POLL: 49% Say Bush Responsible for Provoking Iraq War, 44% Say Hussein

[wookie294]

49% Say Bush Responsible for Provoking Iraq War

44% Say Hussein

June 23, 2005--Forty-nine percent (49%) of Americans say that President Bush is more responsible for starting the War with Iraq than Saddam Hussein. A Rasmussen Reports survey found that 44% take the opposite view and believe Hussein shoulders most of the responsibility.

In late 2002, months before the fighting began, most Americans thought that Hussein was the one provoking the War. Just one-in-four thought the President was doing the provoking at that time.

The biggest change in perceptions has come among Democrats.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/Provoking%20War.htm

(Rasmussen is a Republican pollster)

[skooooo]

1. OMG

bwaahahahaahahahahahaa

[ET Awful]

2. Holy Shit . . . If Rasmussen says that, the numbers are probably more

like 55 say Bush :)

[Kurovski]

8. I was just gonna say!

The margin of error!

George always seems to get the benefit of the doubt there

[Jackpine Radical]

45. That woman sure gets around,

Marge Inoverra.

[Kurovski]

48. Heheheh...She can be very politically useful.

[NewJeffCT]

3. wow, is the tide turning?

i hope so...

[grytpype]

29. I would say the tide is turning....

... a plurality says Bush provoked a war that a big majority says was a mistake and not worth it.

We are going to witness the biggest and fastest political implosion since Nixon. Only Bush is too stupid to resign.

[NewJeffCT]

37. he won't resign, true...

but, it's scary to think what he could do.

[senseandsensibility]

40. Truly scary

considering what he has already done, and the fact that he is brainless. He will literally do whatever he is told.

[Kurovski]

49. Really, it 's true. They've not secured our ports,

They let nuclear material from the former USSR slip out into the world, They've done near to nothing to protect us, and they "Couldn't figure out" dozens of warnings prior to 9/11.

Godspeed, everyone.

[katty]

64. bush w/provoke some kind of attack - they KNOW they

don't have much time.

[JoFerret]

59. Wait for new terra situation

...but wolf, wolf!

So more think bush responsible. The Democrats are coming home. About bloody time they woke up from the 9/11 induced trance.

[katty]

63. Feeling the shift of the tide? This is amazing

[BamaLefty]

4. Why do they say Ras Is a GOP Poll?

I hear that a lot on here but I have never noticed a bias in polling.

Maybe I don't pay enough attention to polls? Somebody straighten me out. :)

[IChing]

17. look at the sample of the survey for a hint.

The telephone survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted by Rasmussen Reports June 20-21, 2005. The margin of sampling error for the survey is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence.
37% of survey respondents were Republican,
37% Democrat, and
26% unaffiliated (see Methodology)

Do you see anything wrong with this methodology?

[Kadie]

19. Look at bushie's approval numbers

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

their approval numbers are always higher than the other polls.

[gratuitous]

5. That Bush!

He's a uniter, not a divider.

[geek tragedy]

6. Why do Americans hate America so much? eom

[Kurovski]

50. We don't understand our freedoms.

But Uncle Karl will explain it all to us. :-)

[BattyDem]

7. I'd love to ask that 44% ...

how exactly Saddam Hussein provoked the war? He didn't attack us, he allowed the inspectors in and he didn't fight back while we were bombing him (illegally) during the summer of 2002.

:wtf:

[wookie294]

62. They still think Saddam was involved in Sept. 11 n/t

[info being]

65. It would be interesting to find out that percentage...

and then say in the article: Those people are simply wrong. Oh, wait, the media isn't supposed to just say the obvious truth.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

69. That's correct

There are still many misinformed individuals out there who don't care enough to seek reality vs. that which is easy for them to understand.

They were the perfect victims for this administration. Stupidity seeking out like.

[MisterP]

9. 44% say Chinese aggression provoked Tojo

[maddezmom]

10. can't even get a repub pollster to give them good numbers!

