FIND THE EVIL BOMBMASTER

[stickdog]

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FIND THE EVIL BOMB MASTER

Jul 14 2005

FIRST PICS OF KILLERS FIRST PICS OF KILLERS PAGES

By Cara Page

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The first to die, Shehzad Tanweer, 22, of Leeds, blew himself up on a train near Aldgate tube station. Mohammed Sadique Khan, 30, a married father-of-one from Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, exploded his device on a train near Edgware Road. Another bomber died on a train near King's Cross while the fourth, 18-year-old Hasib Hussain, from Leeds, killed himself in a blast on a bus at Tavistock Square. All four bombers carried identification with them. A security source said: 'They wanted people to know who they were. They wanted to be martyrs.'

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SHEHZAD TANWEER

HE was a keen cricketer and the son of a well-respected fish and chip shop owner. The 22-year-old - the eldest of four children - was described as a good Muslim and was said to be 'proud to be British'. Born on December 15, 1982, in Bradford, he had always lived in the Beeston area of Leeds. Tanweer lived with his parents in a semi-detached house. Having studied sports science at Leeds Metropolitan University, he planned to get involved in sport. He particularly loved cricket and his friend Mohammed Answar, 19, said they played only last week. Mohammed said: 'It's not in his nature to do something like this, he's is the type of guy who would condemn things like that.'

HASIB MIR HUSSAIN

WHEN the 18-year-old went missing, his mum reported his disappearance to the police. That gave investigators the vital clue that led them to Leeds and the properties which were raided on Tuesday. Hussain was reported missing at 10.20pm on Thursday after he failed to return home from London. The teenager lived with his family in the Leeds suburb of Holbeck, where a three-storey, red-bricked terrace house in Colenso Mount was searched. The family had lived there for more than 20 years.

MOHAMMED KHAN

THE eldest of the suspects named, the 30-year-old, lived in Dewsbury with his wife Hasina and their baby daughter. Neighbours said Khan originally lived in Leeds, where he is thought to have once worked in a bookshop. They said his family came from Pakistan, while his wife's family had origins in India. Khan was believed to work with disabled children while his wife is thought to be involved in education. Some locals say she is expecting their second child. Neighbour Imran Zaman said of Khan: 'He was a nice bloke. Who'd have thought he would have done something like this? I never knew he had a religious background. I go to the local mosque and I've never seen him there.'

[gandalf]

1. Religious background...

We are to believe the 9/11 guys had been fanatics with a religious background. At the same time, Atta frequented topless bars, drank quite a lot and enjoyed life in Florida. (What's the use of going to a heaven with virgins if you can have the fun already on earth...)

These official stories tend to have some minor inconsistencies...

[slackmaster]

11. Is the story really inconsistent?

Or is it possible that Atta was a garden-variety hypocrite (like many religious people are)?

[gandalf]

25. "garden-variety hypocrite" lacks the motivation for suicide

We are told they were motivated to fulfill a suicide mission due to their religious beliefs. If these were not existent, this motivation would vanish as well.

[radwriter0555]

2. Who is to say that these men didn't have bombs planted on them, the way

that is going on in Iraq?

[1932]

7. A real possibility is that only one of them knew it was a suicide mission.

One theory about 9/11 is that the way they reduced the chance that one person would get cold feet and jeopardize the mission was that only the pilots knew it was a suicide mission, while the rest believed it was a hijacking.

These four guys might have thought they were going to plant the bombs on the tube and get off at the next stop and survive.

Maybe only the one on the bus was a suicide. He might have set 3 minute triggers on the other bombs after telling the carriers they had 15 minutes. He waited to make sure the other went off, then he killed himself.

[radwriter0555]

24. How about that NONE of them save 1 knew it was a suicide mission at all?

Suicide missions make no sense. Even the most fanatical of religious don't just DIE for their gods. There is always DOUBT even among the most deeply indoctrinated cults.

These bombs were planted on these dudes. Just like they're planted on the victims in iraq.

Just like the guys on 911 didn't know they were going to die, they were just hired thugs.

[Voltaire99]

3. Sounds fishy.

The Khan MO doesn't square up with a suicide, does it?

Given the lying of the Blair regime, it's hard to accept anything it says as true without independent verification.

