Calif.'s next governor sees Bush as fiscal ally

[ze_dscherman]

LOS ANGELES -- Stepping into his new role as California governor-elect, Arnold Schwarzenegger quickly faced the central challenge of his fledgling administration yesterday, struggling to explain how he would fix the projected $8 billion budget shortfall that prematurely forced his predecessor out of office.

In his debut as an elected official, Schwarzenegger repeated two of his main fiscal pledges: not to raise taxes, and to repeal a hike in the state's car tax. Appearing exhilarated after an unexpectedly strong showing the night before, the actor-turned-politician told reporters he intends to "open up the books" as soon as he arrives in Sacramento to see what wasteful spending can be eliminated.

But Schwarzenegger, a Republican, offered no new details for balancing the state budget, one of the central issues in the turbulent recall campaign. Instead, he said he would appeal to the White House directly for federal aid, hopefully meeting with President Bush when he travels through California on his way to Asia next week.

"I will make sure that I can meet with President Bush as quickly as possible, because I have a whole bunch of business, California business, to talk to him about and take care of," Schwarzenegger said during a short news conference at the Century Plaza Hotel. "There's a lot of money we can get from the federal government."

More: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/10/09/califs_next_governor_sees_bush_as_fiscal_ally/

[joefree1]

1. Does this mean Halburton will "rebuild" California?

Gods help us.

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=106&topic_id=3018

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http://www.petitiononline.com/schwarze/petition.html

For pics of the LA protest against bush go here
http://www.darrias.com/politics/Protest6-27.html

[robbedvoter]

2. It certainly means California will rebuid Enron!

Hey guys! When are you recalling Adolph?

[FlashHarry]

3. Gee, Bush has been so kind to the other states... why not CA?

:crazy:

[dusty64]

4. If any help comes NOW,

I would hope the People would see they have been royally screwed. Not betting on it though in light of the "intelligence" of the average voter.

[cmd]

7. Money will be pouring into California

The evil regime has to prop up their newest puppet.

[hadrons]

8. I wonder how the numbnuts in the red states will feel about that ....

still, Georgie has pretty much emptied the treasury, so I can't see that much going to Calf.

[cmd]

11. He'll borrow from my kids

Confiscate would be a better word than borrow. California will get a pay off.

[wryter2000]

13. I'm scared to death

I'm scared to death Bush* is now going to bail CA out. There are so many idiots here who are mad about the "car tax," getting rid of that could give Bush* CA.

[shanti]

15. YES, I KNEW this would happen

bush playing good cop/bad cop, depending on the ca leadership.

[Deb]

5. Dear Ahhnold, the line starts here -

After Pataki... --------------->

[The Backlash Cometh]

6. This is how the good-ole boy network is maintained:

I've seen it on a local level. City government will only respond to the community members that they can corrupt. So average Jane and Joe look to those community membes as leaders, never realizing that they're reinforcing mafioso-like environment in their own backyard.

[M155Y_A1CH]

9. Fed refused help

I seem to remember * denying aid to California.
After the Enron mess that created their debt
in the first place.

[loudnclear]

10. This will be even more proof that CA and Davis were set up as

punishment for not voting for the Repugs. The energy crisis was manufacutred and staged for just such a time as this. Now more money will be dumped into CA so that Arnie can get credit for rebuilding the state. It's all staged. Wonder what they have in store for the other "blue states?"

[metisnation]

19. * can touch this

let him come and try those trash tactics in IL. He will have civil war on his hands if he even tries..that is a promise.

No one messes with blue in IL

:mad:

[kentuck]

12. So the people paying taxes from states with deficits of their own...

will want their tax dollars going to California?? If we help California, will we have to help the 47 other states with fiscal problems? And what is it with hte capitalist system, it has to be bailed out daily with huge inputs of cash from the people...? Just as we expect to create a capitalist system in Iraq by giving them all our money? Capitalism looks like a rotten deal, if this is how it works. But, if Chrysler goes under again, do we bail it out again?

