Rove: Dems Didn't Get 9/11 Consequences

[truthpusher]

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/1-06222005-506146.html

Rove: Dems Didn't Get 9/11 Consequences
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By: SAM DOLNICK (Wed, Jun/22/2005)
NEW YORK -
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(snip)

"Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers," Rove said. "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."

(snip)

Rove said the Democratic Party made the mistake of calling for "moderation and restraint" after the terrorist attacks.

"Conservatives saw what happened to us on 9/11 and said we will defeat our enemies. Liberals saw what happened to us and said we must understand our enemies."

(snip)

"No more needs to be said about the motives of liberals," Rove said.

complete story: http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/1-06222005-506146.html

[democracyindanger]

1. You must understand your enemy if you hope to defeat them

No more needs to be said about the idiocy of Rove.

[bpilgrim]

40. they dusted off their 02 standby script but the Dem's voted for WAR, too

now we are finding out that the reTHUGs have been lying to us and underfunding homeland security efforts not to mention TRASHING OUR MILITARY.

much more needs to be said to set this horrible record straight.

peace

[kodi]

54. sun tsu, art of war, 6:18

"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle."

[D-Notice]

100. What if you know your enemy,

but don't know yourself? ;-)

[aresef]

119. See the last part of that quote. "If you know neither..."

[Born Free]

65. speech boils down to democrats = spineless

This idea is confirmed on a daily basis by our elected democratic leadership. There comes a time when all good people must stand up to the opposition. If your country would be taken over by another, would you fight back or learn to cope with the occupation? Well, in a sense, our country has been taken over and occupied by an evil right wing mentality and it is only by legally standing up can we return America back to the normal people. As with all occupations, some will approve, some will try to ignore or cope with it and a few will fight back, they will do what it takes to win back their country. The American people know the current right wing, cult like occupation of our government is wrong but when they look to democrats, all they see are spineless individuals trying to learn the best way to cope with change, rather than try to make it better for Americans. The GOP uses this against democrats every day and unfortunately, most times when a democrat does stand up for America, the other democrats refuse to support that cause. You can hate Rove for taking advantage of the "democrats=spineless" point, but it is the truth that really hurts and more often than not the statement that "democrats=spineless" is true.

[GiovanniC]

87. And How Much You Wanna Wager

That the Democratic leadership in office will not respond in kind to this vicious attack?

You'll get someone like Biden who will say, "Hmmm.... I don't think Karl Rove has it completely right, but he raises an interesting point that we should perhaps study further."

Then you'll get someone like Schumer who will say something like, "Karl Rove shouldn't try to divide Republicans and Democrats by saying mean stuff about us" (?!).

Then, you'll have a Kerry type saying, "On September the eleventh the year two thousand and one, the American people confronted exigent circumstances to wit: the eradication of a number of edifices prompting a rejoinder from government which...."

Then, you'll have a Lieberman type say, "I think Karl Rove is completely right. Democrats suck ass."

And then you'll have a Howard Dean type who will say, "Karl Rove can shove it up his pasty white ass. Just because his dumbass monkey puppet of a president is too fucking stupid to see any nuance more subtle than 'blow em all up' doesn't mean that the whole world works that way, and if that lying piece of shit wants to tell me to my face that Democrats didn't care enough or understand the consequences about 9/11, I'll show that little worm a reasoned response."

And then Republicans and Democrats alike will do the one thing they can all agree on: rushing to the nearest camera and microphone to strongly denounce Howard Dean.

[ckramer]

102. You wrote some cool stuffs

Karl Rove is a redneck in power. That's about it.

[Enraged_Ape]

122. I won't take that bet

Because I know you are 100% correct.

Great post.

[Sterling]

113. Great post.

nt

[dave29]

2. yeah, you wouldn't want to understand your enemies

or anything crazy like that. Or come up with any plans on how to deal with them. That would be crazy. Fanatical crazed and rage filled attack are always the best approach to an enemy threat.

Idiot.

[leftchick]

73. and it worked so well too!

Afghanistan is being taken over by the Taleban again and look at Iraq! Now there is a shining example of freedom and opportunity!

[aresef]

3. Conservative Idiot of the week?

I think so.

[catzies]

5. I think so too, and welcome to DU!

:hi: aresef!!

[aresef]

12. That's Welcome #4!

...I've been here for about a month. :P Thanks anyway!

[William Seger]

56. Lying motherfucking pig turd of the week

[Career Prole]

4. Lemme explain something to you, you tub of shit...

WE ARE DEMOCRATS BECAUSE WE "GET IT"!
:rant:

[Julius Civitatus]

45. We need to star DEMANDING an APOLOGY from Rove

What this Machiavellian twisted mind just said was offensive to ALL Americans. Many of those who died on 9/11 were Democrats. Many of those who lost relatives on 9/11 were Democrats. The bastard talks like 9/11 was exclusively a Republican affair, and that everyone else should follow his bullshit. Enough!

Pass it along to all your friends:

KARL ROVE SHOULD APOLOGIZE FOR HIS OFFENSIVE REMARKS.

ASAP!!!