[sled]

4. As a mackerel...

in the noon day sun...a week old mackerel...

[allemand]

10. Khan travelled regularly to Pakistan

Yet investigators said Khan, who reportedly travelled regularly to Pakistan, may be linked to a group of alleged extremists who were arrested in London last year in a foiled terrorist plot. (...)

Hussain also spent time in Pakistan, where his father sent him in an attempt at discipline. Hussain left school two years ago with mediocre results and for a time "went a bit wild", drinking and swearing, neighbours told The Guardian.

He returned from Pakistan a devout Muslim, said a cousin. "I thought he had been brainwashed, I do not know who by," the cousin said.

Tanweer also travelled recently to Pakistan, the birthplace of his parents. His uncle, 65-year-old Bashir Ahmed, said Tanweer went to Lahore for two months earlier this year to study religion.

More:
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2005/07/14/1120934365618.html?from=top5&oneclick=true

[XemaSab]

5. Very, very, very odd

n/t

[Gregorian]

6. So where's the anthrax killer?

They seem so good at finding these people in 48 hours. Yet the same sophistication can't seem to find this one guy who tossed anthrax all over America.

[leftofcool]

8. And I just betcha.........

that they found some papers that looked like passports and diagrams of the tube stations lying carelessly around the hotel/motel/meeting room that all 4 bombers had stayed in the night before, not to mention copies of the Koran with crib notes in the margins that look suspiciously like "let's bomb the Brits" written in Arabic. Did I miss anything?

Left of Cool

[allemand]

9. Suicide bombers all travelled to Pakistan

LONDON - All four suicide bombers were of Pakistani origin, and all had travelled to Pakistan in the recent past.

Shahzad Tanweer had also visited Afghanistan, according to one of his friends.

At least two of the bombers are said to have family links with the Pakistani-controlled part of Kashmir.

British authorities are in touch with the Pakistani Government to ascertain whether any of the men had trained in military camps run by Kashmiri separatists fighting in the Indian-controlled part of the province.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10335886

[daleo]

12. I am still surprised that suicide bombers take ID with them.

Although I would expect that of an unknowing victim of the blasts.

If they were keen on making sure people knew it was them, why didn't they leave notes or video tapes? I hope we see more compelling evidence than this. But I am glad the British seem to be treating this as a crime, rather than a national panic.

[allemand]

13. Because they would be reported missing by their families?

And be identified by CCTV?

[maddezmom]

14. why is the US and not the UK releasing the name of the 4th bomber

Germaine Lindsey has been identified by US officials :shrug: This seems a bit odd to me. Kinda like the man from Oregon that was arrested re: Madrid bombing.

[muriel_volestrangler]

15. It's released in the UK too

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/beds/bucks/herts/4683285.stm (though you have the name the wrong way round :-) )

On edit: huh? The link I just gave does say "Germaine Lindsey", and "Mr. Lindsey"; but this BBC link says "Lindsey Germaine".

Google News UK only gives me hits for "Lindsey Germaine". :wtf:

[maddezmom]

18. I saw it as Germail Lindsey

not so sure they know who it is yet :shrug:

[allemand]

19. As al-Jazeera noted, Sky News still refers to him as "Lindsey Germail"

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/2463CA8C-C411-4BA4-94AF-211DD13AC930.htm

[allemand]

16. BBC and British newspapers all identify Germaine Lindsey as the fourth

bomber:

Security sources have told the BBC that the Aylesbury search is connected with trying to identify the bombers.

In particular, detectives are trying to establish if the fourth bomber had either lived or stayed there.

He has not yet been officially named, but police sources have indicated he was almost certainly Jamaican-born Lindsey Germaine, who lived in Buckinghamshire.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4683555.stm

[maddezmom]

17. thanks

:hi:

[OKthatsIT]

20. All the CIA had to do was to have lists of young men

of middle eastern backgrounds ready for blasting...

Just a thought, here...but

If you had a number of people ready to board trains or buses...you see them board the trains or buses ...rush hour is a very predictable time to catch a number of people boarding the transit system...then you pull the switches on those trains or buses...then you prepare the evidence..or plant it during the investigation....

its all quite possible, you know?

