London Bombing Suspects described: 'ORDINARY BRITISH LADS'

[adolfo]

"TERROR IN LONDON: Three of the four suspected suicide bombers in last week's deadly attacks had no police records or pasts that would arouse suspicion or alert anti-terror squads"

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/07/14/MNGR7DNPP41.DTL&feed=rss.news

[HysteryDiagnosis]

1. So... in order to fight a "war on terror", one which creates invisible

adversaries who give no warning, leave no trail, have no apparrent motives, have no qualms about sacrificing themselves for something they have never supported except perhaps in their heads, and who may have been driven to their actions by the "war on terror" in its mutated form which makes preemptive war on nations who have never attacked Amurka even though Amurka had attacked and continued to attack them for Yeeeeeeeers. Anyone see the futility of the path that chimp junior has taken for all the wrong reasons??

[muriel_volestrangler]

2. It looks like the French Interior Minister was right

see http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1628730 - Khan was linked to a group who were arrested in Luton last year - after the US prematurely blew the cover of a 'turned' Pakistani.

[Monkey see Monkey Do]

3. Looking forward to hearing Clarke

explain that one!

[sleipnir]

4. The tinfoil gets another wrap.

Were the boys there on their own volition? Or is there something more sinister at hand? We may never know.

[dArKeR]

5. Sorry, I don't see any evidence which proves they did anything except

to be riding the train/bus like the other people. I sped read so please let me know if you see any evidence. THanKs!

[Anarcho-Socialist]

6. There's an ongoing police investigation

I would keep an eye on quality British news sites:

Channel 4 News
The Independent
The Guardian

You must bear in mind that police are still examining lots of forensic evidence and interviewing witnesses. It's impossible to know everything and have every available evidence at hand only a week after the bombing. Although I feel the press has jumped the gun by naming the suspects at this early stage.

[dArKeR]

10. That's a really off-the-wall toon! I don't know if I should laugh or cry!!

I wish I thought of it! Thanks for making me feel something. I'm not sure if I'm going to jump out of skin or not.

[madeline_con]

7. I don't see any evidence

Maybe I'm not reading all the "right" articles, because I don't get it either.

Has someone proven that the backpack the one kid was wearing was the origin of one of the bombs?

A group laughing together on a security cam doesn't prove much, either.

[dArKeR]

11. If you took video from any camera in the world, ATM, McDonalds, 7-Eleven

Taiwan MRT... you'd find thousands of incidents of groups of people together. This is really strange. I wonder if some poor kids who where murdered also are going to become the Fall Guys? The lack evidence but conviction of these kids and Blairs refusal of an inquiry seems like something is being covered up.

And we know Blair wouldn't murder anyone! He has them assassinate themselves.

[muriel_volestrangler]

9. There's explosives found at one of the houses in Leeds

and explosives found in the car left at Luton station (where the have CCTV footage of one of the men from Leeds).

There's also that the group of 4 were seen together, with packpacks, 20 minutes before 3 separate explosions on trains that went in different directions from there.

[madeline_con]

8. 'ORDINARY BRITISH LADS'"

"Three of the alleged bombers in the London attacks fit that category: They were British-born men of Pakistani descent, who lived in a cluster around Beeston Hill, a blue-collar Leeds neighborhood of dilapidated brick row houses populated by Africans, whites, Arabs and many second- and third-generation Pakistani families. No information was available on the fourth suicide bomber."

The article went on to mention a sense of disenfranchisement among young men of that ilk, as if they had trouble "fitting in". Enclaves of cultural and religious ocmmonality can sometimes breed the type of extremists these guys are alleged to have been.

This little bit, too:

"One friend, who asked not to be identified for fear of reprisal, said the suspected bombers were part of a small group that sometimes met for religious discussions at a nearby Muslim bookstore, the Iqra Leeds Learning Center."

I guess he'll be a good place to start questioning. I'm sure the Iqra Center will be thouroughly checked out.

[allemand]

12. Just some ordinary lads that went to ordinary Jihadist schools in Pakistan

A friend of Khan told the BBC that he had travelled regularly to Pakistan and Afghanistan to attend military training camps. "He used it as a recruitment centre," he said.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1529021,00.html

After The Scotsman revealed that authorities in Pakistan suspect that at least one of the London bombers, Shehzad Tanweer, may have been recruited during studies at a school run by the terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), Mr Straw said the British and Pakistani governments were working together to tackle the problem.
http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=1385452005

UK bomber met Islamabad church bomber in 2003-source
Source: Reuters
By Zeeshan Haider

ISLAMABAD, July 15 (Reuters) - One of the London suicide bombers met in 2003 with a man later arrested for a church bombing in Pakistan, an intelligence official said on Friday.

Pakistani security agencies are investigating possible links between militant groups based in Pakistan and Shehzad Tanweer, a Briton of ethnic-Pakistani origin who was one of four bombers in the July 7 attack that killed at least 54 people.

One of the groups being checked is Jaish-e-Mohammad (Army of Mohammad), linked to al Qaeda and banned by Pakistan in 2002.

The other group is Lashkar-e-Taiba, which like Jaish has a record of fighting in Indian Kashmir, but unlike Jaish has a reputation for tight discipline and is not known to have any operational ties with al Qaeda.

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http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SP25492.htm