Conyers/Downing Street Memo Hearing on CSPAN3 LIVE NOW!

[Up2Late]

ON CAPITOL HILL
The Downing Street Memo
Rep. John Conyers, House Judiciary Cmte. Ranking Member, chairs a meeting on the Downing Street Memo and pre-Iraq War intelligence. Witnesses include former ambassador Joe Wilson, CIA analyst Ray McGovern, Cindy Sheehan, mother of a fallen American soldier, and constitu-tional lawyer John Bonifaz.

If you don't have that on your Cable system Here's an On-line link:

<http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30>

[Roland99]

1. Ray McGovern, former CIA analyst now speaking.

"Never have I known a sitting Vice President making visits to the CIA"

Referring to Cheney's multiple visits.

[bpilgrim]

101. -- --- ---------- --------------- --------------- - > MP3

http://news.globalfreepress.com/mp3/DSM/end-of-DSM-hearing.mp3


just the last 30 min or so but it was INCREDIBLE :bounce: :cry:

thank you EVERYONE for pass'n the WORD :toast:

peace

[Up2Late]

103. Also, CSPAN .org has the Video re-play on-line at CSPAN .org

It's a Java link (so it won't post) Click where it says "House Judiciary Cmte. Democrats Meeting on Downing Street Memo and Iraq War (06/16/2005)" at <http://www.c-span.org/>

[Tweed]

2. What the hell is on C-SPAN 1 & 2?

What could possibly be more important?

[oldtime dfl_er]

4. required to cover congress

when it's in session. Whether they're just standing around or not.


http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/665903

[proud2BlibKansan]

6. Required by whom?

[oldtime dfl_er]

10. That's the rule by which they operate

I'm not sure if it's an FCC thing or what, but that's what I've been told when I called them.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/665903

[Roland99]

12. By the creation of C-SPAN

http://www.c-span.org/about/company/index.asp


And

http://www.c-span.org/about/company/index.asp?code=COMPANY

[AuntiBush]

79. C-SPAN to RE-AIR "DSM" Meeting on Friday Night! TV Coverage!!!

8:00 PM EST C-SPAN 2; will re-air today's meeting tomorrow night, folks.
Check http://www.cspan.org/ for scheduling in your area.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1554832

[Up2Late]

94. Boring old men making dull speeches

What else?:shrug:

[Janice325]

3. A Kick for Posterity!

A big ole kick!!!!

[proud2BlibKansan]

5. Ha ha CNN is covering

a live police chase in CA.

CSPAN3 is NOT on my cable system. Damn.

[Roland99]

9. Well, one bad guy obviously affects more people than an invasion.

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. Sorry I goofed

It is Headline News covering the police chase.

CNN is talking about a golf tournament.

[Roland99]

13. Oh well...I hope the guy gets a hole in one.

:sarcasm:

[dissent1977]

92. oh, well that just clears everything right up

It is good to see the station that "America trusts most" covering the stories that effect our lives. :sarcasm:

[Up2Late]

96. L.A. Car Chase Update- ended in a "Stand off" i.e. the kids got out...

...one by one, then took the driver into custody. Fox cut away once the SUV stopped, CNN/HLN stay with it till the arrest.

At approx 5:04 CNN/HLN did a DSM story of about 3-4 minutes (Second story after Car chase):eyes:

[Up2Late]

15. And regular CNN is showing video of Happy Soldiers...

...in a peaceful part of Iraq:mad:

[Up2Late]

18. Fox "news" is now covering the same L.A.Car chase

Hey, it gets great ratings in L.A., and what's more important than T.V. Ratings?

[Roland99]

7. John Bonifaz, co-founder of AfterDowningStreet.org now speaking.

[stillcool]

16. does he sound like RFK ....or am I delusional?....n/t

[darkism]

8. Looks like a decent turnout n/t

[genius]

14. The I word is being discussed. Let's demand follow-through

Let's push Congress into impeaching Bush, Cheney & Rice

[Roland99]

17. Conyers: "What do the minutes tell us that we didn't already know?"

Joe Wilson replying various people would not have written certain pieces (people like Scowcroft, Baker, Gen. Zinni, and himself) if they'd known the cards were already dealt.

[iam]

19. The Conyers forum is here!

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan3_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

[Barrett808]

20. Recommended for Greatest page n/t

[katty]

21. it's Great-I'm watchin it - Bonifaz was excellent

apparently all news outlet showed up - except, of course, FAUX news
Wonder how the Rabid right will spin this tonight...