[Don1]

21. There are MANY things suspicious about this bombing.

Recognize the name Muhammed Khan at all? Look at Conservative Idiots and you will be amazed at the coincidence! Seriously, you have to do this.

Don't forget, too, that Blair rejected an inquiry and said no amount of surveillance could have changed the result.

And also there was a British intelligence training exercise at precisely the same time on the trains.

My suspicion is that the govt was merely doing a training exercise when a double agent (Muhammed) had infiltrated the exercise. Now, Blair does not want to be accountable for the screw up.

I might decide to write up another thread about all these strange things with some articles to back these statements up.

[Tai-chi]

22. Bombing 'Exercises' Took Place at Same Time

London Underground Bombing 'Exercises' Took Place at Same Time as Real Attack
Culpability cover scenario echoes 9/11 wargames

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet | July 9 2005

A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th.

On a BBC Radio 5 interview that aired on the evening of the 7th, the host interviewed Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a 'crisis management' advice company, better known to you and I as a PR firm.

Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch.

Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.

The transcript is as follows.

POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.

HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.

Click here for a clip of this dialogue. Click here for a longer clip
( http://www.prisonplanet.com/audio/090705exercise_clip_2.mp3 )
where the comments can be heard in their full context.( http://www.prisonplanet.com/audio/090705exercise_clip.mp3 ).

The fact that the exercise mirrored the exact locations and times of the bombings is light years beyond a coincidence. Power said the drill focused around 'simultaneous bombings'. At first the bombings were thought to have been spread over an hour, but the BBC reports just today that the bombings were in fact simultaneous.
( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4666591.stm ).

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2005/090705bombingexercises.htm

[Don1]

23. Yeah

I noted that, too.

There are two other observations that I made as well.

Read my last post above.

[Stella_Artois]

26. Debunked

Yesterday I sent an email to Peter Power asking him for furhter information. Here is his reply:

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Thank you for your message. Given the volume of emails about events on 7 July and a commonly expressed misguided belief that our exercise revealed prescient behaviour, or was somehow a conspiracy (noting that several websites interpreted our work that day in an inaccurate / naive / ignorant / hostile manner) it has been decided to issue a single email response as follows: It is confirmed that a short number of 'walk through' scenarios planed well in advance had commenced that morning for a private company in London (as part of a wider project that remains confidential) and that two scenarios related directly to terrorist bombs at the same time as the ones that actually detonated with such tragic results. One scenario in particular, was very similar to real time events.



However, anyone with knowledge about such ongoing threats to our capital city will be aware that (a) the emergency services have already practiced several of their own exercises based on bombs in the underground system (also reported by the main news channels) and (b) a few months ago the BBC broadcast a similar documentary on the same theme, although with much worse consequences. It is hardly surprising therefore, that we chose a feasible scenario - but the timing and script was nonetheless, a little disconcerting.



In short, our exercise (which involved just a few people as crisis managers actually responding to a simulated series of activities involving, on paper, 1000 staff) quickly became the real thing and the players that morning responded very well indeed to the sudden reality of events.



Beyond this no further comment will be made and based on the extraordinary number of messages from ill informed people, no replies will henceforth be given to anyone unable to demonstrate a bona fide reason for asking (e.g. accredited journalist / academic).



Peter Power

Visor Consultants Limited

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1622881&mesg_id=1628517

[Matariki]

27. why "debunked"?

your post seemed more to confirm than debunk.

[Igel]

28. Some salient points:

"My suspicion is that the govt was merely doing a training exercise when a double agent (Muhammed) had infiltrated the exercise." Not government.

"In short, our exercise (which involved just a few people as crisis managers actually responding to a simulated series of activities involving, on paper, 1000 staff) quickly became the real thing and the players that morning responded very well indeed to the sudden reality of events." So "1000-person strong" bit is just false. The thousand people were on paper; it was run for the crisis managers in the room, with all else being simulated.

The scenario was plausible, and one of a set of scenarios that were offered; I'd expect large organizations to run likely scenarios. And this one wasn't unique to those consultants, it seems.

The exercise involved just a relatively few people, so it's unlikely Khan would have infiltrated it--double agent for the British government or not (although why the British government would infiltrate a private emergency planning session is a mystery). And, had Khan infiltrated it, he would have been sitting in a conference room somewhere when the bombs went off.