Rice Says Iraq Never Disarmed

[Barrett808]

WASHINGTON - President Bush, facing growing doubts about his handling of postwar Iraq, launched a new public relations campaign to convince Americans his course is the correct one. His national security adviser insisted Wednesday that Saddam Hussein harbored ambitions to use unconventional weapons — even though none has been found.

Condoleezza Rice told a foreign policy forum in Chicago that the team led by chief U.S. weapons hunter David Kay "is finding proof that Iraq never disarmed and never complied with U.N. inspectors."

In fact, she suggested, if the U.N. Security Council knew last winter what Kay's group has uncovered now, it never would have rejected the U.S. call for war.

"Right up until the end, Saddam lied to the Security Council. And let there be no mistake, right up to the end, Saddam Hussein continued to harbor ambitions to threaten the world with weapons of mass destruction and to hide his illegal weapons activity," she told the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations.

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[Occulus]

1. Is Ricecakes on crack?

[SodoffBush]

13. "Foreign policy by darts"

She orders herself up a mess o' fish 'n chips and a Guiness and throws. Where the dart lands, nobody knows...

until we read about it in the next day's headlines.

[The Backlash Cometh]

14. Or maybe she's counting on dittoheads to be crackheads?

Or at least hillbilly heroin users? Since they ditto everything that Rush does, it is possible.

[loudnclear]

33. S what did Kay find out that would have changed dissenters minds?

Are we saying that any country we don't like or that resources that we want should totally diarm because we tell it to. 'Lay down your arms so that we can invade with the least risk?'

If anything, every Arab nation should be arming to the teeth to defend against invading US/UK/and Israeli forces. After Iraq and the Israeli bombing of Syria, any "terrorist" attacks on western countries should just be viewed as 'preemptive defense.'

[mhr]

2. She Must Be Popping Those Oxycontin's With Rush

eom

[juajen]

67. Believe me,

I have been wondering where those excess pills of Rush were going.

[watercolors]

3. More spin, still trying to cover their asses!

nt

[HereSince1628]

10. Absolutely, acceptance of fiction requires willing suspension of belief

and we are not willing anymore. As a whole the nation as represented by the media should not be willing to give the crazies in the WH any benefit of the doubt anymore!

[Sticky]

4. The new PR campaign started today

"We're going to have a lot more resources when that passes," said McClellan. "We want to, here in Washington, help assist the Pentagon (news - web sites) and the Coalition Provisional Authority to put those resources to the best possible use."

The memo gives National Security Council teams direct oversight in four areas: counterterrorism, economic issues, political issues and the media. The Pentagon and Coalition Provisional Authority will continue to play the lead role, but the order gives the White House a strong oversight responsibility, officials said.

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How many incredulous stories are we about to hear in the coming days?

Is she still scheduled to appear on Oprah next week?

Grrrr....

[NoKingGeorge]

5. I harbor ambitions

Of one day being a part of the group that brings these people to justice. But that does not equal having 3,000 tons of sarin gas.

[grasswire]

6. ha!

Now it's "Saddam Hussein continued to harbor ambitions..."

We bombed a country for harboring AMBITIONS!

[Paschall]

64. Well, the freepers were gung-ho...

...for bombing France for its "arrogance."

Ambitions, arrogance. Ya either gotta have a good acronym (WMD) or it's gotta start with the letter "A." Didn't ya watch Ernie doing foreign policy on Sesame Street?

[Mithras61]

7. Ummm..... last time I checked, we invaded Iraq because...

SH was witholding his weapons of mass destruction, not his ambitions to have them. This is just more BS spin, like the vial of (?)bio-toxins they "found" from 1993 in some scientist's refrigerator. Hasn't been touched in a decade, but "was ready to be used" in WMD. What a load of crap. They invaded because they wanted the oil and because Iraq was trading it in Euros, not dollars.

[bowens43]

8. 'harboring ambitions'

is an imminent threat to the united States? the toadies are getting desperate.

[nansocal]

28. you said exactly...

what I was thinking when I read that. I want to know when heads are going to roll on this mess. I thought she'd be gone , but instead they give her another job.

