Evidence Mounts Of Coordinated Attack In London (allied with al-Zarqawi ?)

[sabra]

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http://www.theiowachannel.com/news/4702686/detail.html

Evidence Mounts Of Coordinated Attack In London
Death Toll Of 49 Expected To Rise

LONDON -- In what looked like an eerie replay of Sept. 11, fliers seeking information about people missing in the London terror attacks proliferated on walls and trees around the blast sites Saturday.

Investigators said they are taking seriously a claim of responsibility posted on the Internet by a group calling itself The Secret Organization of al-Qaida in Europe, which they fear may be allied with Iraq's terror chief, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

The name was previously little-known to terror experts, although a Web posting under that title had claimed responsibility for the last major terror attack in Europe: the bombs on commuter trains in Madrid in March 2004, which killed 191 people.

In an address on British Broadcasting Corp. radio Saturday, Prime Minister Tony Blair said Britain must defend against terrorism - but must also strive to understand the underlying causes of the violence, which he identified as deprivation, lack of democracy and ongoing conflict in the Middle East.

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[Double T]

1. It is too early in the investigation to draw any conclusions or....

speculate about anything. It is information such as this that got the U.S. into the Iraq War!!!! And we sure don't need any more BS!!!!

[are_we_united_yet]

2. Well said!

[iamtechus]

3. Abu Musab al-Zarqawi ...

... is merely Emanual Goldstein (1984) in disguise.

[acmavm]

4. Zaq is back! And getting the credit for the London bombings. Screw

bin Laden, he's yesterday's news. The guy to watch is the leg regenerating guy who has taken rebirth to new heights, literally.

[Benbow]

5. Or not, as the case may be - don't preempt the criminal enquiry

Vain hope, I know, but I will keep trying. We are not ruling anything out but the criminal enquiry is not yet finished. And a certain amount of disinformation may be issued by the police, if this will help flush out suspects.

[wookie294]

6. I laugh everytime they speak of ''Zarqawi''

How US fuelled myth of Zarqawi the mastermind

By Adrian Blomfield outside Fallujah
(Filed: 04/10/2004)

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the terrorist leader believed to be responsible for the abduction of Kenneth Bigley, is 'more myth than man', according to American military intelligence agents in Iraq.

Several sources said the importance of Zarqawi, blamed for many of the most spectacular acts of violence in Iraq, has been exaggerated by flawed intelligence and the Bush administration's desire to find "a villain" for the post-invasion mayhem.

US military intelligence agents in Iraq have revealed a series of botched and often tawdry dealings with unreliable sources who, in the words of one source, "told us what we wanted to hear".

"We were basically paying up to $10,000 a time to opportunists, criminals and chancers who passed off fiction and supposition about Zarqawi as cast-iron fact, making him out as the linchpin of just about every attack in Iraq," the agent said.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/10/04/wirq04.xml

[daleo]

7. An article I saw in today's Globe and Mail (from The Guardian)

Said the "website" is actually a bulletin board, much like DU or FR. It is based on a Houston server, and the internet provider is a company with connections to the Bush's (via Sharon Bush) and also has connections to the Secretary of the Navy. It might mean nothing, but it is just as relevant as most of the speculation we have seen so far.

I don't see it on the Globe's website (I am using the paper edition, Saturday July 9, page A8). Here is the relevant quotation:

"It was posted on an Arabic website, al-qal3ah.com which is registered by Qalaah Qalaah in Abu Dhabi and hosted by a server in Houston.
...
He also said the website - more accurately a bulletin board - could be used by anyone.

The server in Houston has intriguing connections. The company Everyone's Internet was founded by brothers Robert and Roy Marsh in 1998 and by 2002 had an income of more than $30 million (U.S.).

Renowned for his charitable work, Roy Marsh counts among his friends U.S. President George Bush's former sister in law, Sharon Bush, and the President's Navy Secretary"

[norml]

8. Pakistan interrogating suspect for links with London carnage

Pak interrogating suspect for links with London carnage

Peshawar: Pakistani authorities are interrogating a British national, Zeeshan Siddique, suspected of having links with al Qaeda and militants in the UK, for his possible role in Thursday’s serial bomb blasts in London. Security agencies had picked up the man from near Peshawar in May.