[Roland99]

22. He's going on about the Oct. 2002 authorization and if it was a legal

declaration of war. If so, what was the evidence at that time known by the WH (or kept secret from the Congress.)

[Up2Late]

23. Maxine Waters on now!

I truly Love that woman, She's one of my favorite people in Congress:loveya:

[Barrett808]

24. Go Maxine!

Calling the invasion "perhaps the greatest scandal in this country's history."

Nice.

[Roland99]

25. Rep. Maxine Waters: "This V.P. appears to be more than arrogant"

:woohoo:

[Roland99]

26. Ray McGovern again stating not once (in his 27 years)

did a sitting VP visit the CIA (not even GHWB who was in the CIA previously)

"Put yourself in the position of a young analyst...you have Cheney come in and right over your shoulder you have George Tenet..."

[budkin]

27. C-SPAN 3 "blacked out" in Austin?

I'm watching this online at work, but I just called my wife to have her turn it on at home. Mysteriously, only C-SPAN 3 is not working, it's just a black screen. 1 and 2 are working just fine. Coincidence? I doubt it.

[Up2Late]

28. That is Outrageous!

Keep us posted when it comes back on.

[Lucky Luciano]

48. That is a true outrage

Scary censorship.

[Up2Late]

97. Did CSPAN3 ever come back?

Let me guess, right after it was over.

[Up2Late]

29. Rep. Barney Frank just joined in

Questioning Amb. Joe Wilson

[HeeBGBz]

31. Just got off work. How much have I missed?

As Gawd as my witness, I was speeding home and got stuck behind an old slow pickup covered with bumper stickers: "Charlton Heston is my president", an Ashcroft sticker and a Matt "Baby" Blunt sticker. It was a mobile conspiracy.

[Up2Late]

32. About 45 minutes

They are still introducing those there (Quite a few)

[Up2Late]

30. Congressman Jim McDermott of Washington State questioning

now, looks like almost all of the Congressional Black Caucus is there too.

Now up, Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee!

On Edit: Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee Just apologized to the Families for the actions of Our Government

[no_to_war_economy]

33. getting real crowded in there

our band of truth brothers certainly showed up!

I official declare this "the summer of the record"

keep holding our hearings and make a record of all of *'s illegal activities - the public will catch up and impeachment hearings by summer 06

[deacon2]

89. no_to_war_economy - that's some excellent artwork

scary and dead on the mark emotionally for me. Did you create it?

[Up2Late]

98. I'd hate to see the Giant Dick (Cheney) working his controls

:evilgrin: :hide:

[Up2Late]

34. former ambassador Joe Wilson talking about his role in

Yellow Cake/pre-War run up.

[AuntiBush]

35. Listening, now! NE FM 9.01 / XM Satellite 132

C-SPAN is going to re-air this on televion.

See my post about the scheduled time, having rec'd just moments ago.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1554832

[Martti]

36. Allmost unwatchable here :(

Aww... Have to hit "reload" every 30sec or so (friends report the same)
Sure Finland is a far far away, but still... ;(

[HeeBGBz]

38. The video is not that great here either

You are in Finland? Or your friends?

Welcome to DU!

Share the moment.

[Martti]

42. Yep, we're all here

Finland that is.

And how do we wish for sanity to return to world politics... :/

Keep on the good fight, DU has improved my view on you Americans sooo much :) (Alltho there still is that wretched hive of villainy... Freerepublic or something...)

Martti

[HeeBGBz]

49. Sanity would be good.

Thank you for not writing us all off as warmongering idiots.

Can we all come visit you?

[Martti]

55. Please do

Humm.. All things considering tho... If I recall right it takes about 7 barrels of oil to transport a single person across the atlantic via jet, so when you think of the real reasons for the war, it might not be sensible for all of you to do :)

One of you did so recently tho', and wrote a really nice diary of his 3 week visit : http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/finlanddiary/

So ecologically wise we should all learn to sail, or leave the globetrotting for sail vessels :)

Sad, really :(

Martti

[Lucky Luciano]

51. Yes! Please spread the word about us Americans!

We are not all bloodthirsty psychopaths!
A good number of the b*sh supporters are thoroughly brainwashed and not necessarily bad people.

Those at freakrepublic are indeed extremely bad people for the most part though.

[Up2Late]

102. You might look in the morning (in Finland) for the RealPlayer replay

CSPAN .org usually has very high bandwidth, and when it is morning in Finland we will all mostly be asleep.

