let it ride all this time.

[AX10]

25. B.S from Bush.

Bush does NOT have the right to be a dictator. The congress has the right to pass bills. This is a step in the right direction.

[Disturbed]

28. I await the day when the little Silverspoon Sociopath vetos a

bill and the Senate and House over ride his veto. That would be a day to celebrate.

[berni_mccoy]

27. Wow, BushCo Batting a BIG FAT ZERO!

:toast:

[bread_and_roses]

29. Good goddess, the HOUSE?

Am I naive in thinking this is very significant? The House? The body that seems to pass everything Bush with overwhelming majority?

I realize it is not a total repudiation of the Patriot Act but even this small show of independence floors me, unless I am in some alternate Universe and misremembering the House since Jan. 2001?

[usregimechange]

30. Where can I view the Roll Call Vote?

[noshenanigans]

32. here's a link..

Roll Call Vote

[Massacure]

31. Has Bush even used a presidential veto yet?

[xxqqqzme]

37. NO

n/t

[geckosfeet]

33. One small victory at a time. Freedom claws its way back.

[dejaboutique]

35. small but GREAT victory

this is good to see! enough said.

[applegrove]

38. House Votes to Limit Patriot Act Rules

By ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 20 minutes ago


" WASHINGTON - In a slap at President Bush, lawmakers voted Wednesday to block the Justice Department and the FBI from using the Patriot Act to peek at library records and bookstore sales slips.

-- Snip --

The House voted 238-187 despite a veto threat from Bush to block the part of the anti-terrorism law that allows the government to investigate the reading habits of terror suspects.

The vote reversed a narrow loss last year by lawmakers concerned about the potential invasion of privacy of innocent library users. They narrowed the proposal this year to permit the government to continue to seek out records of Internet use at libraries.

The vote came as the House debated a $57.5 billion bill covering the departments of Commerce, Justice and State. The Senate has yet to act on the measure, and GOP leaders often drop provisions offensive to Bush during final negotiations."

.......

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050616/ap_on_go_co/patriot_act_libraries;_ylt=AskBW_2xgbQsTALQYhgb98ZI2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

[rwenos]

39. Congressional Pubs Smell Blood in the Water

And, being sharks, are swimming toward the rotting flesh sheeding the blood (from the White House).

Gotta love those Pub's. Cannibals.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. ok folks what is going on? they are now truly breaking

[Goldmund]

41. Which is the reason that I think that DSM may, for once, make a difference

[burrowowl]

42. They should repeal the

whole Raygun Fascist's Wet Dream!
The fascist just dusted it off and presented it and DAMN! IF CONGRESS CRITTERS DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT! :grr: :puke: :grr:

:nuke: The so-called Patriot Act! Not filibuster and the People's Bill of Rigths

[knowbody0]

43. 238 - 187

republicans are beginning to think

[Carla in Ca]

44. A quick look at the Yahoo headlines

Congress votes to limit Pat Act; defies bush. Dems say Social Security overhaul dead.
Wow, am I dreaming or what?

[TaleWgnDg]

45. This is Dumb City 101. This is the least of least that should be . . .

.
This is Dumb City 101. This is the least of least that should be . . . repealed from The Patriot Act. Congress simply doesn't want to chew into elements of the Act which are more controversial (and unconstitutional). Simple really.

With an eye on elections, campaign contributions, party politics, and what they can *sell*, this is a mere *token* to the constituencies. S'all. The bastards.



.

[sattahipdeep]

49. Sensenbrenner

Sensenbrenner said he would support making only three of the "less
controversial" provisions of the current act permanent. The others,
such as obtaining business records and on roving wiretaps "could be
modified or re-extended temporarily."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0616/dailyUpdate.html

Sensenbrenner.... H. J. RES. 24

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States
to repeal the 22nd amendment to the Constitution.

http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/06/1747426.php

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. Could it be, we are seeing the begining of the end?

Could this be possible?

Remember nightmares do end, and when they do, they do like this...

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

47. Christian Science Monitor: House votes to repeal part of USA Patriot Act

House votes to repeal part of USA Patriot Act
Vote may signal that Bush campaign to renew and extend Act isn't winning over Congress.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0616/dailyUpdate.html

In a move that may signal a tougher battle ahead, the San Francisco Chronicle reports that the Republican-controlled House of Representatives voted Wednesday to remove the Patriot Act provision that "allows federal agents to examine people's book-reading habits at public libraries and bookstores as part of terrorism investigations."

The vote was 238-187 – 38 Republicans joined 199 Democrats and amendment sponsor Bernie Sanders, (I) of Vermont, in supporting the repeal. The Washington Post reports that the vote was the result of conservative Republicans, worried about government intrusion, who joined with Democrats worried about personal privacy.

House Republican leaders are not accustomed to losing, and they did not hide their anger about the result. One aide to a House leader referred to the victorious coalition as 'the crazies on the left and the crazies on the right, meeting in the middle.'

The Associated Press characterizes the vote as a slap at President Bush, who has spent much of his time over the past few weeks campaigning for an expanded USA Patriot Act. The so-called "library provision" that the Congress voted to end Thursday is one of 16 that requires renewal by Congress.

[Sabriel]

48. While you're at it, get that recruiting thing out of NCLB, too n/t