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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:51 AM
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Taliban says it killed 'captured' U.S. commando
Taliban says it killed 'captured' U.S. commando

Jul 9, 2005 — KABUL (Reuters) - Taliban guerrillas said on Saturday they had killed a missing American commando they claimed to have captured in eastern Afghanistan last month. The U.S. military said it had no information to support the claim.

"We killed him at 11 o'clock today; we killed him using a knife and chopped off his head," Taliban spokesman Abdul Latif Hakimi said from an undisclosed location. He said that the body had been dumped on a mountain in the eastern province of Kunar.

The U.S. military has said it has no information to suggest the Navy SEAL commando, part of a four-man team that went missing during a clash with militants in mountainous Kunar on June 28, has been captured.
(snip)

"He is wearing red clothes," he said. "We got the information we wanted from him during the interrogation."
(snip/...)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=922996
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:53 AM
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1. man that's awful
poor guy.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 03:55 AM
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2. Did Rummy attempt any communication with those who held the SEAL?
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 03:56 AM by lebkuchen
Since Rummy has been meeeting with insurgents in Iraq to cut deals, why not those in Afghanistan, especially to save an American life?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:05 AM
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3. Prisoner exchange is a perfectly legitimate act in war
They keep telling us this is war, so if that's the case an attempt to achieve some kind of prisoner exchange would be fine by me.
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TheGoodCitizen Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:06 AM
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4. Rummy only went to communicate with the ones...
that are working with the CIA. The one's that daddy Bush trained.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:13 AM
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5. Afghan rebels and Taliban do not exchange prisoners
They kill them horribly and slowly.

In last years book, "Charlie Wilson's War", George Crile wrote about how they treated captured Soviet troops. Not a pretty story.

I feel bad for the SEAL.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:23 AM
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6. Yeah. I hope he got a chance to kill himself before those barbarians
got their hands on him.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:30 AM
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7. The surprise would have been if they hadn't killed him.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:53 AM
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9. These good/evil people do not deal.
I was pretty shocked one got away and a local man helped him, to be frank with you.Did not we win this war a few years ago? Guess I heard the wrong people. Looks like they are still at war to me.It is hard to say you win or just make a dent in this type of war. I think this is the same war that has been going on for years and years. Brits, Russia, Am. these people just want outsiders OUT of their country.
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 05:17 AM
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11. Bumper sticker: War cannot be won, it can only be survived. nt
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 05:24 AM
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12. You're right. They are evil and they want us out.
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 05:25 AM by cornermouse
The problem with that was the fact that bin Laden was there. Going there was understandable.

What isn't understandable is the fact that Bush dropped the priority of capturing bin Laden and took off to Iraq with troops that were badly needed in Afghanistan.



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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 06:07 AM
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14. Absolutely, Afganistan could have been a success
If Bush had committed to rebuilding Afganistan's government and infrastructure in a comprehensive way, Afganistan might very well have become a success story by this time and US troops would probably be out of there by now.

Instead Bush rushed off into Iraq and pretty much left Karzai's fledgling government to its own devices and the rest is history.

It is madness.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 12:09 PM
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16. "Afghanistan could have been a success...."
Leonid Breshnev thought so too....
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:32 AM
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8. The Taliban are liars
but this story could be true. If it is, then it must be condemned as a barbaric act of savagery.

3,2,1....

I don't even want to hear it. I have made perhaps hundreds of posts here condemning and attacking the US abuses of prisoners at Gitmo and Abu Grahib. I have opposed the Iraq war for almost 3 years, and made thousands of posts here reiterating that. I don't think it is asking too much to acknowledge in one post that the Taliban is the vile scum of the earth. Just because the US has at times broken the rules of warfare should never absolve the other side from culpability when they break the rules.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 05:34 AM
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13. The Taliban have a long history of brutality.
I remember being shocked and horrified after reading articles of how they treated their soviet prisoners. The fact that the US is now breaking the rules of warfare should never absolve the other side from doing the same. The real problem with abandoning our morals and ethics is the fact that any fingerpointing that we do at the Taliban at this point in time, becomes hypocritical.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 04:58 AM
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10. god help us all. this is so awful. bush has a lot to answer for.
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Eugene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 11:47 AM
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15. BBC: US has no proof on Taleban claim
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4666997.stm

US has no proof on Taleban claim

The US military in Afghanistan says they have no information about
a claim by the Taleban that they have executed an American special
forces soldier.

A Taleban spokesman said that the group, which claimed to have
held the serviceman, had killed him and dumped his body in eastern
Kunar province.

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 01:33 PM
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17. Would he be alive if bush hadn't diverted our resources to Iraq?
Edited on Sat Jul-09-05 01:33 PM by Straight Shooter
The Taliban is the epitome of brutality, the Taliban is theocracy on crack. But, to me, the saddest part of this tragedy is that we could have some semblance of progress in Afghanistan, and instead we are seeing a monster in the process of reviving, and growing stronger.

bush literally turns everything he touches into chaos. He is cursed, and by association, we are all cursed.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 02:24 PM
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18. Good freakin Question
These SEALs didn't even have proper air support? Had to wait on a Chinook to rescue them - which got shot down? Were there no A-10 Warthogs, Apache or Cobra gunships they could have called on when they got hit?

Bush & Co. threw the whole kitchen (and the sink) into Iraq and half-assed the Afghanistan effort.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-05 08:59 PM
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19. US working on Taliban amnesty
http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1514425,00.html

Kabul - Afghanistan and the United States are working on an amnesty scheme for Taliban members and followers of wanted terrorist Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, a Kabul-based diplomat said on Monday.

The plan, which envisions allowing Afghanistan's former rulers and Hekmatyar supporters to return to the political scene, is being drawn up jointly by US army officers and Afghan President Hamid Karzai's cabinet, the diplomat said.

However, such a plan is likely to evoke fierce opposition from the current Afghan administration, which is dominated by commanders of anti-Taliban forces who ousted the hardliners with US help in late 2001, and from ethnic minorities who were persecuted by the ethnic-Pashtun-dominated Taliban.

Under the scheme, members of Afghanistan's deposed hardline Taliban and followers of Hekmatyar's radical Hezb-i Islamic organisation would be divided into three categories, ranging from those who would never be offered an amnesty to those who would receive it unconditionally.

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