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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 07:31 PM
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Few nations want to help in Iraq - U.S. search for Iraq troops frustrated
Edited on Tue Jul-15-03 07:39 PM by dArKeR
Attacks, disputed evidence leave other nations reluctant

IN PARIS, President Jacques Chirac, a leading opponent of the war, told the Czech president that sending French soldiers to Iraq “cannot be imagined in the current context.”
       He cited comments last week by his foreign minister, Dominique de Villepin, who said a French role was unthinkable without approval by the U.N. Security Council.
       India also rejected a U.S. request for peacekeepers for Iraq, saying Monday it would consider such a move only under a U.N. mandate. And German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder said last week that his country would consider sending peacekeepers only if asked by an interim Iraqi government or the United Nations.
       “We are very consciously not with troops in Iraq,” German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer said Tuesday. “The German position about this did not change.”
       
STRAIN ON SOLDIERS, FAMILIES...

http://msnbc.com/news/939320.asp?0cv=CB10


My French friends are flabbergasted to think the U.S. wants French and German help in Iraq after all the dirty and immoral attacks on France and French products by the GOP, Bushies, and American Whore Media. The common French and German citizen's opinion of the U.S. could not penned even on the DU. I don't think you'll ever see their troops their unless our troops surrender and leave then the Europeans will go in and solve the hell the GOP/Bush Crime Family created. The entire GOP leadership should be prosecuted. Delay, Lott, Hastert, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Asscroft, Powell. I think Karen Hughes found out their dirty secrets and resigned because of what they were doing.

http://www.geocities.com/darkerxdarker/index.html
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indictrichardperle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 07:36 PM
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1. No relief in sight for our troops
No country is going to add troops....we cant reduce the number of our own with a growing guerrilla resistance. I dont see anything that is going to change this, we are really stretched thin. Guard, and reserves are exhausted.

One thing it may do, as nauseating as the quagmire is, the junta doesnt have the manpower to invade any more countries. I also wonder how exhausted and burned out these troops have to be ? Morale is really really bad. This war is growing more unpopular every day, in this country and in Iraq.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 09:19 PM
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13. Especially my French friends think Americans are stupid.
And I think I have to agree with them. I'm surely stupid!

Way before Bush started killing Iraqis my French told me about 5 'occupations' of the British, Dutch, French... in 'recent' history.
1. In bla bla we needed 350,000 troops to control only 6 million citizens. And we still lost 35,000 soldiers.
2. In bla bla the British needed 200,000 to control half a million citizens. And they lost 25,000 soldiers.
3. Americas going to control 23,000,000 Iraqis with 150,000 soldiers. No way. (He told me this way before the slaughter started.)
It went on and on and I felt really stupid I didn't know any of these events in history.

Also, the French people don't hate us. It's more they feel sorry for us for being ignorant. I get along with them just fine and we have good time together.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 03:44 AM
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23. So you're saying Bush is now going to drop a nuclear bomb on Iraq?
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 07:46 PM
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2. Uh, was this supposed to be a surprise?
:eyes:

Hello? No one but us and Britain wanted to go in the first place, what makes these "morans" think countries are going to want to go now????
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kalazh Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 07:57 PM
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3. WHERE THE HELL
COALITION OF THE WILLING-ALBANIA, ROMANIA, BOLGARIA, ESTONIA, REPUBLIC OF GEORGIA, POLAND...............?
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 08:04 PM
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4. 7,000 troops
I think I read somewhere that the countries you named plus a few others like El Salvador had committed to a total of 7,000 troops. When I mentioned this to my husband, he said he thought the U.S. would be paying for their tents, meals, etc.
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kalazh Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 08:10 PM
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8. I read somewhere that
Ukraine sent a sqaud of non-combat team of medics or something like that. This move drained Ukranian annual defense budget and simply they would love to bring their folks back but they don't have money.
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kalazh Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 08:15 PM
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10. Only seven members
of the present coalition provided combat troops, with another seven offering other forms of support, such as decontamination experts, medical ships, non-combat troops and troops for post-war deployment.

Moreover, six members of the so-called 'coalition of the willing' are unarmed nations: Palau, Costa Rica, Iceland, the Marshall Islands, Micronesia and the Solomon Islands. Absent from the coalition are countries such as Canada, Germany and India.
here is the link:
http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/iraqwar/story/0,4395,183757,00.html
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 10:09 PM
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16. Solomon Islands are in a state of ANARCHY
The UN is currently considering sending troops in there.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:53 PM
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32. You Husband is Right
The US will be paying the tab for our coalition. If Iraq was under a UN Mandate, then the money would come from a common fund that most countries donate to. Granted the US gives the largest share, but this
helps to make sure that US troops are not in harms way.