[wryter2000]

14. It's crucial

It's crucial that if the thieves in the WH try doing this that the other states realize they're being screwed.

[SammyWinstonJack]

16. He is as stupid as Bush*

"I have a whole bunch of business, California business, to talk to him about and take care of." A meeting of the minds. California is in big trouble. Bush* didn't give a rat's ass about Cally fornia before the serial groper came on the scene. That should be a wake up call for those who voted for Gov. Groper.

[The White Rose]

17. It won't be.

All they'll see is a governor whose strong enough to get the Feds to cough up the dough, unlike that milquetoast Davis. Whew, thank goodness we got rid of him...:eyes:

edited to add smilie (just want to be clear)

[kentuck]

18. Unless they have an earthquake or disaster....

then they can ask for $25 billion more than actual damages?? Congress never turns down requests for emergency money or money for our troops, a la the $87 billion for our troops in Iraq. Does anyone really think the troops will get $87 billion?

[MaryBear]

20. We need to get real, friends.

Of course, California will, under Ahnold, find the Bush administration more cooperative. Just as under a Dem they would not.

[Jack Rabbit]

27. Of course

However, we can be cynical about that -- vocally.

We can also begin undercutting any plans Arnold has about playing too cozy with that crook in the White House by suggesting that it is an impeachable offense for the governor of California to smile while saying the word "Enron".

[MaryBear]

30. We would be more effective

by sticking with facts and statements that others (not just our cronies here at DU) will listen to, Jack Rabbit.

[Jack Rabbit]

31. I stand by that

Here's some more discussion on the matter.

The energy compnaies manipulated a dysfunctional market to fleece California rate payers of billions. This was criminal behavior and should be treated as criminal behavior.

I want that money back with interest and damages. For the governor of California to placate the pirates is collaborate with the enemy against the people. It Arnold proceeds as indicated, he should be ridden out of town on a rail along with Ken Lay.

[MaryBear]

38. I think we need to be careful, Mr. Rabbit,

in our word choices. I do agree with some of what you say. We must remember, as Thomas Jefferson indicated, that the price of liberty is eternal vigilence. We need to be awake, and effectively draw attention to what we see. I went to your post on the thread you listed. It is a good post.

[Say_What]

21. CounterPunch: President Schwarzenegger?

<clips>

Movement Afoot to Amend Constitution for Arnold

Based on his win in Tuesday's California governor recall election, Arnold Schwarzenegger must now be considered the frontrunner to win the presidency in 2008. When his tenure in the White House ends in January 2009 after a second term in office, George W. Bush will be barred by the Constitution from running for a third term. That unfortunate predicament for George W., who's never been successful in any other job, will open the door to Schwarzenegger, who by then will be the standard-bearer of the national Republican Party, to assume the presidency.

There's just one little hitch in this plan. And it involves another section of the Constitution, the part that prohibits anyone who is not a "native-born citizen" from holding the position of president.

But why, you ask, wouldn't the Republicans just try to push through the Republican-controlled U.S. Congress and the Republican-controlled state houses a plan to get rid of the 22nd Amendment from the Constitution? That strategy would allow George W. to remain in office for as long as the American people would have him.

The answer is that it makes more political sense for the Republicans to promote an immigrant-friendly movement for giving naturalized Americans the right to realize the American dream of becoming president than to promote the heavy-handed and authoritarian concept of a career president.

http://www.counterpunch.com/hand10092003.html

[diplomats]

22. Arnold the front-runner in 2008? Please

And who says Bush is going to win in 2004 anyway?

[Sandpiper]

23. the silver lining to the dark cloud that settled over my state is...

The GOP has sold its soul and its so-called "morality" to get Schwarzenegger in through the back door. Ahnuld is no champion of conservative social issues. I think this is really a blessing in disguise and will be the start of the a schism within the party.

[myomy]

24. Sum it up in two words, Dumb and Dumber.

.

[atreides1]

25. This Is His Great Plan...

...To get a handout from the Federal government. I really feel sorry for the people of California, but the people replaced a sitting governor based on him being unpopular.