:rofl:

[deadparrot]

11. Damn, that's gotta hurt.

Not me, luckily. On the contrary, that figure makes me want to :woohoo: :toast: :bounce:

[meganmonkey]

13. I'll join your party!

:woohoo: :toast: :bounce:

:party:

[sasquatch]

12. Well I'm glad the sniffing salts are starting to work

Now let's give them some coffey.

[bluestateguy]

14. So a plurality of Americans are "Blame America firsters"?

Careful conservatives! You live by majoritarianism, you die by majoritarianism.

[Patty Diana]

15. Check out bush's fucking mandate in this AOL poll

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050621111609990001&ncid=NWS00010000000001

[msongs]

18. why not tell us what it says (briefly) for those of us with dialup? eom

[IChing]

23. just a on-line poll with no statistical validity except

It's on AOL which is conservative.


How would you rate Bush's overall job performance?
Poor 63%
Excellent 16%
Good 11%
Fair 10%
Do you consider Bush a lame duck?
Yes 68%
No 32%

2256

[UpInArms]

25. here's the ao-hell poll

How would you rate Bush's overall job performance?	
Poor	60%	
Excellent	18%	
Good	12%	
Fair	11%	
Do you consider Bush a lame duck?	
Yes	67%	
No	33%	
Total Votes: 2,126

[Ian David]

22. Done and kicked

How would you rate Bush's overall job performance?
Poor 63%
Excellent 16%
Good 11%
Fair 10%
Do you consider Bush a lame duck?
Yes 68%
No 32%
Total Votes: 2,238



Bush hasn't been without his successes this year, but below are some of the more high-profile challenges he faces.

Do you agree with the way Bush has handled the Bolton nomination?
No 79%
Yes 21%
Will he get Bolton approved in the end?
No 65%
Yes 35%
Total Votes: 1,455


Do you agree with Bush on Social Security?
No 80%
Yes 20%
Will he get his plan through in the end?
No 86%
Yes 14%
Total Votes: 1,336

Do you agree with Bush on Iraq?
No 79%
Yes 21%
Will his policies succeed in Iraq in the end?
No 79%
Yes 21%
Total Votes: 1,279

[Arugula Latte]

42. HOLE-EEE Crap

63 percent "poor." Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

[JoFerret]

61. Wow! Unscientific (as they say) but fun

- now- aol users tend to be fairly mainstream kind of folks. Usually fairly conservative in their little polls. Recently anything BushCo/ Iraq has been slammed.

[Mojambo]

16. That's a very surprising poll result

I might have to pick up and dust off my faith in the American people.

[ooglymoogly]

21. bush getting trashed on aol poll of all places

[daleo]

20. Amazing that 44% still blame Hussein.

But it is an improvement.

[deadparrot]

24. Could be that folks don't want to look

like they're defending Hussein by saying that ** provoked it. Even though that's NOT what the poll asked, Hussein was a monster, and people might see an anti-** response as being pro-Hussein. :shrug:

[daleo]

34. The vaunted social desirability bias

Where you don't want to say something to the pollster that isn't considered correct by most of society. Could explain some of it.

[bunkerbuster1]

67. Definitely.

Even I'd have to think twice before putting specific blame on one or the other. Hussein's hardly blameless, after all.

[IChing]

26. look at the poll sample in post #4 which explains somewhat.

[daleo]

36. They do seem to be oversampling independents. n/t

[comsymp]

68. Actually, just the opposite

They're significantly oversampling R's... slightly oversampling D's and underrepresenting I's -- IIRC, R's generally make up around 25-28%, D's = 33-35% and I's about the same.

Google isn't currently being my friend, so anybody with more accurate numbers can jump in here.

[daleo]

70. I was just estimating by the 2004 election result

Assuming R and D were about the same. Of course, that is not really the correct way to estimate for this matter, so I will go along with your numbers.

[4_Legs_Good]

27. OMG, that ANYONE thought Hussein provoked the invasion is rediculous!!!

Did he EVER threaten us? Did he just invade one of our allies? Did he more recently than 1991 threaten one of our allies? How in the world could he have provoked war???