Though Sidddique’s links with some of the militants belonging with Al Muhajiroun, a radical Muslim group in the UK, have been established, his association with the group as such has not been proved. However, the interrogators have recovered several phone numbers from his possession allegedly linking him to al Qaeda operatives, and feel he may be the missing link in the plot.

The interrogators have also recovered from him a CD containing programmes regarding circuit works, aeronautical mapping and digital simulation. He has reportedly disclosed to the interrogators, that he was a suspect in a failed plot to bomb pubs, restaurants and rail stations in London.

According to The Dawn , they are now focusing on a note in which Siddique states that one of his comrades had informed him that ‘wagon’ had now been called off. According to the paper, the reference to ‘wagon’ has prompted security officials to take a fresh look at the whole case with particular reference to the bombings in London’s underground tubes.


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http://www.newkerala.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=5761

[alcibiades_mystery]

9. The headline is not borne out by the article

That article does not present any mounting evidence that this was an attack anywhere near as coordinated as previous al-Qaeda attacks. None. They haven't even confirmed the type of explosive, and the article contains only two contradictory claims on that. Most of the article talks about what Blair said, what people are doing, and the scenes themselves, without comment on their evidentiary implications. The ONLY information that the article contains that could reasonably construed as evidence about the perpetrators is the bit on the explosives, and that is contradictory and likely speculative. Complete bunk.

[norml]

10. London bombers may have been educated British Asians indoctrinated in Paki

Posted on 08 July, 2005

London bombers may have been educated British Asians indoctrinated in Pakistan: Report

London: The terrorists who carried out yesterday’s serial bomb blasts in London, may have been from a gang of young and well-educated British Asians, who went to Islamic schools in Pakistan, after graduating from Britain.

But, not enough evidence had been collected to arrest them, though in order to establish their links with al Qaeda, intelligence agencies have in the past, monitored phone calls between them and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, The Sun reported.

Said to be in their 20s, these Muslim extremists are graduates who completed their college education in the UK and then went to Islamic schools in Pakistan near the Afghan border, the paper quoted a US security source as saying. The Pak-Afghan border is full of Pashtun tribals, and has over the past few years earned the notoriety of being the den of hard core terrorists believing in Osama’s ideology.

Security men feel that the terrorists were 18-20 in number. Professor Michael Clarke of King’s College London was quoted as saying that planting a string of bombs “would require a cell of at least 18 to 20 people”.


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http://www.newkerala.com/news.php?action=fullnews&id=5579

[Zorra]

11. Lord Bushpoodle says: "deprivation, lack of democracy and ongoing

conflict in Middle East" is causing the violence.

Astounding. Who knew?

Maybe you and your master should attack Iran now, huh, Tony? Add more to the ongoing conflict, deprivation, and lack of democracy in the ME?

It worked so well in Iraq.

[Disturbed]

12. More Bullshit from Western Imperialists.

Mr. Zarqawi was literally introduced to the world in February 2003 when Secretary of State Colin L. Powell told the United Nations that Mr. Zarqawi was a "collaborator and associate" of Mr. bin Laden's. Mr. Powell also described him as a Qaeda chemical weapons expert who had relocated to Baghdad with Saddam Hussein's blessing and organized a cell of 20 operatives there.

Since then, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney have repeatedly portrayed Mr. Zarqawi as the clearest link between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's deposed regime. Mr. Zarqawi's presence in Iraq before the war, and his emergence since then, they say, justifies portraying Iraq as a centerpiece of the war against terrorism. During a recent campaign speech in Ohio, President Bush said: "Zarqawi is the best evidence of connection to Al Qaeda affiliates and Al Qaeda. He's the person who is still killing."

However, fresh doubts about Mr. Zarqawi's ties to Iraq were raised by American intelligence officials last week in a report prepared for Mr. Cheney. The Central Intelligence Agency determined that there is no conclusive evidence Saddam Hussein's regime provided safe haven to Mr. Zarqawi in the months leading up to the American invasion of Iraq. This assessment follows a similar finding in June by the Sept. 11 Commission, which concluded that there was no "collaborative relationship" between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's regime.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/101004I.shtml

[leesa]

13. I'm sure the Daily Kos will get right on this link...after all, the

government says it's true, it must be!