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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:20 AM
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Only 39% in poll would vote for governor again ( CA )
Edited on Wed Jun-29-05 08:22 AM by pinniped
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/06/29/MNGCCDGGCE1.DTL

Only 39% in poll would vote for governor again

John Wildermuth, Chronicle Political Writer

Wednesday, June 29, 2005

The same California voters who gave Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger rave reviews in his victory in the unprecedented 2003 recall election aren't interested in a 2006 sequel by the actor-turned-politician, according to a Field Poll released today.

In a startling reversal of public opinion, 57 percent of the state's registered voters would not support Schwarzenegger's re-election next year, up from 42 percent in a February poll. Those who would vote to return him to Sacramento tumbled from 56 percent to 39 percent.

The governor, who has yet to announce a candidacy that has been taken as a given since his first day in office, finds himself running slightly behind two Democratic challengers, state Treasurer Phil Angelides and state Controller Steve Westly, in head-to-head matchups.

"There's a broad-ranging discontent among voters, with people turning away from the governor,'' said Mark DiCamillo, director of the Field Poll.
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http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/06/29/MNGCCDGGCE1.DTL
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Goodbye, PIG.

Oh ya, keep up the good work.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:27 AM
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1. why is it that these people
could not see through the hype during the campaign???

they were so gushingly starstruck it was nauseating.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:52 AM
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6. indeed
starstruck or simply ignorant (i've spoken to several of the ignorant). i don't know which one is worse!
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:17 AM
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10. More people voted No on the recall or Yes, but for someone other than Arn-
old, than voted Yes and for Arnold.

That's why they had to have the recall vote. There's no way Arnold could have won in a straight election.

And it looks like, unlike Bush, incumbancy isn't keeping him competitive. Maybe he should hope that someone blows up the Golden Gate Bridge and then he can blame Mexico and invade them with the national guard.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:06 PM
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18. Are you sure it's not the central tabulators striking again? n/t
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 11:06 AM
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16. Most people are stupid and have short memories
It's no mystery to me. The more people I meet, the more I appreciate the company of rattlesnakes.
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reggaehead Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:56 PM
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23. Something you folks dont seem to understand
Is that during the special election less than half the normal precincts were available. Large inner city areas like LA and Oakland were the ones that felt the pinch the most. While Orange County, and the San Juaquin Valley were hardly effected at all. It was just another case of Republican election rigging. If they can dampen the turnout they can even win in California.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 06:09 PM
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27. As one who lives in OC, I agree
I have said this many times. The stranglehold on this county is breathtaking. Remember the bankruptcy in 1994? No one was held accountable. I actually FEAR contacting my Rep. Our Kerry Rally last year drew about 60 people. What really made me mad was that no one from the Loretta Sanchez headquarters endorsed, advertised or showed up for it. President Clinton campaigned for her here (I was there) but she has not once returned the favor.
But voting places are everywhere, never a shortage.

As far as the groper is concerned, it is true, people actually think they now 'know a rock star' personally because they voted for him. Hopefully these poll numbers are right and enough will get him out of my state before he ruins it.

Sorry for the rant.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 05:07 PM
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24. He never had more than about 47% of the vote:
7.96 million = 4.41 (yes) + 3.56 (no) voted on the recall
Of these, AS got 3.74 million

So he started with about 47% = 3.74/7.96. That doesn't sound like a completely star-struck population to me.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2003/recall/
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 05:58 PM
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25. Rob Lowe was gushing over
the guy. "He loves his family!"
Well, hell, so do millions of other fathers.
Oprah didn't help much, either, with her fawning over him.
Can't wait till this whole bunch is gone.
America deserves so much better.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:29 AM
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2. This ...
.. (the California electorate) is a microcosm of the US. They elected a total unknown based on promises that he could defy the laws of nature (create money out of thin air).

Of course, CA is no better off than they were 3 years ago, perhaps they are worse off. If another politician comes along who will promise a solution to every problem but without costing them a cent, they will vote for him/her too.

Everyone wants something for nothing. Anyone still buying the "waste fraud and abuse" argument as to where their taxes are going, well those people are fucking morons.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:40 AM
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3. Americans really are the most clueless people on the face of the earth
aren't we?

These boneheads in California (not that there aren't boneheads all over the US) had stars in their eyes when they elected a fool like Arnold, and now they have buyers remorse.

I have an idea. Recall the bastard.

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:44 AM
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4. Well, FOOLS! What Did They THINK? n/t
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:20 AM
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11. They didn't realize that Enron was raping CA in order to hurt Davis.
They thought it was Davis's fault that the economy was bad. They didn't realize that Enron was pulling a Nixon-Chile-Allende on California.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 03:38 PM
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19. Most didn't--he was shoved down our throats by Enron
GOP created blackouts and high energy prices with deregulation

Blamed the resulting deficit on Gray Davis

Demanded a recall

Then in the quick campaign that followed, got Arnold in.