Too bad this doesn't work.

[Gloria]

26. Will someone ask Dreier why he wasn't fighting for the people of CA

when Davis was governor?? And will someone ask Bush why the Feds dragged their feet when Davis asked for help when the energy "crisis" was happening??

Is there anybody with a brain in the Democratic party there who will start asking those questions????? Repeatedly????

[SammyWinstonJack]

33. Excellent questions

Ones I have asked myself(though I already know the answers) and ones I want our Democratic Leaders to ask as well. No better time then the present for these questions to be asked and you're right, REPEATEDLY!

[proud patriot]

28. I really think it's dumb move on Ahhhhhnold's part

Do Californians like bush ?

[Jack Rabbit]

29. Californians are like voters in most places

Californians are like voters in most places. They're fundamentally apolitical.

Davis was recalled because what most Californians percieved is that whatever he was doing was not working. Nevermind the high talk of Madisonian structures from George Will, Jeff Goldberg and Jack Rabbit. You don't racall a governor unless he's really guilty of malfeasance? Baloney, the voters said. This was a simple vote of confidence.

There is no complicated, classical political theory behind it. The voters simply gave Davis a vote of no confidnece. The state constitution gave them the opportunity to vote out a governor mid-term for no better reason than that they percieved he couldn't do the job to which they had re-elected him less than a year earlier.

Schwarzengger won because Caliofornians percieved that he would win and thus vanquish Davis. That was silly, since the questions of whether Davis should be removed and who should replace were separate. Frankly, I had as much confidence in Mary Carey's ability to solve the state's problems as I have in Arnold's. I can forgive the voters for removing Davis for reasons short of malfeasance much more easily than I can forgive them for replacing him with a sophomoric matinee idol.

No, Californians don't like Bush. They will use their own judgment in the presidential election next year. Perhaps Bush thinks he can buy the state by giving favors to a Republican governor that he withheld from a Democratic governor. However, voters will see through that and judge Bush on a bigger picture. Things may be better in California a year from now than they are now. Nevertheless, if voters realize that things still aren't that good and think that Bush could have done for Davis what he was willing to for Arnold, they will hold that against him. The Frat Boy still has an uphill fight for the soul of this state.

[warrior1]

32. Doesn't

monies coming to California have to be approved of by the congress?

So you've got people on both sides of the aisle with angry voters asking where's our cut.

This should be the message if to dumb to be president tries to bail out my state.

Who's fucking tired of this shit.

[SammyWinstonJack]

34. Who's fucking tired of this shit?

I sure as hell am! Govs. from every state in the Union met with Bush* pleading for Fed dollars to bail out their states and Bush* told them to go pound sand. If Bush* bails out Arnie and California, I'm sure those Govs. will remember what Bush* told them, they won't be happy campers. 'Course the repuke Govs. will probably won't scream too loudly.

[dutchdemocrat]

35. Yea the money that

Bush would not give Davis when he told him after the power debacle...

"It's your problem."

[jamesinca]

36. If I remember correctly

Arnold had meetings with Ken Lay prior to the rolling blackouts and the Enron fall. If I remember right, Arnold is set to get CA out from under the Enron contracts by getting about $0.03 on the dollar. CA would get 270 million and be done with the Enron contracts that were signed by Davis. That 270 would be a federal bailout. Davis and Bustamonte in particular were pushing for the entire $9,000,000,000 not 270,000,000. There is a lot less zeros trailing the Arnold number. I think Bush will do this and here is why: Bush will think this will make Arnold a great Governor and he thinks it will immediatley deliver CA to him in '04

[DeathvadeR]

37. AHHH OOOOOO......... BUCKET ANYONE?

"I will make sure that I can meet with President Bush as quickly as possible, because I have a whole bunch of business, California business, to talk to him about and take care of," Schwarzenegger said during a short news conference at the Century Plaza Hotel. "There's a lot of money we can get from the federal government."


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