LAT: "Uproar Has Roots in Rove's Vast Reach"

[Tiggeroshii]

WASHINGTON -- President Bush once said he would fire any White House staffer who had leaked the identity of undercover CIA operative Valerie Plame. But if that source turns out to be Karl Rove, the president's longtime political guru, a firing would be a devastating blow to the White House.

Rove, after all, is more than just a top presidential aide: He was the architect of Bush's rise to power. He orchestrates policy initiatives and is aggressively charting a course for long-lasting Republican dominance.

More...
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-rove13jul13,0,6605675.story?coll=la-home-headlines

[punpirate]

1. "Rove's Vast Reach"...

... I do hope that, finally, his reach has exceeded his grasp.

I so much want to see some real justice done for a change. Like Rove being told by some nine-foot-tall inmate refugee from a Halloween flick telling him, "yore mah li'l puppy now."

It's about time someone did to him what he's been doing to the country for most of his life.

[0007]

26. I think Karl would relish being sexual abused by another man....

After all, "Karl greatly appreciated the supervision of a cocksure hairy 353-lb. Leather Dominator who had won the Miss Virginia Daddy Bear title at the MAL merriment."

[phillinweird247]

29. Rove's vast reach-around

Ha Ha

[Kindigger]

2. KKKarl and *

"They finish each other's sentences," says Dombraye, who now works for the Ohio Republican Party.


KKKarl: "and the car said..."
DDubya: "moo".

KKKarl: "and the dog said..."
DDubya: "honk".

[Cha]

16. I wonder if rove taught bush to say..

that he needs to repeat things at least 3 times to "catapult the propoganda" ..for posterity?

Or did that just slip out of the monkey's mouth?

[zapp]

3. Rovian Philosophy: Smear Smear Smear

Then kick them when they're down.

FROGMARCH HIS ASS

[Moose_head]

4. Poppy recognized hot kkkarl's talents early on...

"...They came together during young adulthood, when an ambitious former Texas congressman, George H.W. Bush, held the job of chairman of the Republican National Committee. It fell to the elder Bush to investigate allegations that Rove had used dirty tricks in a campaign for president of the College Republicans. The RNC chairman eventually cleared Rove, and was so impressed by the young operative that he hired him as an assistant..."

those must have been some really great slimy low-down tactics that Hot KKKarl used, if they impressed poppy that much.

(and why do i keep visualing Emperor Palpatin and Anakin Skywalker...? naked in a texas hottub...?)

[goclark]

21. But the point is that POPPY liked ROVE so much

that he got him to plan the swift climb for his little Boopy Bush.

He was not let go, he was REASSIGNED to *.

That is exactly what will happen this time.

ROVE will be doing dirty tricks from a jail cell.

[Moose_head]

22. that's what i said-

it seems pretty obvious, knowing the histories of the two, that hot kkkarl must have come up with/used some GREAT dirty tricks in his own campaign, to have impressed poppy so much that he cleared him and hired him, and later used him on dim son's campaign(s).

[calimary]

33. Welcome to DU, Moose_head!

Glad you're here. We need you!!! Good thinking in these posts. Keep it up!

[anarchy1999]

5. Is there not a book titled "BUSH'S BRAIN" aka Karl Rove?

Bye Karl. Keep in mind though all, Karl is nothing but the sacrificial lamb. He falls on his sword for BUSH, INC and the CARLYLE GROUP. Hi Daddy.

[WhiteTara]

7. sacrificial? I don't think so

he's demise will be his due, but I sure hope they grab up Cheney while they are at it. Ok, the whole dirty lot of them!

[bluestateguy]

6. Good article

Bush Jr. has never been without Rove at his side as long as he has been in politics. I'm not so sure that Bush could function without Rove, and that's why I don't think it will be easy to force him out of office.

[anarchy1999]

8. Bye Karl.. See ya and don't let the door hit you on your way out.

rivet, rivet, rivet.

It's called the frog march. Although it is just damned way too much to hope for. Bush, Inc. will get around it.

Where is Kenny Boy? Get my drift?

[Pallas180]

9. There's an old saying, "you meet the same people on the way down you

were nasty to on the way up".

the congress was very angry at how they were treated by this WH, meaning Rove.

his could be interesting in more way than one.