Huh???

david

[aquart]

28. 78% of Dems. 52% of Inds. 17% Republicans.

Believe Bush started this war all on his own.

52% of Independents believe it!

But, for Rasmussen, Republicans have not wavered. This is going to make for uncomfortable primaries.

[Robbien]

30. Who are these 22% of Dems who believe in Bush? I don't get it

There is the same number of Dems in the popularity polls who say they agree in Bush and think he is doing a good job.

Who are these Dems? How can you believe in the party of the people and also believe in the give to the rich Bush?

[wookie294]

31. My brother claims to be a Lieberman Democrat

I think the 22 percent you're wondering about are the Lieberman types. My brother is hard core in favor of the Iraq war and claims to be a "Lieberman" Democrat, but even he has started to question the war. In fact, he doesn't want to talk about it whereas last year he screamed "We're gonna find those weapons of mass destruction!" LOLOLOL!

[Celeborn Skywalker]

33. Around here (southern NM),

it seems like most Hispanic families are pro-war. There is a very strong military tradition here but at the same time these families do vote democratic.

[enigmatic]

32. Wow....

I'd do a "this is HUGH!!!!!!!!11111111" line, but seriously, this IS huge.

[I Have A Dream]

35. Kicked & recommended. n/t

[neuvocat]

38. I honestly wasn't expecting this.

[Arugula Latte]

43. I know. After 9-11 it seemed like Americans would swallow anything.

And they did, for a looooong time. Now all the lies and crap they choked down are starting to come back up on them.

[mzmolly]

39. Thankgoodness! My faith in my fellow Americans is gradually returning.

:patriot:

[grannylib]

41. And just what do these 44% think Hussein had done???

God, what morons.
Of COURSE Chimpy did it...he'd been practically hopping up and down with anticipation, kind of like my grandson doing the pee-pee dance.
I swear, some people lined up twice for oatmeal, instead of getting the grey matter that BELONGS between their ears.

[Disturbed]

46. Amazing that any blamed Hussein.

because he was co-operating with Hans Blix Inspection. I guess it is the Bush Regime along RW Corp Media that put that false notion in people's minds.

[tibbir]

44. Wow, maybe the public is starting to think a little

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

47. The tipping point is here!

If you haven't written a letter to the editor lately, now is the time. Use the DU Media Blaster to contact newspapers in your region to get this word out.

[Unforgiven]

51. Thanks

for that link, spreading this around


and Kick!

[LightningFlash]

52. Try more like 59%, you lying sacks...

[dchill]

53. What we got here -

is failure to catapult - the propaganda.

[dArKeR]

54. Responsible for Crimes Against Humanity. 1. Impeach. 2. Trial. 3. Convict

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/photo/2005/06/24/2005037818

[Barkley]

55. I wonder what % of Iraqis blame Bush for the war? -eom

[LynnTheDem]

56. Why isn't bush winning 100% to 0?

It wasn't Hussein that attacked and invaded in an UNPROVOKED "PREEMPTIVE STRIKE" and it wasn't Hussein that made any threats whatsoever.

I mean hello stupid 44%...WHO attacked WHOM here???

[llmart]

57. And why isn't Tim Russert peeing all over himself.......

with his nonstop "popular wartime president" shit???

I'm not as optimistic as most of you when you say you are starting to gain respect for the American public again. I don't give the majority of them that much credit. Why did it have to get this bad before they woke up? And how quickly would they jump on the Bush bandwagon again if another attack occurred? Would they ask the hard questions and delve deeply into why or just listen to the MSM and drink the Kool Aid?

[Roland99]

58. Damn traitors! Why do these people hate America and our troops??

:sarcasm:

[MadisonProgressive]

60. How can that 44% still be that dumb?

[Doctor_J]

66. I wonder what results would be in a world-wide poll?

Smirk - 97
Saddam - 0
Osama - 3