[thebeaglehaslanded]

9. The perverted illogic of this misadministration is stunning!

Yes means no, here means there, up means down, and none means plenty. The spin must be working because my head is spinning trying to figure out what this crackhead is talking about!

[damnraddem]

11. It appears that the Dubya Administration has now disarmed --

that is, if brains are considered arms.

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[grasswire]

24. why do you have to use terms that demean women...

...to make your point?

Come on. Argue the facts, not her gender.

[mac56]

30. Right on, grasswire

There's plenty to dispute here without resorting to junior-high vulgarity.

[suegeo]

12. The end? It's over?

"Right up until the end, Saddam lied to the Security Council."

The end? Huh? We've "ended" Saddam by capturing him, or killing him? That's news to me.

Also, Condi (you moron-in-charge-of-security-on-9-11-01), this Iraq invasion (war) is just getting warmed up. No end in site.

WHY IS THIS STUPID, STUPID WOMAN NOW TAKING ON A GREATER LEADING ROLE IN THIS DEBACLE IN IRAQ?

After all the death on 9.11.01 (way to leave us vulnerable on that day, Doctor Rice) and this botched invasion, why does this woman still have a job?

[xxqqqzme]

15. Ms rice is now

channeling Saddam - she knows what he was planning 2 do in the future. She is the lead freak in squatter's side show!

So now the plan is as follows: just keep talking about WMD as if they really exist - the same way they continue 2 allude 2 Saddam & Osama as pen pals - and voila B4 U know it 70% of the sheeple Blieve WMD have been found!

[lovedems]

17. Rummy has screwed everything up, now it is in the hands of

Rice. She is a gap toothed idiot and if Bushco. thinks we are going to believe another liar from his misadministraion, WRONG. They are getting more desperate and I find it hilarious. These spins are becoming quite amusing. What next when this doesn't work?

[Kolesar]

18. The Nine Candidates should tear into the administration on this one

Like a pit bull on granny.

[bif]

19. She's delusional

n/t

[JackSwift]

20. Their strategy is to lie so often, so perposterously

and on matters so important that the press is as confused as the dittoheads. So far, it's working.

[coldwatercyn]

54. Cheney

speaks on Friday. Get ready for the media blitz. It boggles the mind this spin.

[Paschall]

65. Cheney already spoke

At the Washington Institute for Near East Policy April 29, 1991, he said Saddam's military threat had been "eliminated."

[Snellius]

21. "harbor ambitions to threaten": 3 qualifiers in a row. Wow!

She's good.

[peterh]

22. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong….

But, before the invasion, it was all about the physical stuff. Afterwards, it was all about the programs. A couple of months later, it was in light of 9/11 and the world is better off now. Now we’re looking into the mind of this evil man and we just know he had sinister aspirations concerning the world.

My guess, in a month or two, the new talking point will be the evilness of a secular government. Without gawd in state affairs, Iraq was as evil as Russia during the cold war. But then, that might run counter to the Christian propaganda that Islam is just as evil…but I’m sure they’ll try to spin that in some fashion…

:shrug:

[leftchick]

29. to use colin's words, saddam had

"dangerous designs" to use against us .... :eyes:

[mac56]

31. "Dangerous designs"?!

"Oww! A paper cut!"

[leftchick]

48. or perhaps a

Versace gown? :eyes:

[SammyWinstonJack]

60. Ha!

Harbors ambitions of dangerous designs. :crazy:

[Malva Zebrina]

23. Digusting

absolutely shameless--they do not seem to care who knows it--they do not seem to be subtle about it in the least bit--just blam the people over the head with the lies and threaten their families if they question it-What a bunch of evil, disgusting, rotting excuses for human beings. She thinks she is so very clever using the straw man--ie the Security Council did not know what Bush knew--disgusting lie--disgusting woman. Who will answer her I wonder---anyone?, or will she just be allowed to continue to lie to the American people like a wild eyed hyena. No doubt, if not stopped, she will say it over and over--next up will be Powell, next up will be Cheney, if anyone can find him, next up will be Rummy, next up and so on and so on, as is the usual when new talking point has been ordered

[skip fox]

25. Tell the lie big enough

and you can control the world. (A desperation move. Even many right-wing commentators says Kay's inquiry is, so far, a wash.)