[robertpaulsen]

35. Hey Pallas, thought you might appreciate this article.

Especially this paragraph:

Imagine, for a few paragraphs, that you were the U.S. Director of Central Intelligence. Rove's seditious behavior requires you to wonder about the possible extent of his inside job against U.S. national security. Did Rove act alone? Probably not. His Plame operation, no doubt conceived in league with Dick Cheney and other high-ranking scoundrels, may merely represent the tip of a huge iceberg of duplicity. How else did "Bush's brain" subvert our intelligence community? Are Rove's intimates, who include Bush himself, running interference for him out of personal loyalty, or are they trying to cover up their own treasonous acts? Someone at Langley provided highly classified personnel information to Rove, a dirty tricks specialist and pollster. Who?

more...

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0713-31.htm

"the tip of a huge iceberg". Hmm, I've heard that phrase before somewhere. I wonder what Ted Rall's e-mail address is, I have something that might interest him. :)

[Rhiannon12866]

10. Bush* is scary enough, as he is!

Rove, after all, is more than just a top presidential aide: He was the architect of Bush's rise to power. He orchestrates policy initiatives and is aggressively charting a course for long-lasting Republican dominance.

Can you imagine what he'd be like with no "brain" at all?! Yikes!:scared:

[dbt]

11. bu$hler said his regime would "avoid even the appearance of

impropriety." He said he would "restore honor and dignity to the White House." Did he not also say that he would fire anybody who leaked the name of a covert CIA operative?

Now, bu$hler is a man of simple convictions. He knows the difference between right and wrong, good and evil--or so the Media has been squawking for the last five years.

Surely, he will have no choice but to fire Mr. Rove. To do anything else would fairly reek of IMPROPRIETY.

:evilgrin:

[Cha]

17. How ironic...

The WHOLE CHIMPHOUSE will have to be FUMIGATED when bush leaves..not just the oval office.

[RobinA]

12. Does Anyone Really Think

that, even if Rove resigns/is fired, he won't still be pivotal in this administration. Frankly, if they had any sense, he'd resign now and take up his background post immediately while he is relatively undamaged to the vast majority of voters. That won't happen, of course, because admitting any error is antithetical to these people. But resigning now due to the appearance (nudge, nudge) of impropriety would take the heat off the White House and Rove could go about his business behind the scenes. Hell, these days a martyr spin might even work for this guy. Driven out by a pack of resentful libruls, etc., etc.

[leftchick]

13. so in other words he is bush's brain...

~snip~

As the Cooper e-mail indicates, Rove has duties beyond his official role of working on foreign and domestic policy development. He has the broadest portfolio of any presidential aide in history: He micromanages policy, leads outreach efforts to key GOP constituencies and supervises election strategy down to the precinct level, not only for the president but for congressional candidates as well.

Rove also maintains contacts at leading news organizations and often provides background guidance to top reporters and editors, as he did for Cooper. These contacts are part of Rove's less-discussed role of crafting Bush's image, enforcing the strict Bush code of discipline and jumping hard on perceived opponents of the president.

"If you are at a senior level in Washington these days, you inevitably must deal with the media," said Terry Holt, a former spokesman for the Bush-Cheney reelection campaign, speaking of Rove. "He has good relationships , and he's good at it. He has great credibility with the people that he deals with."

[leftchick]

14. this is sick! they sound like lovers...

:puke:

Deborah Dombraye, a campaign aide who traveled with the two during Bush's 1994 gubernatorial campaign, says Rove and Bush "are like twin brothers." They have a joshing bonhomie and communicate with each other so intimately that much of it is unintelligible to outsiders.

"They finish each other's sentences," says Dombraye, who now works for the Ohio Republican Party.

[cybildisobedience]

24. I thought the same thing

especially about that "awe at first sight" part -- can you imagine if Rove and Bush were Democrats and reporters would be writing about them this way? Everyone would be talking about how inappropriate their relationship was. Remember they even inferred that from the photos of Kerry and Edwards embracing each other?
This is disgusting....

[Cha]

15. Oh, and you forgot..

"bush's Brain"!

[Moose_head]

18. IF there is ever another presidential news conference under *-

I sure hope that some "reporter" has the balls to ask * "where the buck stops".
But unless Helen Thomas shows up, it's doubtful that anyone in the room will have a big enough pair.

[rocktivity]

19. Candidate for this month's "You Call This NEWS?" award

...But if that source turns out to be Karl Rove...a firing would be a devastating blow to the White House.

Well, duh. Not only would it make a complete mockery of the Bush empire, it would underscore his inability to hire and lead the right people, as well as beg the question of who linked the name to Rove. That person is even guiltier than Rove is, and that person is undoubtedly near top, as in Rice, Cheney, or Bush himself.