Without the UN Mandate, the US taxpayer will be footing the whole bill.
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indictrichardperle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 08:06 PM
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6. Fiji is still pissed
they got put on the list by accident.

Rummy claimed in senate testimony "requests for troops are out there to 80 or 90 countries"

:eyes: Where is Aznar that little shit head ?
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 08:10 PM
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7. "3 Latvians in bio-chem suits doesn't make a coalition"
..a quote from an unidentified Democratic lawmaker (Elenor Clift article).
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kalazh Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 08:11 PM
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9. Hei Albania
sent 17 soldiers come on.
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kalazh Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 08:52 PM
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12. How about
Afganistan
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 03:48 AM
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24. LOL
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General Discontent Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 02:34 AM
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22. Don't Forget Micronesia! LOL!
n/t




D Wolfman
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kalazh Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:04 PM
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27. I am sorry
I forgot them with Pilau
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:10 PM
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29. Bulgaria pulled their support
One guy called in sick, and the other refused to work alone.
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kalazh Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:12 PM
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30. did we pay them
already?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 08:05 PM
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5. Maybe we should rename "Freedom Fries"
"Pretty Please Fries", "Kiss-Ass Fries", or simply, "Please-In-The-Name-Of-God-In-High-Heaven-Get-Us-The-Fuck-Out-Of-
This-Hellhole-Of-A-Mess-We've-Gotten-Outselves-Into" Fries!!!!!!!!!!
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 10:21 PM
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17. "Pretty Please Fries!!" ;-) I want a BUMPER STICKER!!!
Good one , wtmusic!!!

And how 'bout "Crow-eatin' Fries"!!


:kick:
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 11:26 PM
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19. Try saying that
At the drive-thru at McDonald's! :-)
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 03:49 AM
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25. LOOOL LOOOL LOL
Edited on Wed Jul-16-03 03:51 AM by dArKeR
Oh you guys, I can't stop laughing!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 08:20 PM
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11. Read my lips: Do not insult allies.
They tend to remember.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 09:39 PM
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14. Maybe Bush and Co. will wise up about insults!
The rest of the world doesn't have much of an incentive to help us...why would they, unless money was involved and there is little of that these days!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 09:43 PM
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15. What about the coalition of the willing? (extreme sarcasm)
Where are those valiant troops from countries such as Latvia, Lithuania, et al, that Bush made such a big deal about.

Where are the troops from Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi?

Where are Sharon's bulldozers? (sorry, I could not resist that one!)
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-03 10:25 PM
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18. Moral of the story: Don't count your oil until it's pumped !!
He thought he'd have all these powerful country "friends" knocking on his door wanting to get in on the oil goodies. What a childish fantasy these PNACers were having!! Everybody else grew up around them, and they're still in 5th grade....how very "cute" of them!

:kick:
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Mal Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:14 AM
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20. What's with these countries? I want to help!
Does anyone know the postal address of the Resistance, where I can send money, ammunition, and ideas?
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:43 AM
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21. Karen Hughes
Oddly, I have never given her that much credit!
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 05:31 AM
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26. can you spell quagmire?
what hath bush (and his democratic party collaborators) wrought?

but i have the solution:

by a worked-out deal, bush and cheney (and ashcroft, rumsfeld, powell, rice, et al) resign, and prepare to face charges of treason. hastert accedes to the presidency and selects gore as his vp and then hastert resigns. after profuse and abject apologies on behalf of the nation gore then establishes a true coalition for PEACEKEEPING. we assist iraq in establishing any democratic SECULAR (yes, i said secular) government they wish, pay massive reparations and then get the fuck out. of course, gore and the justice dept and congress then proceed to investigate the selection and everything thereafter to its final conclusion (that should take a while). then we hang the lot of traitors, have a national year of mourning and education for the damage we have wrought over the last century or so. and we all live happily ever after working to build peace and prosperity for the planet.

you can tell me it won't happen, but you can't tell me it wouldn't work. besides, you got a better idea, because we are royally fucked right this moment.
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kclown Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:10 PM
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28. Famous "French" riposte
"I can see it will work in practice, but it would never
work in theory."
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:39 PM
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31. Americans supported this war...
75%/25%! The world opposed it 90%/10%!

Like it or not America made this mess and we are responsible for the well being of the Iraqi people.
Besides, why should the world's soldiers die for some little venture that Bushco wanted. Why should the French, German, Indian, Japanese, Canadian, or any other nation that opposed this war go in now to protect the assets of ENRON and Halliburton. Personally I do not believe any of these men and women, including our American soldiers die for Wall Street???

If the vast majorities of Americans don't like what they are seeing then I say to bad. You chose this war, you started it, and now you must finish it!
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kalazh Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-03 01:53 PM
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33. May be
they were mislead
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