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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:01 AM
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CEOs use magic, psychics
http://finance.news.com.au/story/0%2C10166%2C15727217-462%2C00.html

CORPORATE Australia is turning to the occult in a bid to boost its bottom line, employing psychics and witches as alternative business consultants.

Self-employed professionals, small business owners and executives in major, publicly listed companies are among those joining an expanding network of "covens" organised by businesswoman and self-described witch, Stacey Demarco.

The former public relations manager turned pagan and author of There's A Witch In The Boardroom said people were looking for new ways to combine spiritual values with their material success.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:02 AM
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1. Sounds like a GREAT way to scam corporate American out of some green...
I'm going to have to think about the ethics of that...
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:11 AM
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2. They will become known as "Cotillions" n/t
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:18 AM
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3. There are definitely people who rely on psychics for the stock market.
I know such a person, and she does very very well for herself. I've been tempted to consult her psychic, but I think the stock market is gambling and I don't like to gamble with that much money.

I don't advocate anyone doing this but a private individual, though. It raises too many ethical concerns.


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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:51 AM
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4. It was good enough for Reagan. n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:54 AM
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5. and the Nazis
or is that redundant?
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:33 PM
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17. APOLOGIZE YOU!!
HOW DARE YOU INVOKE THE N WORD??

jk :)
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 01:09 AM
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6. Need to read the bones, nothing else seems to work. To bad!
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 02:00 AM
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7. HEX the HELL out of the competition &Enchant the masses to buy your items!
With the competition dead or in the hospital it makes it much easier to subliminally coax the weak-minded masses to buy YOUR product!
All's fair in business and war.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 02:01 AM
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8. That private sector is so pragmatic and efficient. EOM
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 04:43 AM
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9. What a sad use of one's gifts. n/t
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 09:58 AM
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15. Pagans and witches I know are not like this...
:eyes:
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Domitan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:49 AM
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10. I read some "old" books from a Victorian bookstore
Well, it was from the 1980's, but that's old enough for the pups here. This book was well-researched on psychics as it didn't declare proof of existence of PSI. It focused on historical and modern issues related to PSI or lack of PSI. Readers were left to decide. Anyway, in the book, not only did psychics figure prominently in the police department, they were most prominent in the business world, especially Wall Street. So this is nothing really new...just more boldly proclaimed in the media now.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 07:52 AM
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11. Any fellow pagans out there ever read "Lamas Night"?
don't remember the author but it was about british witch covens that all came together to cast a spell in WWII to infuence Hitler. Break his will to invade britian. If the evil empire is using magick maybe it's time for something similar.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 08:56 AM
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12. They must read "Dilbert"..
I swear my higher-ups do...

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 09:19 AM
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13. CEOs use magic, psychics
CEOs use magic, psychics

June 26

CORPORATE Australia is turning to the occult in a bid to boost its bottom line, employing psychics and witches as alternative business consultants.

Self-employed professionals, small business owners and executives in major, publicly listed companies are among those joining an expanding network of "covens" organised by businesswoman and self-described witch, Stacey Demarco.

...

Ms Demarco's coven meetings cover commercial issues as well as spiritual questions and also provide networking opportunities.

...

In the past few years she has helped establish three large covens in Sydney and runs workshops on "business magic" from her offices in North Sydney.

http://finance.news.com.au/story/0,10166,15727217-462,00.html
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 09:19 AM
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14. RAY-GUNS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:37 PM
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18. I cast Magic Missle
CEO : I cast magic missle at the CFO, and he takes (rolls dice) 48 hit points of damage.

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crowcalling Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 12:09 PM
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16. What?
You mean I've been doing this for free all this time - using magic due to impossible deadlines and precognition on project cost estimates, and I could have been charging big bucks???? OH MY but how I am kicking myself right now!

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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-26-05 01:11 PM
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19. Bwah! How quickly the Woo-woos forget...
Edited on Sun Jun-26-05 01:12 PM by onager
Doesn't anyone remember, less than 10 years ago, when PsYkiK advice helped to bankrupt one of the richest county govts. in the US?

Jebus. The dopes who believe in this nonsense just never learn, do they?

PSYCHIC, ASTROLOGER INFLUENCED CITRON, GRAND JURY TOLD

In the frantic days just before Orange County declared bankruptcy because of its disastrous investment practices, top officials were told that then-Treasurer-Tax Collector Robert L. Citron relied upon a mail-order astrologer and a psychic for interest rate predictions, according to testimony before the county grand jury.

Matthew Raabe, then assistant treasurer and Citron's chief aide, made the disclosure in a secret meeting with county officials in December 1994, as they struggled for ways to cope with a horrifying $1.64-billion collapse in the value of the county's investment portfolio, former County Finance Director Eileen T. Walsh testified.

"Matt said, 'Bob had a mail-order astrologist that gave him interest rate predictions and a psychic he consulted.' I thought we were in a lot deeper problem than anyone could possibly imagine," Walsh told grand jurors.

Walsh testified that Raabe's comments came after Jean Costanza, an outside attorney frequently used by the county, interrupted the assistant treasurer to warn him against talking about the psychic, telling him, "Matt, you can't say that. Don't talk about it. It's hearsay. You are not allowed to say it," according to Walsh.

After hearing Raabe's account of the mail-order astrologer, Walsh said she asked the county counsel whether Citron "was competent to be doing what he was doing..."


LA Times, December 28, 1995
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:09 PM
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20. another view of magic
...Modern advertising is a form of magic, and ....modern consumer societies can be seen as "magician states" in which social control is primarily maintained not by violence but by manipulation through magically charged images. It's a crucial insight; when people treat, say, fizzy brown sugar water as a source of their identity and human value, their resemblance to fairy-tale characters under an enchantment isn't accidental. They're quite literally caught up in a spell.

Those who aren't used to magic may find it easier to think of spells as stories. Quite a lot of magic, in fact, can be understood as storytelling. The mage uses symbol and ritual to tell a story, and makes it so spellbinding that the listeners come to believe that it's real -- and then make it real by their actions. Magical combat is a struggle between storytellers, in which each mage tries to define a common reality in terms of the story that best serves his or her purposes. The struggle between the global corporate system and the activist community, to build on Culianu's insights, can be seen as a conflict of magicians telling opposing stories.



http://www.visionaryactivism.com/greerletter.pdf

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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:43 AM
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21. Good post ...
... and one further point supporting it is the "magic" of the financial
markets ... gamblers trading guesses about how other gamblers will pay
for intangibles at some time in the future ... "payments" with pieces
of paper that have no value ... the whole house of cards that only
continues to stay up as long as no-one notices that the bottom layer
has been gnawed away ...

Yes, I think a great many people are relying on one form of magic or
another for their everyday lives ...
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