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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:38 AM
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Dems believe remap is DOA
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2148419

Dems believe remap is DOA
Plan will not pass legal challenges, lawmakers claim
By MELISSA DROSJACK
Copyright 2003 Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON --Texas Democratic lawmakers said Thursday they plan to run in their congressional districts in 2004, with no plans to move, relocate or change tactics, because the GOP redistricting map is "dead on arrival" once it reaches the courts.

House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land, was in Austin this week to break a deadlock in discussions on finishing the map in the Texas Legislature.

At the same time, the Texas Democratic delegation to Congress was going about its normal business, staunchly opposing redistricting while predicting they will prevail in future legal challenges to the GOP-drawn map.

Several Texas Democrats dismissed the possibility of having to run from the newly configured districts, saying it's not conceivable the new lines will survive legal scrutiny.

more....

Lets hope not :bounce:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:41 AM
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1. Well I hope so
Then again, many people, including at DU said the CA recall petitions would never certify.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 01:07 AM
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3. Normally I'd agree with the article, but I must concur with Bluestateguy..
Nothing is past Delay. Take nothing for granted with these guys.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 02:05 AM
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6. More to the point...
...the final arbiter in this case will be the SCOTUS that everyone said "couldn't possibly interfere in the Florida recount based on their previously-stated judicial positions."

:scared:
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:43 AM
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12. I would have to agree with bluestateguy.

I believe that the repugs have had this planned in adavnce.

I think that the Judges will either turn a blind eye to this or vote wholeheartedly for its approval.


The fix is in.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 08:38 AM
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13. The Texas dems should start thinking contingency plans up NOW.
Rather than wait for the suprise. And no turncoats this time, sheesh.
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:46 AM
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2. Yeah, I don't think the courts will like the "white ghetto district"
The one that snakes 300 miles from Austin's suburbs to non-hispanic parts of the Rio Grande Valley.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 09:13 AM
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14. one precinct in El Paso is defined by a narrow path that runs between the
freeway lanes all the way to Austin.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 01:14 AM
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4. The Dems are right.
it's DOA. Like DeLay is DOA. He'll be booted out and back to sniffing bug spray in 2004. Someone REALLY challenge DeLay, even if it has to be a Repukkk, but at least get the schmuck out.

Hawkeye-X
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 01:21 AM
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5. My understanding is that Delay has a lock on his congressional seat.
I'd love to see him gone, but what gives you the impression that he'll lose his seat?
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 02:26 AM
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8. Right now, it's wishful thinking....
The fellow running against DeLay in 2002 was sincere, decent, apparently hard-working, and he got pretty well stomped. At this moment, only someone crazier than DeLay could take his seat away from him, and who would want that?

He's fought tooth and nail against high-speed rail to the south of Houston, because he knows that would change the demographics of his district and could conceivably affect his electability. He's not stupid, but he is crazy.

In DeLay's case, I believe the quote from a former lieutenant governor of Texas applies (speaking of the Texas legislature): "If you think these people are crazy, you should see some of their constituents."

I agree--for the foreseeable future, I don't see DeLay leaving Congress unless he goes feet first. Better to work for an overall change in the House--he'd not be able to do nearly as much damage as House Minority Leader.

Cheers.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:34 AM
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11. They just love thar votin machines in Texaz
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 02:22 AM
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7. stop worrying. enjoy the demise of bush* in the midst of his internal war
and forget these silly distractions. they're designed to keep us focused on things other than the big picture...
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 02:39 AM
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9. reckless thinking
Dems thought Bush was going to be trashed. Dems were sure 2002 was a win waiting to happen. Dems really, really thought Arnold was going to walk away sad. Might want to dump the defective 8-ball, realize the deck is stacked, and start taking these things seriously.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 07:30 AM
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10. please make is so
Why on earth do I have to have Lamar Smith for a representative?
I hope this does get overturned. but god knows how it will play out.
Bring out the yellow dogs.

I am trying to come up with a strategy of how to deal with this .
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 09:15 AM
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15. What's worse is the moving of our primary date.
Guess what Texas Democrats? It's now likely that we will have NO VOICE in selecting the Democratic nominee for president since the Republicans moved our primary date to March 9. I'll repeat that because it sounds vaguely important.

It's now likely that we will have NO VOICE in selecting the Democratic nominee for president since the Republicans moved our primary date to March 9.

Anybody in a blue state want to adopt me? :argh:
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