...The disclosure this week that Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper talked in 2003 with Rove on "double super secret background" about Plame, as Cooper wrote in an e-mail to his bureau chief...

OMG, it was COOPER who came up with "double super secret background"??? I've heard all the jokes comparing it to the "double secret probation" of the Delta House movie, of course. But I figured some smartass in the press had made it up!

rocknation
:wow:

[LizW]

20. The article lays out clearly why Rove won't go

Forget the corrupt, soulless nature of his politics. The article is about his "vast reach". Rove is a cancer, but more than that, he's a brain tumor. He has tentacles reaching everywhere and he's not operable.

Obviously Bush and Cheney don't give a crap about corruption. What is Congress going to do, impeach them? Right, those same Comgressmen Rove has been systematically putting into office for years, are now going to turn on him? Not going to happen.

The people who once (say, during Watergate) might have been able to go to a President and say "You've got to clean this up," aren't there anymore. They've been replaced by people who are indebted to none other than Karl Rove.

Sorry to be a downer this morning. Yesterday I was optimistic, but after hearing ABC and many others presenting Rove's defense, I'm not so hopeful.

[Tiggeroshii]

23. Despit his "far reaches"

Despit Rove's "far reaches" as reported by this article, the way I see is that people can do whatever they want to do, say what they want, but this Fitzgerald fellow is powerful and detertimined. There is no doubt the leak is Karl Rove and if Karl Rove committed a crime, there's a 75% chance in my book, he'll get prosecuted. Remember? "This a criminal investigation and I cannot comment on a criminal investigation?" There are angry White House correspondents willing to wrtie angry articles about the White House. AND there's a prosecutor after THEM.

Don't listen to the pundits, although they have an outcome in public opinion, they don't have a say in Rove's fate.

[LizW]

28. You make me feel better

I do have high hopes for Fitzgerald. It all rests on him. The fact that he was willing to pursue Miller and Cooper is encouraging. He had to know that could possibly turn the press against him.

It frankly all rests on Fitzgerald. If he gets indictments, Bush will have no choice but to do something.

[Pallas180]

30. I think Judith Miller is sitting in jail cause she wont give up Cheney.

The second one.

And Fitzgerald knows it. And he knows if he can get to Cheney, then it starts impeachment potential.

[WhiteTara]

37. I think she is afraid to give up Heartless

she knows he will shove her in prison for a long time with the rest of them because of her role in the runup to bombing Iraq.

[The_Casual_Observer]

25. For some reason the whole god damned american government

seems to be afraid of that bastard, as if he were some kind of sorcerer or something. Just fucking arrest the little piece of shit and be done with him for christ sake.

[shanti]

27. what makes anyone think

that rove wouldn't be orchestrating behind the scenes if he WAS fired? so what good would being fired do?

[Pallas180]

31. Agree - so he'd leave the WH and go to work for the RNC with

his mail order biz and make much more money and still have the power and the residents's back.


The resident said "whoever did it, he'll be taken care of"

parsing...parsing....yeah he'll be given a cushy position, unless
Fitzgerald can prove it was criminal and treason.

His mentor Segretti went to jail for 6 months...why not ?

[Tiggeroshii]

32. He wouldn't be the Deputy Chief of Staff anymore, that's for sure...

Or would he? Even thought he title isn't there, it's still possible he'll be "working behind the scenes" as Deputy Chief of Staff. But If Andy Card has any sort of backbone, he'd secure the top position as soon as Rove's out and probably not want Rove interfering with his policy making. Despite Rove's persistence and evilness, I'm not convinced everybody working for Bush is an evil slime.I honestly believe if Andy Card were to replace Rove, there'd be a new kind of integrity back in the White House.

[Oreegone]

34. They sound like lovers

Georgies little turdblossom, how beeuuuteeful. They are meant for each other.

[WhiteTara]

38. I wonder what KKKarl's nickname for * is

I am sure that it is amazing.

[WhiteTara]

39. I wonder what Turd Blossom calls *

I can't even imagine
:eyes:

[BeHereNow]

36. Sunday LA Times Editorials should be interesting...DU Activist Corps

Skinner directed the DU Activists Corps to mail letters
to one or more editorial departments about the Rove
debacle as our first collective action-
Given this article today, I can't wait to see one or
more of our letters in the LA Times on Sunday!
Yipppppeeeeeeeeee!
BHN