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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:02 PM
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Feds Reveal Pizza Parlor Owner's Bizarre Bin Laden Bounty Plot
Feds Reveal Pizza Parlor Owner's Bizarre Bin Laden Bounty Plot

POSTED: 4:35 pm PDT June 18, 2005

HAYWARD -- The owner of a pizza parlor here illegally transferred money to a bounty hunter on a rogue mission to kill terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden, federal authorities said.

Noor Alocozy, who owns Liberty Pizza in Hayward, illegally transferred $1 million out of the country between 2002 and 2003, the federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency revealed Friday. Some of that money reached Jonathan "Jack" Idema, a jailed American mercenary accused of running his own private interrogation camp in Afghanistan.

Idema was a client of Alocozy's money-transfer business, said Virginia Kice, a spokeswoman for the agency, which spent two years investigating Alocozy's Hayward-based Noor Money Transfer, which operated out of the pizza parlor.

"These kinds of financial establishments don't operate within the rules," Kice told the Oakland Tribune. "That makes them an attractive option for people who are trying to move large sums of money around who don't want to be in law enforcement's radar."

more...
http://www.ktvu.com/news/4625619/detail.html
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:08 PM
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1. OK, I guess it's now illegal to be a bounty hunter?
Isn't that what this guy was doing? If we really want to get Osama, and somebody does, is that a bad thing?

What the hell am I missing here?????
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:22 PM
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3. This guy claimed to have been sanctioned by the US gvt
He was sentenced to prison in Afghanistan for running a private prison, entering the country illegaly and torture.

Snip: That could well change soon, as many things concerning the life and career of Keith Idema already have. Among other things, it is now clear that Idema was anything but harmless: On September 15, an Afghan court sentenced Idema to a ten-year prison term on charges of entering the country illegally, running a private prison, and torture. Idema had been accused of operating a detention–cum–interrogation center in concert with another former U.S. soldier and a TV cameraman, who were sentenced alongside him the same day. When Afghan police arrested the trio on July 5, they said they saw a smaller-scale version of the gruesome prisoner-abuse photos from the Baghdad interrogation cells in Abu Ghraib. Early press reports indicated that three prisoners found in Idema’s custody during the raid were blindfolded and beaten and strapped to the ceiling by their feet; five others were tied to chairs with rope in a small, dark room down a hall that was littered with bloodied clothing. All of the prisoners in Idema’s custody were subsequently released; none was shown to be connected to Al Qaeda.



There's a lot going on with guy if you haven't heard of him before, here's the rest of the article

http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/people/features/10121/index3.html
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:12 PM
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2. Hey if we gotta send The Sopranos to capture Bin Laden since our so
called leaders refuse to do it I say go for it.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:31 PM
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4. Why?
What teeny tiny shred of evidence do you have/you have read that OBL did what whistle ass et al claims he did?
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:00 AM
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7. Okay so I read the rest of the article but only halfway retract what
I said.

If this guy was operating a camp where he was going open season on innocent Afghans (I am aware btw of the numberous amount of ethnic groups there saying Afghanistan is nothing but radical Muslims is like saying Brooklyn is mostly rich white people) that's wrong, HOWEVER whether or not OBL was truly the mastermind of 9/11 he has called for war against America he did suggest killing civilians, if some private party knowing the risks wanted to go down there and take him out then I can't say I have a huge problem with that.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 02:45 AM
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9. Links please...
to the proof.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:57 PM
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12. You actually want me to prove that bin laden is not totally innocent
Edited on Sun Jun-19-05 01:01 PM by noahmijo
Are you really this naive? It's one thing to debate whether or not he was truly the mastermind of 9/11 it's another thing to claim his outright innocence.

This link barely even scratches the surface http://www.adl.org/terrorism_america/bin_l.asp.


If You want a well rounded education on the matter start by reading a book called "Ghost Wars" which documents the CIA's relationship with Bin Laden since the Soviet War and YES we and any educated person knows that our govt gave money to the Pakistan govt which in turn helped finance the mujahadeen and ultimately Bin Laden's crew. What initially got Bin laden pissed off was us planting troops in Saudi Arabia and the first Iraq War (did YOU even know that Bin Laden once said of Saddam "I want to fight Saddam an infidel I want to wage guerrila war against Iraq")

So I don't know where you're going with this whole Bin laden defense thing, but I am sure just like me during the campaign you were educating crowds of people on our connections with the taliban, bin laden, and afghanistan (in order to show the republicans in a damning light since it's their boys who are largely responsible for these deadly relationships) in the beginning since you know sooo much and feel the need to challenge me on it.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:47 PM
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14. Where in my posts
did I claim the innocense of OBL?

I requested evidence of the Official Conspiracy story. If you recall,
Afghanistan officals told whistle ass that they would turn OBL over, if he would provide proof.

While certainly not innocent of other atrocities, OBL said he was not guilty of perpertrating the 9/11 attacks. And no evidence has been provided to the public.

Where is the evidence?
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:55 PM
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5. Ditto. n/t
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:31 AM
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11. Hey...why do you need the Sopranos!
You got me!
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 12:00 AM
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6. CIA connection?
The owner of a pizza parlor puts up a million dollars to put a hit out on Ossama Bin Laden? There is something very fishy about it all. It reminds one a little of Jack Ruby killing Oswald out of the goodness of his heart.
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Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:44 AM
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8. Wanted Dead or Alive right....
but the government cant have private citizens doing that because it would make them look bad right. :eyes:

FWIW I think Bin Laden is already dead but I think its stupid for the government to be shitting someone just because he wanted to pony up the money to help kill our supposed #1 enemy.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 03:30 AM
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10. I don't know about the rest of you...
but I a mthinking of opening up a pizza restaurant!
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-19-05 01:05 PM
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13. sounds like the pizza parlor dude was a bit of a victim here
No, he shouldn't have shipped money overseas to put a "hit" on anyone, even Osama bin Laden, and there is a price to be paid for that, but I seem to recall that emotions were running high and a lot of us were frustrated at the lack of action by the federal gov't. It is unfortunate that the likes of Idema could victimize someone and con them out of that amount of money. You know, if our federal authorities had done their job and arrested Omar and Bin Laden immediately, instead of twiddling their thumbs for weeks and giving them plenty of lead time to get out of Afghanistan after their attack on the United States...maybe people wouldn't feel obligated to play vigilante?
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