[0007]

26. Condeoleezza is junior's ho

or maybe a lump of coal. I can't believe this dumb twit is saying this! I'm glad she is through, cuz it makes junior look like a complete clown instead of just a half wit.

[chiburb]

34. Do you need to insult ho's?

:-)

[noonwitch]

27. Then where are they, Condi?

Maybe Saddam destroyed them after Clinton did the strategic bombing? Not that any of you will tell the truth if that is the case.

[Cocoa]

52. a very good question

she would probably answer by talking about mass graves and rape rooms, however.

[DrBB]

32. Saddam lied!

Right up to the end! Yup, he kept saying over and over that he didn't have any WMDs! And he didn't! But that means it was HIS fault! Because why would he say that if it was true? If he wanted us to believe it, he shouldn't have said it! The wily bastard!

[loudnclear]

36. All I want to know is the REAL source of the phony intelligence!!

Who are we protecting? Surely if the real source of such erroneous and false intelligence were our friends the Germans or French, the US media would be blasting it all over the place ad nauseum and FOX would be relentless about it. Even if it was the UK or Istaly. My theory is that we would only go to this length to keep the sources unknown if it were our own CIA or Mossad. My bet is on Mossad because this administration would love to further debase the CIA since they have been trying to blame 9/11 and the bad intelligence on the CIA and FBI. My bet is that it was the unquestioned and never vetted intelligence from our good friends the Israeli Mossad that was the source, if not the originator, of all the bad intelligence that we received about Iraq and now about Syria and Iran. The silence of the media about this is deafening!

[maxanne]

35. she's beginning to sound

just like the Iraqi Information Officer, denying the impending invasion of Baghdad.

[Zhade]

37. FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.

These people are dangerously unstable. They believe black is white and white is mauve.

Here's what concerns me the most about this whole "Iraq Propaganda Tour '03!!" approach that disturbs me:

Bush at times will reach beyond the Washington media to try to drive his point home with regional and local press corps, the officials said. The United States is also beefing up press operations in Baghdad to provide more live video opportunities and greater access to U.S. and Iraqi officials.

Translation: exert control over the media to massage the masses' minds.

"Welcome back, my friends, to the Nazi show that never ends..."

[Speed8098]

38. This from a woman who said,

"We never had any idea that planes would be used as missles."

What cave has she been living in.....Oh, that's right, the one where Osama lives.

Idiots, everyone of them.

[dbt]

39. What if bullshit like this had come out of the Clinton White House?

The militia groups would have been lined up on Pennsylvania Avenue by noon!

:grr:
dbt

[Ilsa]

40. She forgot to mention all the

nuclear materials that disappeared after the start of the war because no one was guarding them anymore and they got looted...

[Barrett808]

43. Kay was strangely silent about that

Add to that the fact that the UN inspectors still haven't been allowed back in, and the IAEA inspectors were allowed to look at only one of the seven nuclear sites at Tuwaitha. Makes me very suspicious of Mr. Kay's efforts.

[coldwatercyn]

53. Baghdad Condi

I can hardly wait for the t-shirt. Liars and the blah, blah, blah.

[young_at_heart]

41. Is this woman supposed to inspire our trust?

She seems to think that we all immediately believe everything she says! Nothing could be farther from the truth!

[jackstraw45]

42. Rice is a PROVEN liar

I believe NOTHING she says.

NOTHING.

[maggrwaggr]

44. "make no mistake -- I'm not black, and I'm not female"

Also, the moon isn't actually in the sky, it's an illusion set by evildoers. Uh, and what else can I lie about today?

[Ramsey]

45. Harbor ambitions??

Can she make these speeches with a straight face anymore?