(I would also like to see Lieberman, Obama and Biden asking for Rove's apology, just like they asked for Dean and Durbin to apologize for their less offensive remarks.)

[bklyncowgirl]

69. Damn straight! DEMAND AN APOLOGY FOR THIS HATE SPEECH

Republicans whimper and whine when criticized while in the meantime spouting the most malicious divisive rhetoric imaginable.

Let's see if our vaunted Democratic leadership jumps on Karl Rove as fast as they jumped on Dean and Durbin.

[renaissanceguy]

103. I demand he go

CHENEY himself!

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues/428793

[Inland]

6. So did the conservatives defeat the enemy? Or give us a net increase?

Of course, Rove doesn't care about victories over THOSE enemies. He cares about victories over domestic opposition. It was a great success politically, since he was able to package Bush as fearless leader and dems as being soft on terror--as if understanding was the end, not a means to the end of victory over those who would attack us.

But victories over our countries enemies? How's that going, Karl?

[iconoclastic cat]

15. This says it all: Iraq is a terrorist training ground, CIA says

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?floc=NW_1-T&oldflok=FF-RTO-PLS&idq=/ff/story/0002/20050622/1438553980.htm&ewp=ewp_news_0605iraq_terrorists

Iraq is a terrorist training ground, CIA says

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The CIA believes the Iraq insurgency poses an international threat and may produce better-trained Islamic terrorists than the 1980s Afghanistan war that gave rise to Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda, a U.S. counterterrorism official said on Wednesday.

A classified report from the U.S. spy agency says Iraqi and foreign fighters are developing a broad range of deadly skills, from car bombings and assassinations to tightly coordinated conventional attacks on police and military targets, the official said.

Once the insurgency ends, Islamic militants are likely to disperse as highly organized battle-hardened combatants capable of operating throughout the Arab-speaking world and in other regions including Europe.

Fighters leaving Iraq would primarily pose a challenge for their countries of origin including Saudi Arabia and Jordan.
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[truthisfreedom]

7. bullsh*t, rove. you guys rigged the voting machines, robbed the Treasury,

God knows what else to gain your position of thug power. everything you've said before and since has been about manipulation, not about truth.

[Erika]

8. Iraqis were our enemy?

Don't quite think so.

[Mythsaje]

9. Meanwhile, anyone with more smarts than Billy-Joe-Bob Fundy

pauses a moment and says to themselves..."yeah, but..."

Nice job, KKKarl.

You're not even in Dean's league. Even when he screws up he's hitting you where it hurts.

[GetTheRightVote]

10. But you & * with no planning from beginning to end are just great ??

He has got to be kidding himself. How stupid is this guy ?? Or should I say, how stupid does he think we are ??

:kick:

[geek tragedy]

11. Lying asshole (Rove is one, that is).

The vast majority of liberals fully supported military action against the Taliban.

[bunkerbuster1]

77. Where does that dipshit think Chimpy's 91% approval rating came from?

That fucking MORNING of 9/11, I was ready to go and fight if my Commander-in-Chief needed me.

Like their constituency, the vast majority of elected Democrats were wholeheartedly behind using military force to fight the militants. That's a matter of public record.

I know it's piling on, but fuck you, Karl.

Fuck you with a rusty chainsaw dipped in anthrax.

[Tesla]

90. OOOOOUUUUCCCCCHHHH

"Fuck you with a rusty chainsaw dipped in anthrax."


That'll do 'em though!!!

[truth_is_extreme]

13. Rove's brain works like a 12 year-old's

fortunately for him, 60% of Americans are eternal 12 year-olds

[earthboundmisfit]

14. No. Liberals saw what happened & said, "We must find out who our enemy IS"

And guess who it turned out to be?

edited to correct one of the glaring grammar errors (the others will have to stay)

[geek tragedy]

17. Osam bin . . . Osama bin . . . Osama bin something or other. eom

[aresef]

120. Osama bin Forgotten, to most of America, unfortunately.

[Cha]

16. rove..you fat fuck..

you don't get that you screwed up the Middle East..FUBARED!

Cause of your GREED for oil and contracts and power.

Oh, and you could have stopped 9/11 if you hadn't been out gorging and satifying your appetites.

Clinton left you plenty to go on but you ALL ignored it.

bush took his August vacation and IGNORED the August Memo..and you FUCKS have been LYING about it ever since.

[Robbien]

18. Yeah. We would have had Bin Laden in custody within the week.

And we wouldn't have gone around bombing countries which had nothing to do with 9/11 making the world more dangerous.

And of course we weren't foolish enough to fall for the fear campaign BushCo was waging.

[Barak And Roll]

19. "Conservatives saw the savagery and prepared for war"

If by "prepared for war" you mean used Bill Clinton's war plan, then yes, by all means.

[neohippie]

110. hah, they prepared for war like 2 years before 9-11

yeah right they prepared for war and didn't prepare to stop 9-11

they were focused on Iraq instead of terror, this is such a farce

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1028-01.htm

[meti57b]

20. Lemme see, Durbin's comments caused more danger than Abu Ghraib?

What a bunch of losers. They didn't get OBL. They made Iraq into a problem that wasn't there before. They've bankrupted the federal treasury.

