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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:14 PM
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Bush Drug Czar: Test For Drugs In Schools
BOSTON (AP) -- President Bush's drug czar told New England governors Wednesday that drug testing in schools would be an effective way to combat a growing problem of drug use among young people, but area school officials caution there are problems with it.
The region's six governors and John Walters, director of the Office of Drug Control Policy, met at Faneuil Hall in an anti-drug summit focusing on New England's heroin epidemic.

New England has more people ages 12 and over dependent on illegal drugs than any other region of the nation, according to Walters.

Heroin as cheap as $4 per bag has made it easier for young people to get hooked, he said.

"This is a tool that will make a difference," Walters said of drug testing of school children. "It's time has come."

http://www.benningtonbanner.com/Stories/0,1413,104~8676~1686268,00.html
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:18 PM
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1. Be better to/..
Test for drugs in the white house and congress.
Test for drugs of Radio Talk Show Hosts.

Just my opinion
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 06:08 AM
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26. when are people gonna realise
that in the mind of the republican elitist you are guilty allways suspect, and that big buisnesses have the rights over people, if they could just see damnit, but thier all blinded by the religious crap they shovel.
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:19 PM
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2. Just another one of our failed wars
n/t
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 04:34 PM
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16. Which one Afganastan or the War On Drugs?
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 05:21 PM
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20. All of the above
n/t
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:21 PM
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3. right - include all on-air radio hosts also
and election-defiling governors

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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:25 PM
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4. The Bushies are really big fans of the Bill of Rights, aren't they?
Article IV (of amendment)

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:30 PM
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5. I thought this was an idea...
whose time was past.

Haven't there been enough court battles over drug testing already?

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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:31 PM
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6. Hasn't Walters heard about Oxycontin and Rush Limbaugh?
oh, seems that's no longer in the "news"

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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:35 PM
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7. There are NO studies quoted...no stats to indicate what the DEA and
the drug czar says is fact??? Heroine as I am to believe does not lead to 'dependency' it leads to 'addiction'...WTF...when they gather the 'southern governers' will they spew the same crap?

Because I say it..it is true? No studies sited but people who have the most oar in the water of the 'drug war' have stated this? :wtf:
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:38 PM
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8. anyone tells my kid to pee in a cup
is getting a very serious beating. I'm not kidding. When will these friggin nazis learn to stay away from what I choose or choose not to do to my own damn body?
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 03:44 PM
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9. Thank you!
Homeschool, here we come!
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 04:00 PM
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10. Homeschool - (almost) the only way to fly
I so strongly believe in homeschooling - for many reasons. Luckily, I currently live in a school district that works with its homeschoolers, so whenever any children I might have are ready for it, there won't be any hiding. Plus, the district gets its funding, since the child is counted as being a student in the district. Win-win.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 04:27 PM
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13. If you're homeschooling via the state, who's to say your kids would be
exempt from the drug tests? :shrug:
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donotpassgo Donating Member (867 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 04:27 PM
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14. kids and teens don't have rights, but fetuses do?
twisted logic IMO.
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AwareOne Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 04:13 PM
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11. So now the thought police have to take your body fluids
to test if you are lying. Yeah, this isn't scary at all. In Bush's America you are guilty until proven innocent.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 04:14 PM
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12. Heroin leads to harder stuff, man . . . the next thing you know, kids
Edited on Thu Oct-09-03 04:14 PM by mistertrickster
will be free-basing nicotine in the bathroom and imbibing the addictive toxin, alcohol . . .
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 11:51 PM
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25. And there's so much heroin out there! n/t
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 04:32 PM
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15. Ahh, get this generation used to peeing in a cup now
And they won't bitch about it they have to do it for work, colege, loans, on command, whenever.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 04:39 PM
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17. Why not? Look at how well it worked for the Texas Air National Guard
uh, maybe that's not the best example...

:evilgrin:
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 04:40 PM
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18. Wonder which of Whistle Asses cronies
own a company that is going to be awarded the contract for supplying the testing supplies? This comes at a time when school districts are already desperate for money, and they want to do this? Has he signed away the entire Constitution with one of his famous executive orders?
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 05:02 PM
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19. Bingo!
Drug testing is a very lucrative business. The lobbyists for the industry are busily pushing for mandatory testing for students. Multiply the number of students in this country times the $50.00 or so (it varies) they charge for each drug testing kit, and you'll see there's a lot of cash to be made 'protecting' our children from drugs.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:24 PM
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22. The only thing is...
states can't afford to drug test kids already on probation. How are they going to afford this? Also, who would be the one to choose who gets tested and who doesn't?
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 05:21 PM
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21. Heroin as cheap as $4 per bag
Now where could all that cheap heroin be coming from?
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 10:13 PM
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24. It's a Racket
Afghanistan that's where! I said it before we went in there that we would see an upswing in heroin use in this country cause our CIA would be bringing it in!
War on Drugs.... a racket
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 06:28 PM
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23. Test for drugs at the Whitehouse and at EIB Radio n/t
n/t
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 08:16 AM
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27. Thank RUmmy and the CIA for the cheap heroin
Afganistan producing more poppies with the CIA help than in a decade.
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