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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:04 PM
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Bush to Ask Americans for Patience on Iraq
By NEDRA PICKLER
Associated Press Writer





FORT BRAGG, N.C. (AP) -- President Bush is asking the public to be patient on Iraq, hoping a backdrop of U.S. troops and a reminder of Iraq's revived sovereignty will help him reclaim control of an issue that has eroded his popularity.

In an evening address from a military base that has nearly 10,000 troops in Iraq, Bush was acknowledging the toll that the 27-month-old war has taken. At the same time, he aimed to persuade skeptical Americans that he has "a very clear strategy" that needs only time - not any changes - to be successful, White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

It was a tricky balancing act, believed necessary by White House advisers who have seen the persistent insurgent attacks eat into Americans' support for the war - and the president - and increase discomfort among even Republicans on Capitol Hill.

Democrats and other critics said the country needed more than what Bush's 2004 presidential opponent, Sen. John Kerry, called "happy talk."


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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BUSH?SITE=MNMAN&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2005-06-28-15-58-14
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:06 PM
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1. If THIS is really what he's going to try to pull,
he's fucked.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:12 PM
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5. that would be nice to quote you.
I hope he takes it like a man. lol.

How much patience is needed to support our colonization of Iraq for corporate and military needs? Even Kerry said we need to disclaim our permanent bases
Pure imperialistic colonial patience is what is needed now by the america people
peace with honor, light at the end of the tunnel, clear path to victory.

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:06 PM
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2. Instead of Saddam...we've now got...
..a hotbed of Islamic Militants over there. Is this BETTER? I think not. Furthermore, he LIED about the reasons for invasion in the first place.

I don't think the Public, at this point, has any stomach for 'more patience' with the debacle that is now Iraq.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:08 PM
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3. "Revived sovereignty"? Did I miss something?
Last I heard they wanted Americans the fuck out of there.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:12 PM
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4. Figures. Kerry has alot to say and Nedra Pickler picks up "happy talk"
I can't stand that Bushmoonie.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:18 PM
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6. Americans want to ask Bush for a strategy/plan
A little honesty might be nice as well.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:18 PM
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7. Let him speak.
The more he talks, the more obvious it is this boy-king has no clothes. His speeches are our best case for incompetence and impeachment.

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:41 PM
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8. Yes, we all know Americans are known for their patience....
:eyes:


:rofl:


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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:12 PM
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13. Right! As former colonists who fought a war for independence...
I'm sure we all will have "patience" for Bush's illegal war for empire based on lies.

I think now I might actually watch this charade tonight!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:05 PM
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9. If Bu$h had just a little bit of patience
when the UN Inspectors needed just 90 more days, we wouldn't be in this fine mess.

But no, mushroom clouds were imminent and we had to go to WAR NOW. He could not wait.

Now he asks us to be patient? Go Cheney yourself George Bu$h.


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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:08 PM
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10. THIS WAS GOING TO BE A CAKEWALK. REMEMBER????
Patience, my shiny metal ass!

:rofl:
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 04:10 PM
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11. Americans asked * for patience on Iraq before he invaded.
Why should anyone now pay any attention at all to his pathetic little focus group of debacle-orchestrating hawks?

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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:01 PM
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12. Question: who watches Bush more? Them
or us? The "them" being those who still believe in Bush as a leader. Because the people I know who voted for Bush never watch his speeches or his news conferences. They wait until the next day and then parrot whatever Rush has to say. Or Hannity. Or whoever their favorite spinmeister is. But they don't watch him live. They freely admit this.
So...who's watching?
I imagine tonight, the families of the soldiers at Ft. Bragg will be watching.
Who else? He's so incredibly painful to watch. It's excrutiating.
So...who watches? And why?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:13 PM
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14. People asking for patience usually don't have a plan at all.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:40 PM
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15. Asking us again, is he?
I get the feeling Bush will do a great deal of bleating and whining tonight with his speech.

The vetted troops will be there to hold his hand, but it would be a positive for the world if Bush finally had his "Captain Queeg" moment on the TEE-VEE.

I wonder what drugs they'll be pumping down Bush's maw for tonight's event...
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:43 PM
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16. Plenty of patients at Walter Reed as it is. Now he wants MORE of them?
More patients from Iraq huh?

Give till it hurts.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:44 PM
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17. If a single soldier of appropriate age were to scream "VIETNAM!!!",
would it change his reception tonight? Would it be discussed?
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:50 PM
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20. no, and the soldier will end up in Gitmo..
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:45 PM
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18. After what rumspuke said about being there for up to 12 years...
moron* can go eat shit.

Patience my ass. Hey asshole* what ever happened to they will great us with flowers, we'll be out of there in 100 days?

