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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:03 AM Original message |
Time Magazine to Hand Over Reporter Notes |
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Dissent Is Patriotic (793 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. This is majorly scary!! n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. There's a material difference here |
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July (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:10 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Your last point is very important, IMO. |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:12 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. thanks, July - that just occurred to me this morning. |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 10:01 AM Response to Reply #33 |
54. exactly--the intent of the law was never to protect the powerful |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:14 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Thank you |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:17 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I fully agree with your last point - that's what gets me |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:36 AM Response to Reply #35 |
48. I am a lawyer also... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 10:23 AM Response to Reply #48 |
58. I agree. It's not as though attorney-client privilege is inherently ... |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 10:31 AM Response to Reply #35 |
59. As an attorney familiar with this case, you probably are aware that |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 10:45 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Typically any unauthorized disclosure of classified |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 11:20 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. It should also be noted that a 'whistle-blower' is someone who ... |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. Time magazine an appendage of the fascist state we are ensconced in |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Hold on there pardner. This isn't a whistle blower case is it? |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 11:58 AM Response to Reply #59 |
69. I am personally hard-pressed to consider Miller and Cooper as.... |
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mctrotter5 (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:18 AM Response to Reply #23 |
39. Excellent point! |
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BamaBecky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:27 AM Response to Reply #23 |
43. Excellent point!,,,n/t |
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Enraged_Ape (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 12:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
72. This is like a reporter watching someone commit murder... |
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HootieMcBoob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:28 AM Response to Reply #19 |
44. There's a huge difference in this situation |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:40 AM Response to Reply #19 |
49. Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm no freeper. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
50. So it is okay to cover up a crime? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:50 AM Response to Reply #19 |
51. No such 'privilege' can ethically exist ... |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:09 AM Response to Original message |
2. Appalling that they tried to hide behind the 1st amendment... |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. They were not protecting whistleblowers, but treasonous WH bastards! |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
24. My point all along, flpol |
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tmooses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
3. So does this get these reporters off the hook or are they |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. not sure |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Times's Cooper, probably yes. Judy Miller, New York Times, probably not. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
46. It appears.... |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
4. So, that means we find out who the leaker is, right? |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:15 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. No, it does not mean we find out who leaked Plame's name. This |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:21 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. It does, however, bring us one step closer to finding out. |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 10:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
57. Possibly. It depends on what the agenda of the special |
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Tesla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. that's what I am wondering... |
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clydefrand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I hope so! And I hope it causes Bush's disapproval rating to go |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. It is possible that there is more than one leaker. |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:45 AM Response to Reply #4 |
20. As Daily Kos said... |
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MadisonProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 11:25 AM Response to Reply #20 |
66. Isn't this considered TREASON? |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
37. It might eventually come out; |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
47. We will find out who is CHARGED with doing this... |
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jojo54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
12. I just hope that there are copies of the notes all over the place. |
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Brotherjohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
14. My take: Why didn't the reporters name their sources? Think of the story! |
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Brotherjohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. My take II: High-minded principles aside, they are defending someone... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:58 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. I agree with your take(s). The hypocrisy is astonishing. |
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Kota (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:22 AM Response to Reply #27 |
41. I wish more people were talking about that rape case. It is just |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
45. excellent points n/t |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:20 AM Response to Reply #14 |
40. Let's just suppose |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
15. The bright side is this keeps the Plame case visible |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Two names-that's all we need, two names |
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katinmn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:52 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Yes, there should have been an investigation long ago! |
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oneighty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
18. The silence concerning Bolton |
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splat@14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
22. How does Novak fit into this, or is this a different "leak"? |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Same leak. Novak has testified before the Grand Jury. He is not in jail. |
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splat@14 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:23 AM Response to Reply #25 |
42. Yep, he's not in jail for a reason. I wondered if I slept thru something! |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 10:03 AM Response to Reply #25 |
55. He pled the fifth |
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proReality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Maybe Novak blabbed ... |
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realFedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
26. Too bad....Cooper could have lost some of that weight in jail... |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
70. Wow, that's a really unnecessary cheap shot. |
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CantGetFooledAgain (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
29. And don't forget |
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proReality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:03 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Cheney spent a lot of time at CIA ... |
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CantGetFooledAgain (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
53. But he is too fine an American and a human being |
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ET Awful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
31. If the higher-ups at Time had any integrity, they'd publish the name |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:09 AM Response to Original message |
32. For some reason, I think it's Stephen Hadley |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
36. When do we all get to know the contents of the notes? |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 09:51 AM Response to Reply #36 |
52. The notes will probably be handed over to a grand jury... |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
56. Do we know WHEN they are handing them over? I don't know if |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 12:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
73. They'll hand over the names by next Wednesday --when do we find out? |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
61. How about Wen Ho Lee? |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
62. this is not a heroic reporter reporting a story and protecting sources |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
63. My concern is that Fitzgerald will file lesser charges |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
65. Ahem! Time Mag staffers! NOW would be an appropriate time for a leak |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
67. NYT link: Decision..."without precedent in living memory" |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Time's Editor-in-Chief Pearlstine is either woefully ignorant, or.... |
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Darkhawk32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
74. Imagine if the order came from Bush and Cheney themselves. /gasp n/t |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
76. Kick. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-30-05 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
77. Could Miller & Cooper Have Learned from a Lower WH Aid Than Novak Did? |
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