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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:49 AM
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Army study: U.S. facing hard choices
Army study: U.S. facing hard choices
Lack of GIs may force cut in mission goals

By Michael Kilian
Washington Bureau
Published July 12, 2005

WASHINGTON -- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has consistently rejected any contention that the Army is stretched too thin in fighting simultaneous wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But a new Army study has concluded the service is so strained that the U.S. will soon "need to decide what military capabilities the Army should have and what risks may be prudent to assume."

Numerous critics and outside defense policy groups have warned that the fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan has taxed the Army so badly that it will have difficulty meeting any new crises elsewhere, but the new assessment comes from an in-house undertaking prepared by the RAND Corp.'s Arroyo Center, the Army's federally funded research institute.
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Even as the Army was studying the report, it announced Monday that it is augmenting its troop strength in Afghanistan this month with a battalion of the 82nd Airborne Division that just returned from Iraq in March. And the Army's latest monthly recruitment figures released Monday show the service and its reserve components likely will not meet recruitment goals for this fiscal year.

The report--"Stretched Thin: Army Forces for Sustained Operations"--was to have been released Monday, but a RAND spokeswoman said it had been postponed to allow "further review" by the Army. Nonetheless, Davis indicated the report raises significant questions about the Army's future and the burdens the Pentagon and taxpayers will have to bear to field adequate forces.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0507120251jul12,1,6312103.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

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Side note: Speaking of reports, wasn't Rumsfeld under a deadline to provide a report on July 11? Does anyone know if that report was released?


Bush signs $82 billion war funds bill
Wednesday, May 11, 2005 Posted: 7:19 PM EDT (2319 GMT)

>snip<
Sen. Edward Kennedy, a Massachusetts Democrat, called that "a key element of a successful strategy to stabilize Iraq and withdraw American forces."

"Another important part of this bill will be the periodic report it requires on the progress our forces are making in Iraq," Kennedy said in a floor statement this week, according to prepared remarks on his Web site.

"I'm encouraged that the administration is finally being required by this bill to tell Congress how many U.S. troops will be necessary in Iraq through the end of 2006," he said.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/05/10/war.funds/

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Rumsfeld has until July 11 to produce Iraq benchmarks

By DAVID S. BRODER
Washington Post columnist
Last update: July 03, 2005

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Last week, Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania, the ranking Democrat on the Defense Appropriations subcommittee, pointed to language in the report accompanying last May's Iraq funding bill that would satisfy most of those demands. It orders the first detailed status report on July 11 and follow-ups every 90 days.

The information required is specific and detailed. It includes measures of the security environment, including the number of engagements per day, the count of trained Iraqi forces and more. It orders up indicators of economic activity. It directs Rumsfeld to provide -- either in public or in classified annexes -- an estimate of U.S. military forces needed in Iraq through the end of calendar 2006 and the criteria the administration will use to determine when it is safe to begin withdrawing forces.
http://www.news-journalonline.com//NewsJournalOnline/Opinion/Editorials/03OpOPN32070305.htm
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:50 AM
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1. the Republicans have broken the back of the US Military
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:47 AM
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16. So the dems voting with the repukes are not guilty then?!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:54 AM
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2. I expect to see Coasties and Sailors in BDUs in Baghdad
Put down the mop sailor
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:56 AM
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3. There was a report of one Army group with a high TB rate
coming back from Iraq..

This will also cause a major problem for Rummy..

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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:43 AM
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11. If TB gets them home....
....then expext to see a LOT of mouth kissing soon...and no, it's not a "Gay" thing...
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:00 AM
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4. As long as the neocons are in power ....
there will be no scaling back of military operations.

I expect a draft to be implemented, sooner rather than later.

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alkaline9 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:19 AM
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6. if there's a draft...
...this country will be torn apart! In a sick way, if it takes that to get the repukes out of office and out of favor ... so be it?
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:28 AM
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8. Like the man said, tough choices.
The neocons see this as their best and last opportunity to implement their longstanding plan for world domination.

They will accept the political risks of a draft.

After all, they control the media and propaganda works quite well.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:08 AM
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5. --"Stretched Thin: Army Forces for Sustained Operations"--
THIS WOULDN'T BE A DISCUSSION IF CCB HADN'T GOTTEN US INTO THIS FOR PERSONAL GAIN!!!!!

Sorry for the caps-I'm just highly irritated.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:20 AM
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7. 'Facing hard choices' - let's put this in context
These choices we are 'facing' weren't brought to us from some outside force. Can't we use language that indicates that the only reason we are facing this is because the administration LIED and put our army in a FUCKED UP SITUATION for NO GOOD REASON and that if we happen to need the military for a worthwhile cause such as DEFENDING OUR COUNTRY we would be fucked? Can we put the responsibility where it belongs, right in the headline?

BUSHCO FUCKED UP

That's a headline I'd like to see.

Sorry, I'm a little grumpy this morning, and this passive language is irritating to me. :P
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PunkPop Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:34 AM
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10. No need to apologize
You are 100% right on the money.

The media's "disassembling" is maddening. Another headline writer providing cover for the Bushco f*ck-ups.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:45 AM
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13.  I love the passive voice....
....mistakes WERE made and thousands BECAME dead....
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:48 AM
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17. They lied, people fell for it,
and we're boned because of it.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:31 AM
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9. I had to close the window
felt a draft....
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:44 AM
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12. Very drafty in here...
be prepared for another bombing or something to give moron* the justification for a draft.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:45 AM
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14. Hard choices = "defeat" or draft
Just trying to make it a little more simple for our 'puke "friends".
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alkaline9 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:55 AM
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15. i think either way it means...
...even less popularity for the repukes. Although I'm sure their media arsenal will spin whatever happens to their advantage.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:24 AM
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18. "Postponed for further review..."
Postponed for changes and redactions, lest the Pentagon be made to look bad.
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