[LordshipLadyship]

21. someone better respond to that formally

God damn filthy son of a bitch, I'm fed up with them making an effort to say I don't care about the deaths as much as they do. Dean better respond to that.

[still_one]

22. rove is pure evil

Years down the road there will be blow-back from the actions of these evil men

Somewhere in Iraq, there is a child who lost his parents, a parent who lost his child, and they won't forget what has been done in our name

The seed has been planted, and everyday it gets nourished by the death and destruction we throw upon them for a war based on a lie

Damn these merchants of death

[Oversea Visitor]

23. No Rove all this come to bite you

Cause you going to lose the congress
the senate
the presidency
Then the files be open
Then the people will know
WHERE CAN YOU RUN
WHERE CAN YOU HIDE

No Rove you heard the tick tick on the wall you cant stop time
Its ticking towards the undenailable fact the truth will one day be told.

JUST A MATTER OF TIME. Then all the wrongdoers will be strip STRIP of all their ILL GOTTEN GAINS and punish for their crime.

See you can fight time, you cant hide from it, you run from it.
Time change everything. You are top dog now but the clock is ticking.

[old blue]

24. I thought the conservative leader saw 9/11 and said, "Pretty goat"

[Oversea Visitor]

39. Aaah

I see My Pet Goat Rove is very pretty OK OK
I think this make more sense

[Julius Civitatus]

46. He ran off to Nebraska...

...and came out of his hidey hole late that day, when it was safe.

We remember.

[icymist]

25. And Rove puts another wedge into dividing the American People!

Why do you hate America Mr. Rove?

[Julius Civitatus]

Dems should DEMAND AN APOLOGY FROM ROVE!!!!

Democrats and their families were also victims on 9/11. His comments are nasty, mean, and divisive.

[icymist]

26. Self delete/Duplicate post! n/t

[neverforget]

27. I hate this man

[killbotfactory]

28. That's untrue and offensive

I demand an apology

[kimchi]

29. They MUST be scared.

I've been on this board five minutes and all I've seen is reps maligning our patriotism. Won't work this time, bud, the people are onto you.

[bpilgrim]

47. Rove is the last Pitcher in the 'BULL(shit) PEN

they are in BIG trouble and they show it.

peace

[Ready4Change]

30. Vigilante vs Fighter Pilot mentality.

Vigilante: I'm so pissed I'm gonna hang people till I get the right one!

Fighter Pilot: What is the other guys plane capable of? What does his training make him prone to do? How can I defeat that?

The Bush administration has approached this war on terror with the vigilante mindset. Makes you wonder what Bush was doing in the TANG, doesn't it. (Or maybe explains why he was never sent to 'Nam.)

[PartyPooper]

31. Am I the only one around here who *hates* to click on "Rovian" threads?

I despise the man / animal that he is. After all, he was a college drop-out who only excelled at pushing mediocrity within Texas when he "campaigned dirty" for Junior as governor.

But, most intelligent and / or informed individuals don't buy a single thing he has to say. In Texas or anywhere else!

Karl (KKK) Rove is simply a pompous, over-rated and ignorant POS!

[mbee]

32. I doubt there's enough gullible rednecks to swallow that line of crap

and that's why they had to commit election fraud!

[Dr Fate]

33. You have to understand the enemy BEFORE you can defeat them.

But you are lying anyway- but you knew that.

[Dr Fate]

34. Will Top Democrats demand an apology for this divisive lie?

Rove is basically saying we were not for fighting terrorism- when we FULLY SUPPORT going after Bin Laden and most DEMs even went along with Iraq.

This is a divisive lie about half of the population in a time of war. I demand an apology.

[Cha]

108. Yeah, will they? I want to

hear at least from biden, ford, and the rest of the Dems who had something negative to say nationally about the Chair of their own party.

[Dr Fate]

118. If they do, it wont be orchestrated or even on TV.

They will "realese" a statement that no one will hear and then point back to it when the base complains they are not fighting.

[gulliver]

35. The consequences were ...

... that a pudgy, unethical, half-wit gets to masquerade as a political genius. Oh yeah, and bunch of lunatics got to start an unnecessary war.

[KeepOnPushin]

36. Rovian Logic is weak.

"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not your enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle."

The Art of War
Sun Tzu

I hope Rove keeps believing his own fake press. It just makes our job that much easier.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

37. "prepared for war with a country uninvolved in the savagery of 9/11"

Words of wisdom from bloated sack of pig excrement Karl Rove.

[Straight Shooter]

38. It is now clear to me that Rove beats his kid senseless when he misbehaves

It's so obvious that he's appealing to the blind rage chromosome in the so-called conservative mentality. It's also obvious that Rove was picked on mercilessly in his nerdy youth.

Why must America have to keep paying for the dysfunctional personalities of the bushes and of Rove?

[Triana]

41. BECOMING Terrorists will not defeat terrorists...

and Rove and bu$hit, Rummy, the whole cabal are TERRORISTS. They have become part of the problem.

[Julius Civitatus]

42. ROVE SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO THE NATION!!!!!

ASAP!!!

I want to see Lieberman and Biden asking for Rove's public apology.