Ironically, Davis had to get a higher percentage of votes, a majority, than Arnold, who merely had to get the most votes of those running against Davis.

And they have the machines.

Hillbilly Hitler art:



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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 07:05 AM
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31. Sorry- Enron was Clinton's creation
and the so called energy crisis happened on his watch. Bush just inheritied the problem and made it that much worse....

And California's "deregulation?" That came out of a Democratic legislature with overwhelming support among Democrats (even though progressives and Greens warned them time and again what would happen).

It's easy to blame the Republicans for things like that because of course, they'd do it again anywhere they could- but it's important not to forget that Dems are fully capable and prepared to date rape you too, given half the chance.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:29 PM
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32. I don't give dems a pass on deregulation
Clinton and the DLC types were way too "business friendly," but Bush had a chance to intervene and ask FERC to cap prices, which he didn't do and they would be unlikely to do since bush appointed Ken Lay's choice to head that regulatory agency.

There should be a way to make this distinction so people know we aren't just giving blind allegiance to the Democratic Party, maybe say GOP and Republican with an asterisk (GOP*) and the asterisk would mean you include corporate whore dems.



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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:44 AM
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5. It's at times like these...
when I see denigrating comments from even DUers about California, that I so wish for California to secede from the union. But we have just enough republican influence here to keep that from ever happening.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:53 AM
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7. Here's hoping that some other....
state in this god-forsaken joke of a country has to go through what California had to go through in that recall. "I really want to vote for this guy, he's got some great ideas and seems sincere, but I have no choice but to vote for the other guy, only because he's a democrat and seems to be garnering the bulk of the attention, on the slight chance that doing so will prevent the republican from getting elected."
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:00 AM
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8. Hey Ahnuld - - Don't let the door hit'cha where the Good Lord split'cha.
:kick:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:07 AM
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9. ANd how many were stupid enough to vote for him the first time?
Apart from this 39% which are mindless and concentrating solely on partisan lines.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:22 AM
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12. I think only about 45% voted Yes-Arnold in the recall.
The other 55% voted either No-Arnold, No-Anyone else, or Yes-someone else.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:31 AM
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13. HAHAAHAHA! Seee? This is what happens to him! HAH
poor guy. he should put his wife up to take his place. heh.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 10:46 AM
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14. That's not all that different from what he "won" the recall with.
But it won't do in a normal election.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 11:02 AM
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15. Come 2006, Arnie will be in big trouble.
With strong grass roots to organize the people that Arnie pissed-off, Arnie will be in big crap trouble! I'd love nothing more than to see him trounced at the polls!
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Barkley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 02:07 PM
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17. Too bad California can't start unnecessary wars to rally the public around
Arnold. Scapegoating immigrants (a la Pete Wilson/ Prop. 187) won't work anymore either.

The man is pathetically incompetent.

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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:12 PM
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20. California just got bored. But we're not bored now.
I was blown away by the recall, and by Boobengrabber's election. I voted against it, and for Cruz. But -- WHAT?!! I think CA liberals are just a little lazy, hanging out in lefty paradises up and down the state.

Now -- everyone's good and pissed off. Republicans are due for a big fall here, unless they can stock the state with Diebold, which they are definitely trying to do. Screw these traitors. GOP out of CA.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:37 PM
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21. that's great since less than 50% of the population
voted in the recall election to begin with. So, adios you ugly piece of nazi shit.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 04:45 PM
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22. Looks Like Ventura Was Right
Arnie could never have survived a republican primairy. Which brings out to the question since Arnold favors abortion rights stem cell research and gay marriage has the catholic church threatened him with excummunication?
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 06:01 PM
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26. ahem... RECALL!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 06:09 PM
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28. That is now
Just wait until he starts dumping all the gazillions of dollars he's collected in fundraising into his re-election campaign.

I'm cynical to believe that he will buy his re-election without too much difficulty.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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ksilvas Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 06:15 PM
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29. BREAKING! Large percentage of Californians pull head from out of ass!
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 06:53 AM
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30. Schwarzenegger Loses Some Muscle
Chicago Tribune 6/30

Unpopular moves and the perception that he's just another partisan politician help sour the public's opinion of California's formerly formidable "Governator."

LOS ANGELES - He has aged and has bags under his eyes these days. His wife says she doesn't want him to keep the job. And neither do a vast majority of Californians.

Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger -- the man who rode to the state's highest office on a flood tide of popularity -- is in deep political trouble. A non-partisan poll released Wednesday showed that only 39% of registered voters asked would give the governor another term.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0506300243jun30,1,6508713.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:40 PM
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33. recall him NOW then, why wait?
If we see a weakness push and attack!
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shantipriya Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:44 PM
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34. Piece of Meat as Gov.
Whor are those 39% MORONS?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 01:51 PM
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35. On the positive side
we might be able to use anti-arnold anger to get more dems into the legislature.
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