Let's see, we went from imminent threat and nuclear holocaust launched at the US within 45 minutes, not to mention 10 billion tons of anthrax, VX and other nasties loaded into illegal missiles aimed at Israel...

To, not an imminent threat and obviously no WMD used against the US invasion forces because Saddam couldn't get to them in time despite months of blustering by the Busihes or because he sent them to Syria so they would'nt be found....

To, there are weapons there buried all over the place, we just need time to find them given more time...

To, OK there may not be any actual caches of weapons, but there is evidence of weapons programs, despite the denials of all those scientists that Saddam wouldn't let us interrogate so we had to topple him to get access to them...

To, Saddam "harbored ambitions" of obtaining weapons of mass destruction, but had no actual weapons capabilities or active programs, not to mention no actual weapons.

Saddam may have been daydreaming about all the weapons he wanted to, how the hell does that even begin to justify the invasion of Iraq?? She is so pathetic!!

[lovedems]

46. Maybe she should leave out "dis"

I would believe her if she said, "Iraq...never armed"

[coldwatercyn]

55. Powell and the UN

Remember when Colin Powell played those tapes for the UN, supposedly showing an intercepted Iraqi cell phone call in which two Iraqi’s are warning each other when the UN Inspectors were coming and where to move “the stuff” next. Now that was high drama. Condi is going to have to try harder if she wants to compete with the big boys. Cheney and Rumsfled will have to show her how.

[uhhuh]

61. Remember this?

When there were reports that Saddam had guys driving around in cars and trucks 24 hours a day loaded down with WMDs to keep the inspectors from finding them?

Or how about the three phantom tankers that were sailing all over the world, loaded with WMDs, that ran under radio silence to keep the WMDs from being discovered?
And I'm crazy for thinking LIHOP or MIHOP are possible???

[tom_paine]

47. Right up until the end, Condoleeza will keep on lying

The Busheviks do have an awful lot in common with the Hussein/Ba'athists.

Luckily, they are less violent...for the moment.

[leetrisck]

49. He's trotting her out again like a little puppy dog

er - lap dog - she has lost all credibility (if she ever had any)

[Jinx]

50. Oh, Rice says that, does she?

It would be interesting if someone credible, aka not INVOLVED in the WMD fraud case to begin with, would come out and say something similar.

As it stands now, dead people have more credibility than these yokels.

I have yet to see one major figure who was AGAINST the war come out and say "oh, I was wrong." All we see are the same tired con-artists telling the same tired stories.

[coldwatercyn]

51. Condi?

What the hell are you talking about. I guess I don't understand English. Yikes

[Gman]

56. I want to be a fucking astronaut

that doesn't mean I'm within 45 minutes of being one.

[screembloodymurder]

57. To PHD @ large

Condi, you was put there to take the fall. Shallow throat goes belly up.

[quaker bill]

58. They know that some people

will buy this load of manure.

They want to believe and will hang on to any shred they can find. It is denial.

"We have found no actual weapons" enough said.

There was no imminent threat to us.

[Manix]

59. ..this twit has completely lost it....living proof of Peter Principle....

...she is in way over her head!

[wellst0nev0ter]

62. Hmm, That's Strange

The AP article on Yahoo has deleted the operative statment "Condoleezza Rice told a foreign policy forum in Chicago that the team led by chief U.S. weapons hunter David Kay 'is finding proof that Iraq never disarmed and never complied with U.N. inspectors.'"

Has the "librul media" struck again? :eyes:

[pescao]

68. where in the piece was that paragraph?

let's see her proof! also, do u think this quote

"Our own history should remind us that the union of democratic principle and practice is always a work in progress."

is really a subtle reminder of florida 2000, plus the threat that they're gonna do it again in 2004, nationwide, and that any of the librul media that dont get back onside are in for a roasting?

[Solly Mack]

63. Lack of oxygen? drugs? booze? hit on head at birth?

what exactly is wrong with Constipated Risotto? I'm beginning to feel a smidgen of pity for her.

[Dr Fate]

66. So why didnt Sadddam use the WMDs on the troops?

Did he forget where they were too?