[NightOwwl]

51. They are too busy excoriating Dean...

for calling Republicans the party of white Christians. That's so much more harmful than insinuating over half the country are traitors. :sarcasm:

[OKthatsIT]

43. 9/11 was an inside job,. These mind control ploys will fail.

don't even react to this chump. Stay focused on the Truth.

[Sterling]

126. Yes, I agree.

They will milk it until we fit them for a set of orange jumpsuits.

[orwell]

44. Head of State

"Conservatives saw what happened to us on 9/11 and said we will defeat our enemies."

So why didn't they send the Marines into Cheney's command bunker?

Problem solved...

[NightOwwl]

48. He just accused me, my mother, my sister, my husband...

my sister-in-law, my brother-in-law, my mother-in-law, my father-in-law, my grandmother, my grandfather, ten of my friends, eighteen of my co-workers, my electrician, my plumber and my mailman of being Anti-American. I could continue, but I'd be typing all night.

Did he forget that most Americans are disgusted with this war? Does he have any idea how many people he insulted with those comments? Keep it up Karl...I enjoy watching you dig the graves of this entire administration...and yours along with it.

[pacifictiger]

49. I hear big time desperation in his tone.

Trash and distract strategy.
In spite of massive weaponry, the enemy has not been defeated.

And the very fact that Bush is belatedly (35yrs) visiting Vietnam - a war lost in spite of supreme weaponry, won through diplomacy and time - speaks so loudly of the true effectiveness of the preferred, sane, democratic approach.

[Pirate Smile]

97. Bush's poll numbers drop like a rock and Republicans are running away

from him so Rove is trying to change the subject back to 9/11 and put Democrats on the defensive by his standard lies and trying to equate Iraq with Afghanistan/OBL since Iraq is now unpopular.

[lumpy]

50. I am one spittin' angry old Gramma.

I'd Like to take that little SOB on for a week and straighten him out!The little snot needs to do some damn hard manual labor, put on a diet and forced to recite the Constitution, Bill of rights from memory. And if that didn't work sent to boot camp. The little bitch needs straightin' out.

[Tesla]

95. Go Gramma!!

My favorite line...."The little bitch needs straightin' out."

[teryang]

52. Impeachment and indictments

Instead the perpetrators are sipping mint julips and watching their defense contractor stocks rake in the money.

911 was an inside job. It's called treason.

[oasis]

53. Condi saw the PDB saying"Bin Ladin determined to strike in U.S." and

saw no savagery.

Bin Ladin crept while Condi slept.

[Straight Shooter]

109. Oooohhhh. You nailed it. eom

[Pystoff]

55. Exsqueeze me????

I got news for that pigeyed bastard...

The minute I was called by my mother telling me to turn on the TV I was glued to the scene unfolding on 9/11. I saw less than 5mins later the second plane and about 2 mins later she called back and I answered her with "It's Bin Laden". I didn't think twice I knew instantly and she replied that she thought I was correct. Later she tells her co-workers (Bush voters except for 1) that it was Bin laden guess what? They never heard of him (except for the one non-Bush voter). So you see the lack of knowledge an average Bush voter has about their enemy and how they are easily duped?...and how much of a liability they are to our country. Rove knows this brand of "genius" well apparently because he's still trying this line of garbage when it's played out.

As for piggy saying "the Democratic Party made the mistake of calling for "moderation and restraint" after the terrorist attacks." I wanted Bin Laden killed his body burned and his bones ground into powder so I could drink him with some tea. You know the real enemy piggyboy?

"No more needs to be said about the motives of liberals," Rove said. But much is yet to be said about the motives of neo-cons piggy...It's called Downing Street Minutes sucker.

[ngGale]

57. He could have used the word 'compassion' ...

isn't that what they are suppose to be? Rove is a lying piece of pond scum. They love the war, but hate the warriors - they love money. 9/11 could have led to peace, but Rove and his henchmen didn't have that in mind.:grr:

[NVMojo]

58. I would love it if it is ever proven these rat bastards were connected to

the 9-11 activities!!! I would want this fat bastard stir fried to wolves!

[Oversea Visitor]

61. First

get democrats in power
Then for appetizer trace the airline stocks speculation and see where it lead.
Then let the fun begins

[NightOwwl]

59. Will this please put to rest the theory that Dems...

have to weigh the reaction from Republicans before they do or say anything.

Most Dems supported the war in Afghanistan (justifiably IMO.) Most Dem "leaders" supported the war in Iraq (wrongly IMO) because they were scared about being typecast as the party "offering therapy and understanding for our attackers."

What the fuck difference did it make? We could have had Rambo and the Terminator as party mascots, and we'd still be "the party of pussies" according to Rove. The minute Bush started pressing for war in Iraq, Dems could have and should have been the anti-war party.

For crying out loud, if we are going to get shot down no matter what, we might as well stand up for what we believe in.

eta: Next Rove will be calling Durbin a cowardly wimp for not standing up for himself. When will they fucking learn!

[NightOwwl]

60. Email Biden, Obama, Lieberman...

Demand apology NOW!

