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RaulGroom Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 09:46 AM
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Cheney Defends Decision for War in Iraq (AP)
WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney said the United States still faces enemies that could inflict hundreds of thousands of American deaths in a single day, and he defended the Iraq invasion as a critical strike against such terror.

"We could not accept the grave danger of Saddam Hussein and his allies turning weapons of mass destruction against us or our friends and allies," Cheney told the conservative Heritage Foundation on Friday.

Cheney struck back at criticism of the Iraq war that has built over the months since Bush declared major combat over on May 1. His speech picked up where President Bush left off a day earlier, when the president told listeners in Portsmouth, N.H., "The challenges we face today cannot be met with timid actions or bitter words."

The vice president said, "The ultimate nightmare could bring devastation to our country on as scale we have never experienced."

"Instead of losing thousands of lives, we might lose tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands in a single day of war," Cheney said.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7775-2003Oct10.html
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A weak and blabbering performance if there ever was one. I love this game.

BTW show Raul some love and read his article today.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 09:52 AM
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1. what still amazes me on a daily basis...
is that there really are LOTS of people in this country that believe this horseshit!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:02 AM
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2. What else can he say? It's gotta be better than the truth!
"Yeah, we invaded Iraq so we could bankrupt the nation, loot the treasury, shoot off a lot of bang-bangs, and put more money into my already overstuffed pockets. Of course, such corruption and evil are just too much to contemplate, so I'll spin a yarn about weapons and danger. The media will eat it up, because the alternative is just too horrible -- that evil, greedy, venal men like me are ruining the country and killing its soldiery, as well as murdering thousands of foreigners just because we don't have enough money yet."

Print that, and you're a traitor.
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Flying_Pig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:03 AM
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3. Has Cheney, even once during his entire tenure as V.P., ever spoken
Edited on Fri Oct-10-03 10:04 AM by Flying_Pig
to a group of "just plain folks"? I can't remember seeing such an event, if it did happen. He always speaks to "atta boy" groups in the protected environs of the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute. Speaking to the choir takes no gumption.

It is easy to see who the groups are that support fascism in this country. Just look at a list of who Cheney speaks to. Once Bush/Cheney are removed from power, steps should be taken to empanel a Nuremberg type grand jury, to indict and bring to trial these fascists. They are traitors, and should be imprisoned for the support they've given this illegal and corrupt regime.

:grr:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:57 AM
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8. What would one expect from a complete coward?
Cheney is despicable and anyone supporting this cabal is anti-American.
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piece sine Donating Member (931 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 02:04 PM
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15. so...round up all the usual suspects
...from any DC political think-tank that we don't agree with and imprison them. This strikes as the very thing I thought folks at DU would fight against. What if Bushco took that action against staff at Brookings and CSPI and Common Cause. Correctly ,we'd yell bloody murder! But whether you care to swallow it or not, the reverse is true.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:07 AM
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4. The irony of his words...
"The ultimate nightmare could bring devastation to our country on a scale we have never experienced." This is exactly what's happening, but it's being done by him and the whole Bush cabal. I realize he's talking about war, but they are waging war of a different kind on the rest of us.

They are polluting the air and water, picking the pockets of the poor and the middle class and handing it over to the rich, and destroying the Constitution. America is becoming a Third World country rapidly. People are losing jobs, medical insurance, and hope because of him and the Bush Administration.

We know that Iraq did not have the means to even defend itself, much less bring devastation to our country.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:13 AM
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5. Sleezaleeza used similar language in her little speech yesterday.
Same old same old. The only question is how will it be portrayed in the (not FAUX) media.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:38 AM
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6. "President Bush declined the course of inaction,
and the results are there to see..."
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Paschall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:54 AM
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7. The ultimate patronizer
""We could not accept the grave danger of Saddam Hussein and his allies turning weapons of mass destruction against us or our friends and allies."

Uh, Dick, none of our friends and allies--except perhaps Israel, and the UK after you wound up Blair's spring--felt threatened by the "grave danger" of Saddam. If they had, they would have signed on for the invasion, dontcha think?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 10:57 AM
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9. of course, Halliburton is doing so well
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 11:31 AM
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10. drone....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, it's not working anymore.....
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 11:58 AM
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11. and . . .
let Madame Defarge continue her quiet knitting . . .
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:20 PM
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12. Nice use of passive voice
"The leads were not successfully followed. The dots were not adequately connected. The threat was not recognized for what it was."

Not: "We didn't successfully follow the leads. We did not adequately connect the dots. We did not recognize the threat for what it was."

From AFP:
Cheney sharply assails Iraq war critics
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20031010/pl_afp/us_iraq_cheney
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peterh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:20 PM
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13. After a dismal David Kay report, this misadministration…
Has gone into full spin mode…and it’s not just being directed on the domestic front…

<http://www.nbr.co.nz/home/column_article.asp?id=7256&cid=15&cname=>

Controversy has erupted around a speech American Ambassador Charles J. Swindells delivered -- or attempted to deliver in the overwhelming presence of demonstrators determined to silence him -- at Victoria University on 8 October. The full text of that speech, which no one heard, is provided here as a public service. Ironically, Ambassador Swindells anticipated a civil reception at the university and so planned to open his remarks with a salutory "thank you" that proved wildly out of place.


I’m going to go out on a limb here and assume that a number of Ambassadors are giving or trying to give propaganda speeches world-wide to try to change opinion that this is now looking more and more like the criminal act that many of us already knew.

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Magleetis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-03 12:21 PM
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14. Its a full court press
with the same old lies. This is part of the campaign to justify the war. There is an article on the CBS news site titled " Bremer: Life Is 'Normal' In Iraq" then there is a picture of him walking with armed gaurds around him. If life is so normal why do you need guys with automatic weapons to escort you Paul? I am so sick of the lies something has got to give.
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