He's such a fucking failure* I hope he rots in hell and chokes on his words.
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:47 PM
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19. Maybe a Checkers speech will drum up sympathy
Time to drag out the terrier and get mushy. Add military music and a manly chorus humming in the background, and at least it will be more amusing than Antiques Roadshow.
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 05:52 PM
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21. what a fucking joke..
You, prick, have gotten more patience from this country than your sorry lying ass deserves. Fuck you and your speech!!

Let the countdown begin till your impeachment.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:06 PM
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22. **'s "new" mess age...
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 06:07 PM by Amonester

Posted 8/26/2003

"Bush urges patience in Iraq" :


http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-08-26-bush-speech_x.htm

:wtf:

~"catapult the propaganda"~"catapult the propaganda"~"catapult the propaganda"~

:puke: for how many years, again?
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:38 PM
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23. Patience is a British name for the game of solitaire
Which is what we are increasingly playing with our "coalition of the willing"
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:43 PM
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24. But... but... but...THE MISSION IS ACCOMPLISHED!! (was? was accomplished?
I hate him.
He's beyond an embarrassment.

Once in a while I slap my forehead... we are sooo doomed... we have him like an albatross around our necks for.... four.....more ....years.

Oi....oi.... the pain.
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live free or perish Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:31 PM
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25. CNN and MSNBC polls
CNN.com and MSNBC are both doing internet polls. The question
on CNN.com QuickVote is "Do you approve of President
Bush’s handling of the Iraq war?" and 74% of the
respondents are saying NO. MSNBC's question of the day is
"Was going to war in Iraq the right thing to do?",
and 72% say NO. I guess the freepers are too busy to vote in
these polls (yes, I know the polls are unscientific, but
freepers go to great lengths to rig polls and polling booths).
Polling is still going on, let them know what you think.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:33 PM
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26. FAMOUS LAST WORDS
This attempt at a sales-pitch for the "mission" in Iraq and for new recruits was an admission of *failure*.

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:37 PM
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27. maybe he should send Pickles out? she seems to to better working the
public. the taxpaying, disenfranchised voter public. remember, those people you stole the election from?
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:42 PM
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28. Some of the blooming rhetoric
was lifted right out of the Winston Churchill speech playbook. Bush's speechwriters are clever little SOBs. By God, these hucksters are trying to make WW3 out of this assault on the mideast.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 07:57 PM
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:08 PM
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31. "aLibGuy" ... hmmm, something a freeper would come up with ....
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 08:08 PM by hadrons
but unlike the knuckle-dragging 'morans' at FR, I'll give you the benefit ... what is the alternative, hmmm throw out the contractors like Halliburton and Bechtel, hire Iraqis ... some more troops would help, but the cowards on the right aren't enlisting
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:16 PM
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:35 PM
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33. too bad Dumbya and Dumsfeld didn't ask that question before invading ....
believe me there's more than enough Iraqis that have the capabilities and skills to take over most of what Halliburton is overcharging us taxpayers ... and it was Iraqis who built the infrastruture that the US has been destroying there since 1991
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:45 PM
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 09:59 PM
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35. oh, you were there in 1990 in the first Gulf War; interesting since ....
Edited on Tue Jun-28-05 10:00 PM by hadrons
the war started in 1991

There was a massive bombing campagin that crushed the Iraqi infrastructure to start the war (someone who claimed to be there would remember that ... along of the year when the war started)

And there was the Iran-Iraq war. Doesn't matter, they had electricity when Saddam was in power and they were pumping oil out of the ground too when he was there, so they have people who can handle it.

Its up to them and not you or President Stupid to decide if they want Halliburton or their own people to rebuild the country
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:08 PM
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:32 PM
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39. Search by author, LOVE that DU feature.
:)
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:16 PM
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38. UN involvement.
Saying USA made a big mistake, cut and run? How about not bombing and shooting people, how about giving soldiers training and equipment, how about reading more on DU on this, since you are a long time lurker. Welcome to posting adLibGuy. Keep reading.
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 08:03 PM
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30. Did anyone notice the last part of the speech..
it was a recruitement drive. He was trying to strike the patriotic bone in our youth. Hell, for a minute, I thought he was going to pull out a toaster or Playstation and exclaim, "If you join up now, you'll receive a free toaster or Playstation!"
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:09 PM
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37. Patience eh?
That motherfucker can shove my patience up his rosy red ass.

My SO's step dad, Bush voter, war supporter, volunteered to go out there. He is hauling fuel. He is the kindest, most caring, and funniest man I know. He would do anything for anyone. I have so much love for this man. Everyday I fear that we will get a call from his wife, to tell us the last thing in the world we ever want to hear.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:35 PM
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40. Fuck that liar and the horse he road in on....
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