Biden: http://biden.senate.gov/contact/emailjoe.cfm

Obama: http://obama.senate.gov/contact/

Lieberman: http://lieberman.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm?regarding=issue

[Lecky]

139. Sent emails :)

Thanks for the email addresses, please don't stop reminding people to take action. We need people like you to motivate DU'ers to make some noise.

Everytime something like this happens we should all overflow our democratic leaders with phonecalls and emails.

[deacon]

62. They wiill say and do anything to get people off talk of the DSM

Maybe they should try him for treason too.

[LibDemAlways]

63. How sick is this demented bastard?

Dems were all for going after the perpetrators of 9/11. The BFEE was ready to attack Iraq the next day. The evil slimebag is trying to rewrite history.

[habitual]

64. The problem is with the premise.

He is purposely having people focus on the macho reaction using the supposition that we have reacted properly and achieved a success there.

We have failed so far and the argument he is saying is then: We reacted properly, but it was clearly a failure. That can't be smart-guy!

And they continually tie 9/11 to Iraq without concern. They clearly do not need to be concerned, because the more they imply it along with no one calling them on it, the more it seeps into the sheeple.

[Disturbed]

66. Rove is scum.

Islamic extreemists, the Bush Regime and Fundie Fascists are on top of my list. I know who my enemies are. I have studied them and their methods.

[Solly Mack]

67. Osama who? Osama where? By Rove's logic...attack anyone

no matter if they attack you or not...

Oh wait...that's what America did and continues to do...

Saudi Arabia, Rove...Saudi Arabia...can you say it? You can when it puts money in your pockets.

[TomClash]

68. He's got it backwards

"Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."

More like Conservatives were preparing for War and saw the savagery of 9/11.

[Sterling]

127. Change it to this

More like Conservatives were preparing for War and saw to the savagery of 9/11.

[mn723]

70. I don't get it....

Aren't the righties generally supposed to be moral Christians? What would Christ do in this situation? Declare war on an oil rich country or find a peaceful solution to the problem?

In my opinion, working for a peaceful solution will take longer and probably cost more, but the results would last much longer. War only leads to more war and Bushco has us on a dangerous path.

[cap]

71. truth doesnt matter

Rove is propagating the Republican as strong father meme; Democrat as mushy mother.

It's just propaganda. Dem's never called for moderation and restraint after 9/11; wanted a narrow hunt for Osama (who he?) and Al-Qaeda. Republicans wanted justification for war.

[agincourt]

72. Once more a criminal swine lies,

to cover up the worst case of treason in our nation's history. And the only real case of moderation and restraint was investigating LIHOP. I wish there was a day of reckoning for these lying pigs. We are more dependent on foreign oil than ever before. Bin Laden is still alive and well thank you. Al Gore would not have let 911 happen. Our army is tied down in GWB/Grover Norquist ego war while the real terrorists go free. But that pig can shit out of his face and the sheeple believe him.

[obreaslan]

74. But wasn't Bin Laden our enemy...

"Conservatives saw what happened to us on 9/11 and said we will defeat our enemies..."

We set out to defeat our enemies by lettting them get away. That'll teach them!

In case Rove forgot...

OSAMA BIN LADIN IS STILL FREE AND LAUGHING AT YOU AND YOUR DANCING MONKEY!!!!!!!!!

[Logician]

75. Rove's Sounds Bites for Consumers

This is not about highlighting differences between conservative and liberal approaches to war or working with the enemy.

These are neo-con sound bites designed to easily imprint negative images of liberals in the minds of the masses.

Easily digested, it paints liberals as out of touch-- offering love and understanding to the enemy.

We need to craft easily digested sound bites which smear Rove as a dishonest political consultant who will say anything to remain in control.

Is it any wonder why Rove emerged this week in particular? Shrub is now becoming known to most Americans as a total failure and a liar. Time to take the focus off of Bush!

[noamnety]

76. Republicans have a deep-seated aversion

to indictments.

[Nightwing]

78. Democrats MUST demand an apology!!

Any Dem worth his/her weight in salt had better come forward to condemn and demand an apology over these completely insensitive, ignorant and divisive comments by *'s brain, Karl Rove.

How many times must it be proven that Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11?? Why is Osama still running free?? And why are families of victims of that tragedy being trashed once again for political purposes?

I am waiting patiently for now Dem leaders, but many of you had better be heard on this outrage. If not, my support and admiration for you will be in a steep decline!! DEMAND AN APOLOGY NOW!!

[DrZeeLit]

107. Wouldn't you just LOVE to see Rove cry.. apologize and cry.

He should be forced to pull a Durbin.
Where do I sign the "make him apologize" petition??

[Nightwing]

79. Duplicate Post

My apologies

[JerseygirlCT]

80. Talk about requiring apologies!

But I sure won't hold my breath.

[DoYouEverWonder]

81. Rove is totally out of order

to further politicize 9-11 is despicable but what should we expect from such a rabid partisan? Someone forgot to tell him that when you 'win' the highest office in the land you are suppose to park your partisan bullshit at the door.

I demand an apology.

[liberaliraqvet26]

82. I guess there were NO liberals in Manhattan that day

only 80% of Manhattan is liberal you cherub bastard

[iwillalwayswonderwhy]

83. 9-11 AWWWK! 9-11

When the news is bad, squawk 9-11! Quickly!