Here's the link already: <http://www.c-span.org/> It's a Java link, so I can't post it, but it says:

"House Judiciary Cmte. Democrats Meeting on Downing Street Memo and Iraq War (06/16/2005)"

[Robbien]

39. Just listen instead

Listening only has no problems.

[Up2Late]

40. Sorry, we are probably using up most of the bandwidth

Not as good, but I bet the audio stream is O.K.

[Robbien]

47. CSpan2 will be airing a replay tomorrow

So listening only right now is good enough. Tomorrow I can watch the whole thing on television.

[Up2Late]

37. Rep. Barbara Lee- CA on now, she seems very angry

Asking what is the plan NOW!?!

[Up2Late]

41. CNN/HLN still on L.A. Car chase, Fox has switched to Hillery Bashing

Triple screen!

[Barrett808]

43. Rep. Moran: "Endemic pattern of deceipt" n/t

[Up2Late]

44. Rep. Jim McDermott questioning again

What WAS the Reason?

O.I.L. O is for Oil, I is for Israel, and L is for Logistics Base that would result from the war.

[Up2Late]

45. Congressman Charles Rangel on now

"would sacrifice (join the Army) again, if asked..."

[Up2Late]

46. Congressman Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) on now

"Congress has failed completely in its job..."

[Up2Late]

50. Hinchey Question: How has this discrediting of U.S. Intelligence...

...affected our National Safety?

[Up2Late]

53. A: A CIA "House Cleaning" is required, all the Good people...

...have left, if Bolton is confirmed, all the rest of the credible people will leave.

[CATagious]

54. what we need...

is one of those 'young analysts' in the CIA to come forward with information on the nature of Cheney's visits and if they felt pressured by him and Tenet.

[SaveAmerica]

52. thanks for your play by play n/t

[toey]

56. Anyone know...

where I can find screensavers or pictures pertaining to Downing Street that I can save for wallpaper on my computer?

[Up2Late]

57. Congressman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) up now

"We have several crises...one being a lack of "Checks and Balances" as evidenced by this being held Unofficially and in a Small room."

[SaveAmerica]

58. Did Conyers say if he gave the petition to Bush yet?

[Up2Late]

59. I missed the first 3 minutes, so he may have, but I don't know

Anyone?

[SaveAmerica]

67. I found this written by Gratuitous over in GD P about the petition:

"Because when the forum (it's not an official hearing, whine the Repukes) is over, everybody is going to walk over to Lafayette Park to gather and then cross the street to the White House to present the petition asking that the Dear Leader be so kind as to respond to the letter that was sent last month."

I would love to be in that procession.

[Up2Late]

60. Question: Do we know how Dearlove came to his conclusions?

A: Those are the Questions we need to ask. This has not been investigated, even though WH says it has been.

[Up2Late]

61. Question to Amb. Joe Wilson -- Do you think pulling out Troops

will cause a Sectarian Civil War?

A: The longer we are there, the more the Hate for us will build (2nd Generation fighters)

[Barrett808]

62. Rep. Zoe Lofgren: GOP congress "participating in a cover-up"

Go get 'em!

[Barrett808]

64. "Can't even get a room...we're meeting in the basement" n/t

[0007]

63. Richard Dearlove will sink junior and perhaps send him to

the big house. Jack Straw can confirmed the big lie.

[Up2Late]

65. Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren (D-San Jose, CA) on now

Quoting Ed Melman (GOP Chair) on Meet the Press: That report has been discredited by everyone who has looked at it. Has it?

[Up2Late]

66. Answer: It's a Bold Lie!

We asked back when the Yellow Cake was found to be a Lie, What else are they lying about?

Now we know.

[Up2Late]

68. Congresswoman Hilda L. Solis (CA) up now

California Families still trying to find out how their Children Died in Iraq, has been NO classification for some.

Q: What did ever happen to the Yellow Cake?

A: It was a complete Fabrication

Mother Cindy Sheehan: We can't get a meeting with Rummy or anyone who will tell us how our Children Died.

[Up2Late]

69. Congressman Donald M. Payne (N.J.)

Q:Why were the U.N. Inspectors asked to leave Iraq by our Government?

A: Don't really know how to sum up that answer, Anyone?

[Pirate Smile]

70. FYI - Washington Post has link to live coverage of Conyers' DSM forum

Washington Post has link to live coverage of Conyers' DSM forum
Edited on Thu Jun-16-05 03:53 PM by Pirate Smile

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2005/04/12/VI2005041201249.html
I had a good hook up to C-span3 (because I did it an hour before it started) and I accidentally hit a key and got disconnected. When I reconnected, I kept getting cut off. I started listening through Pacifica and went to WP website - this link is listed on the front page of their website.