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[madmom]

84. Someone needs to remind...

these conservative dickheads it happened on there watch.aka bush style taking responsibility.

[WestHoustonDem]

85. Rove left something important out

What he meant was "Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 in the attacks and prepared for politcally exploiting and reaping the profits of war"

[Pryderi]

86. Do you think Rove knows that...

he's one of the false prophets?

Matthew 24:

4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

[dumbshrub]

92. Oh, man

I just got out of the shower and now I read this. This liberal has wanted from day one Bin Laden, and I would have been glad to tear him into a million pieces all by myself. This piece of crap has the gall to say this? Now I'm ready to tear him up into pieces instead. But I guess I'll have to go back into the shower, I just feel dirty again.

:puke:

[Maeve]

88. Actually, what we didn't get was the depths to which Rove would stoop

And his viciousness in the pursuit of power...

[lumpy]

133. Rove is genetically

corrupt.

[HughBeaumont]

89. THIS is our enemy, Pigshit (Rove's new name).

Yes, that's right . . . STILL FREE. Of course, that's how you guys wanted it, right? Capture him, and who would you have left to fear, right? The US is all big and juggernaut-like when attacking countries the size of Texas but try messing with a REAL nuclear power when no one's signing up for your "military".

By the way, if you think ANYone's getting an apology from Pigshit, you'll be a waitin' mofo. That little thing about Lancelot Link never admitting to wrongdoing? Learned that from Pigshit.

[Donailin]

91. Liberals saw what happened to us and said we must understand our enemies."

and this is a bad thing?????

this is EXACTLY what Jesus said/did and preached.

For the love of God will some Democrat not only OWN that statement, but define and use it against them by pointing out that their method has FAILEd will continue to Fail!!!!

[July]

93. Hey, Karl, indictments worked out with the first WTC attack.

Clinton put the architects of that one in jail. Where's Osama?

[KeepItReal]

105. Yeah Karl would diss Law Enforcement...his kind do things above the law

Think about it.

Plus there's no profit in doing good Police-work.

Follow the money....

[sattahipdeep]

94. No official in any agency has been reprimanded or punished...

Kristen Breitweiser, whose husband died in the World Trade Center,
said Goss promised her last September that the inspector general's
report would be made public.

Report criticizing CIA may stay sealed

By WARREN P. STROBEL
Knight Ridder Newspapers

6-22-2005

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/11959380.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

[Tesla]

98. Where is Osama Bin Hidin??

Why are we in Iraq when Osama isn't?
Why are you trying to tear our infastructure as a Nation down?
We all worked together, those days after 9/11.
I got in an argument with my Mom because I said we had to back Bush at this time.
I had flags everywhere!
My Grandfather and Dad were Patriots, both fighting for this country, that they LOVED in WWI, WWII, and Korea!
They were Democrats....or would you call them "Fodder"....Mr. Rove


All I know is your milk-toast whimpy self couldn't tie their shoestrings.
They were real men...

[sattahipdeep]

116. Goss recently said he has an "excellent" idea where Osama bin Laden is

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0621/dailyUpdate.html

Should Karl Rove resign for insulting me? Sure. But
Im more interested in the resignation of any Bush
administration official who knows where bin Laden is and
argues against going to get him.

http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/2005/06/004069.html

[democrank]

96. Conservatives prepared for war?

Right. They went on CNN, MSNBC, Fox "News" and any other outlet they could find and lied their asses off.

Karl Rove has about as much credibility on the subject of war as Bill Frist has on diagnosing Terri Schiavo via videos.

Maybe the conservatives had a big meeting so they could learn about war first-hand from Vietnam war heroes Junior W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

[Toby109]

99. Just a couple of questions, Fat Boy.

Why no response to USS Cole bombing from the Bush Admin? Why did we send so few troops into Afghanistan and too late to catch bin Laden?

Thanks. I'll wait for your answers...........

[youspeakmylanguage]

101. Funny story...

I read when he was a child he plastered his bicycle with Nixon/Agnew stickers and promptly got his ass kicked by the other neighborhood kids for doing so. He claimed in the interview that they were all Irish-Catholic Kennedy supporters. I don't have a source but I think the interview was in an old Reader's Digest.

Apparently slowly dismantling our country is his form of payback, just as Rush Limbaugh's ranting and raving (not to mention his drug use) seems to stem from a horrible relationship with his late father.

[il_lilac]

104. no more needs to be said about the motives of liberals

read the memo Rove and tell me about the motives of conservatives again!

[tk2kewl]

106. You mean your plan didn't fool everyone, KKKarl

fuck you

[tinrobot]

111. This interview proves the they're desperate.

Rove rarely talks and gives interviews. Coming into the spotlight like this means that the people already in the spotlight (B*sh, Cheney, Frist) are not getting the message out. On top of that, the message is the same old same old finger pointing.

I smell desperation. I really do.

[Catfight]

112. Dems aren't the enemy, these people are just so whacked. nt

[lonestarnot]

114. We got it Rover....how you helped planned the events to scare

illiterate Americans into a war for lies to line your pockets! Too bad we get it so well you flaming freak!

[ckramer]

115. Maybe at this moment Karl Rove is snickering at the WHouse

"HEHE! Democrats! Didn't I get you!"

[Corgigal]

117. Oh, we Liberals "got it" alright

We got that a Republican administration sat on their hands while other liberals had to decide either to burn to death OR jump 90 plus stories. We saw you do nothing. You still have done nothing for those victims. You idiots got behind closed doors doing a circle jerk about Iraq. Who we know had not a damn thing to do with Sept 11th.

You allowed our people to be treated no better then Barbecued meat. You haven't avenged shit.

May you all toast in hell.

[Raster]

121. Although there are FAR too many problems, inconsistencies, etc. concerning

this misadministrations actions surrounding the 9/11 tragedy, the thing that to this day still astounds and angers me is the lies and actions bushco* has taken to SHUT DOWN EVERY VALID INQUIRY INTO 9/11. Remember, bushco did not even want to investigate 9/11. It wasn't until relatives of the victims--the "Jersey Girls"--that bushco* was forced to actually investigate. This misadministration's entire approach to 9/11 has been to lie, to obfuscate, to deceive.

Fuck you kkkarl rove. Hopefully soon you and your cohorts will be marched from the White House in handcuffs.

[Sparkly]

123. Kiss my Liberal ASS, Karl!!!

What a bald-faced LIAR!!! :mad:

[neuvocat]

124. I guess the State of New York didn't either.

Kerry got the electoral votes there.

[TankLV]

125. Yeah they responded - TO THEIR OWN LIES!

and their MADE UP WAR.

How does it feel to ask our soldiers to DIE FOR A LIE?!?!?! turd blossom?

The Democrats were right! YOU are the ones who started an ILLEGAL war based on LIES!

[mitchum]

128. Fuck you, Karl! It's very easy to understand why your mother killed...

herself. Too bad she didn't do it before she delivered you upon the world, though.

[Rex]

129. Rove just admits to LIHOP/MIHOP in his own arrogant way.

When he says we didn't get the message, he means we need to shut up or they will do it again!

Rove = cockroach.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

130. Rove's the descendant of a Nazi. Enough said.

[lumpy]

134. The Bush, Rove, Scwartzneger

Nazi connection is rather interesting isn't it.

[leesa]

131. Probably because we're smart enough to know BushCo did 9-11

for their own PNAC purposes?

[peacetalksforall]

132. On reading through this I thought why bother... the only people who

can't recognize the truth are the Praise Jesus, Bush is the Lord crowd which is getting smaller each day. Smaller, because some of these fanatics had enough of an education prior to being born again; prior to having their brain swapped out and turned over to a reverend - so that a trickle of logic and knowledge still gets through. Enough of them knew Dems who were equally in favor of going after bin Laden and the Taliban and whose sons and daughters joined and went.

(((But in reality, something happened with smart people on both sides in the days after when 1.) Atta's passport was found neatly preserved on the ground next to the WTC... and 2.) the Secretary of Defense and his team laughed with glee and joked about their 52 deck of card targets... and 3.) 9-11 was politically exploited by Republicans... and 4.) the guns were turned from bin Laden and Afghanistan to Iraq and Rumsfeld said that he didn't want to fight a war in Afghanistan - too many mountains or something. Then, lots of things started falling into place - it started with our enlightenment about the agenda and objectives of PNAC and we never stopped learning. We learned that we should have trusted Blix and the UN and Ritter more. And much, much more. It was all down hill from there. )))

What really happened last night is Rove accelerated the hate game against 'liberals'. He relabeled Dems. HE NEEDED to jumpstart a war against Bush's foes.

So flood your right wing friends with facts they already know. Yes, Dems are and were equally patriotic in swarms.

P.S. Tell them Liberals love and treasure the Constitution and Bill of Rights more than Republicans.

Tell them that other Christians believe the Psalm ... Blessed are the peacemakers.

[sattahipdeep]

140. (CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: OK, Kristen, Kristen, if you were president of the United
States the morning or the day before September 11, 2001, knowing all that
you know now, do some Monday-morning quarterbacking. What would you
have done to prevent this from happening? If you didn't know what airport
and you didn't know how it was going to fit together, but you had some
knowledge of what it might look, how would you have prevented it?

BREITWEISER: Undoubtedly, I think that I would have told the public. I
would have told people like my husband and the 3,000 others that worked in
New York City and that decided to fly on planes that day that we were a
nation under an imminent threat, that the airlines were a target.

And after the first building in New York City, then you know what? People
like my husband in the second building would have immediately fled. They
would have immediately evacuated that second tower, because they wouldn't
have thought it was an accident.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0312/S00175.htm

[Piperay]

135. LIAR...

Kerry probably lost the election cause of voting to go to war and then they LIE about it.:banghead:

[Astarho]

136. Keep waving that bloody shirt, Karl

After all, that's what your good at, isn't it? What else has your sock puppet done lately? With no health care plan, most Americans still literally can't afford to get sick. And almost 2000 Americans are dead in Iraq (Americans who would otherwise be alive, if the intel had not been "fixed".)