It is listed a few lines underneath the Headline stating Democrats Use Memo vs. Bolton.

It is working well. It hasn't dropped once.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3875238&mesg_id=3875238

[leQ]

71. that link gives me a "you are forbidden" message (eom)

[Pirate Smile]

73. Try it now. I think it is fixed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/

You may want to try going in through the front page. It seems to work better that way.

[Up2Late]

72. Rep. MARCY KAPTUR -Ohio

"I have never seen so many resignations from Generals, Intel, National Guard comanders...

Members of Congress trying to get basic records can NOT get them from this WH

[Barrett808]

74. Asking about Reagan/Bush illegal arming of Iraq! n/t

[Barrett808]

75. Spider's Web! A great book

Spider's Web: How the White House Ilegally Armed Iraq, by Alan Friedman
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0553096508/qid=1118955860/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/102-7515036-8412907?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

[Up2Late]

99. I thought they said it was being suppressed?

What's the story about it?

[Barrett808]

105. It was printed in 1991/2, just as "Iraqgate" was happening

Of course, the Bush 41 administration shredded mountains of documents, unprecedented in any administration, so we may never have the documents the forum are demanding.

Briefly, the book thoroughly documents how Reagan/Bush/Baker conspired to illegally divert agricultural loans through BNL Atlanta, mostly so Saddam could buy US precision machine tools for weapons manufacture as well as ballistic missile components. There's much more -- buy the book, it's absolutely worth the money.

[Up2Late]

76. Representative Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) on now

Thanked Mother for being here.

Reading from Washington Post: Press excuses for not covering this story (memo was old, everyone already knew this info, so why bother)

Q: Why is the DSM different?

A: Because We (at www.afterdowning street .org) won't let it die.

Q: Is this a "Smoking Gun?"

A: Yes.

[AuntiBush]

77. They're now calling for IMPEACHMENT LIVE!

:popcorn:

"They owe it to the American people..." to "Take the investigation and questions to where-ever it goes!"

Talking about "lies" and "President" and looking for "support" for Impeachment! 5:11 PM live on the radio.

[Greyhound]

78. Where the hell is Senator Clinton?!?

I'm sure they're more important corporate issues for her to shill than a meeting on the de facto coup that has been perpetrated on our nation.
I weep for the future :cry:

[Up2Late]

82. I think this is a House only meeting, haven't seen any Senators...

...so far.

Side Note: They have had 11 House (Floor)Votes while this meeting has been going on, More than they have had ALL this week.

[Greyhound]

85. thanks, that makes sense...

and it isn't surprising that the vote schedule has been set this way.
& I'm looking forward to her offices comment on this meeting.

[Up2Late]

80. Rep. Jay Inslee - (WA)

Also apologizing to the Mother of Soldier

She came to grips with the fact her son died for a Lie a long time ago, She feels sorry for the other families who are just finding that out, because of the DSM.

[dArKeR]

81. Removed

[Up2Late]

83. Dark forces are at work here? Austin Texas T.V. Feed is

blacked out too.

[toey]

84. Go Ann Wright!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Up2Late]

86. John F. Tierney (D-Salem, MA)

Missed the questions

Q: Are their any other documents that refute the DSM?

A-1: No

A-2: Need an investigation as to why Congress people "Just Trusted the President."

[Up2Late]

87. Rep. John Conyers wrapping up, letting the Families recognize

the Sons and Daughters they lost.

[Up2Late]

88. Moving to the Park across from the WH to meet with those waiting

to present the signatures of the 500,000+ and 104 members of Congress

[dArKeR]

91. Why isn't CSPAN airing this? Where can we watch it?

[Up2Late]

90. REPLAY of Video at 8:00pm EDT on CSPAN2 Friday night

Be there.

[Up2Late]

93. Any D.C. Metro people here and have a video camera?

I don't think we are going to get CSPAN coverage of Signatures meeting.

Call Local D.C. News?

[dchill]

95. 560,000 signatures on petition!

122 House members have signed the letter that will be delivered today.

If MSM would cover it, it would be the beginning of the end for Bush (et al).

[Up2Late]

100. What we need is a Car Chase to end in front of the WH...

...then we could have Helicopters! :sarcasm:Unless they have a Helicopter "no-fly zone" too.

[Kurovski]

104. It's also on C-span 1

??