But keep going on about the "savagry" of 9/11, even though the main difference between this and previous attacks was the scale of it, and the fact that it happened to us. Just for a little perspective...
40,000 people die on the roads of America every year.
100,000 Iraqis are dead from that war.
Up to 300,000 people in Darfur have died from the genocide (I know you don't call it that) there.

And while you're at it, maybe you could tell us how 4 passenger jets can disappear and/or deviate from their flight plans, and no planes were scrambled to find out why? As I understood, that was Standard Operating Procedure. Or was it just a special case for Payne Stewart?

"Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments...
Funny, I thought that was how criminals were dealt with in this country.

"Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 and the attacks and prepared for war."
And how is that war against Saudi Arabia (the homeland of the attackers) going?

"Conservatives saw what happened to us on 9/11 and said we will defeat our enemies. Liberals saw what happened to us and said we must understand our enemies."

Others have mentioned it, but what the hell, I'll bring up Sun Tzu again: Know your enemy and know yourself and you need not fear a hundred battles...

"No more needs to be said about the motives of liberals," Rove said.
True, but there are lots of questions about your motives.

End Rant

[Kralizec]

137. This is full blown 1984 doublethink. They are putting their machine into

gear... don't expect them to back down when things start to tumble.

[olddad56]

138. The Democrats didn't get the consequences of 911?

The Republican voters sure didn't get the consequence of an illegal presidential election in 2000, because they were too busy celebrating their electoral victory (that the Supreme Court handed to them). They didn't get that democracy died in 2000 and freedom died in September of 2001. I think both events were carefully planned by the 'corporate fascists' (a nice way to say NAZI) to strip us of our civil liberties, confuse patriotism with nationalism and lay the groundwork for the illegal wars to gain world domination. I could be wrong, but if I can imagine it, someone is already working on it.

The poor republican voters, most of them still have no idea that their party was hijacked. They are still supporting it as though it still existed. They are even more pathetic than the democratic voters who still believe that the next election won't be rigged.

[nguoihue]

141. Rove

The neo thugs are getting desparate. They're in their last throes.

[KakistocracyHater]

142. Other than his hatred of his political competitors...

where's his proof? All I ever hear from Republicans are proofless words. They're just playing dirty, but they've sworn loyalty to Bush the man, while others prefer to keep their loyalty to the USA-that is the "patriotism" that progressives mistakenly attack, call it out for what it is: loyalty to Bush & the individuals around him.

[Coastie for Truth]

143. Rove is losing it in the Volunteer Emergency Responder Community

totally insulted by his remarks.

His own Department of reports

After September 11, 2001, America witnessed a wellspring of selflessness and heroism. People in every corner of the country asked, "What can I do?" and "How can I help?" Citizen Corps was created to help all Americans answer these questions through public education and outreach, training, and volunteer service.

in describing

The Community Emergency Response Team (CERT) Program educates people about disaster preparedness and trains them in basic disaster response skills, such as fire safety, light search and rescue, and disaster medical operations. Using their training, CERT members can assist others in their neighborhood or workplace following an event and can take a more active role in preparing their community. The program is administered by DHS.

.

Ham Radio's and - which are frequently interlocking and overlapping at the local level - reported major jumps in training,membership, and participation.

Meanwhile, governmental programs such as and both reported jumps in training, membership, and retention of new members.

And, of course, the stalwart of the Emergency Response NGO's the reported a massive jump in training, membership, and most important, retention of new responders.

One can only ask - where does Mr. Rove get his numbers and facts --- maybe from his medicinal marijuana.

Rove is losing it in the non-partisan, bi-partisan, apartisan volunteer emergency responder community. We are Democrats, we are Republicans, but we are all Americans first.

[johnludi]

144. Rove: doesn't "get" much of anything...

Let's see...

War in Iraq: Vietnam-like debacle
War in Afghanistan: Underpublicized Vietnam-like debacle
Osama Bin Laden: Free
Political standing of US in world: Demolished
American public: Divided, bitter, and increasingly
underemployed
American Economy: One step away from implosion
Armed forces: Understaffed, underequipped, and demoralized
 
Yes Karl, that tactic of not understanding seems to have
worked 
wonders...

[Massachusetts]

145. "No more needs to be said about the motives of liberals," Rove said.

[wishlist]

146. Bush was liberal then in helping Bin Laden relatives leave U.S. swiftly

Amazing that people seem to have forgotten that most of the hijackers were Saudi Arabian but Bush took pains to protect and assuage the Saudis immediately after 9/11 including expediting the flight out of U.S. for all of those Bin Laden relatives without any detailed questioning. And he proceeded to drop the ball against Osama Bin Laden to focus on his pursuit of the Iraq war.

[coolhandlulu]

147. lesson

here's rove==>:puke: heres conservative's response==>:yourock:
rove regurgitates and the repugs just eat it up!

[ArmchairMeme]

148. Distraction?

Is this another successful distraction? What is about to happen?

This seems to be in keeping with the past strategies give something to be distracted by and pull something devious.

Wasn't it * who said while you're trying to figure us out we will be changing everything.....

I'll be watching for the Friday night news bomb.