Senator Reid Launches Faith Web Site

[ECH1969]

Washington, DC - Democratic Leader Harry Reid made the following statement today announcing the launch of his new website - A Word to the Faithful:

”As Democratic Leader, I’ve made outreach to the faith community a top priority and have had the great privilege of meeting with leaders of many faiths. I’ve talked with Protestant ministers about the immorality of a budget that cuts programs for the neediest among us while rewarding those with the most. I’ve discussed immigration and poverty with Catholic Bishops, and I’ve met with Jewish leaders to discuss ways we can help hardworking families across this country.

”My discussions have only reinforced the belief that the Democratic Party and people of all faiths share many values and goals, and I intend to continue my outreach in the months ahead. As part of this effort, it is my honor to introduce you to this website – A Word to the Faithful. It’s dedicated to illustrating how people of faith and Senate Democrats can work together to lift our neighbors up and achieve our common goals.”

http://reid.senate.gov/record2.cfm?id=240884

[metisnation]

1. Democrats

are not pagans, people need to know this more.

[mike_c]

4. I'm an atheist...

...who finds pandering to the religious distasteful in the extreme. I'll change my mind when Reid puts similar effort-- publicly-- into outreach for atheists, toutng his record for getting religion out of public institutions, etc.

[CubsFan1982]

10. We've already got the atheist vote.

That's part of our problem - people think that's all Democrats are. Reid's doing the right thing here. Like it or not, faith is an important part of American life, we might as well get used to it and try to adapt to it.

[VegasWolf]

15. Actually, I have a few athiest friends that are Republicans. Corporations

before god and all that.

[Zhade]

21. Unwise to just assume that.

Enough religion in government, and you'll lose that vote when people like I stay home.

If we can't rely on the Dems to keep a strict separation of church and state, we can't rely on anyone to do so - not that they're exactly failing at this, but it's worth remembering that NO voting bloc is static for all time.

[CubsFan1982]

23. It's not like Reid is endorsing faith-based initiatives.

He's just saying, "Hey, we respect your beliefs because a lot of us hold them too." Why is it always a battle when the Democratic Party tries to reach out to a constituency whose votes we need to win? I thought that's what the Party was all about - reaching out to EVERYONE.

[Zhade]

34. You're the second person to not read my post.

I just said, don't take the atheist vote for granted. That's ALL I said.

[Patchuli]

27. Doesn't Reid have the right

to do that on his own time? How is he mixing his office with his web site re: faith? *ed for sp*

[Zhade]

33. I didn't say he was.

I said, essentially, don't take the atheist - or ANY - vote for granted.

[Patchuli]

37. I take nothing for granted in this world

but I think Harry Reid's idea is a good one. Building community needs to be done. Open minds are better than closed.

[Zhade]

45. I agree with your last two sentences.

Jury's out for me on the first - I'll hope for the best.

[Patchuli]

60. Thank you

Not to be a disgustingly Pollyannaish person, but at least Senator Reid is trying to stand up to these bullies. Some may not agree with using faith as a basis, but if we can pull the moderate Christian repubs away from the Right, that's a good thing!

[Carolab]

46. And we need to "infiltrate" the churches, too.

The Republicans are running amok from the pulpits.

[Patchuli]

61. I don't know that I'm brave enough!

Are you? I already ran away from a church that I had attended for 3 years because they started to talk politics in church. I also was frightened out of my wits by the assistant pastor who told me he was "all for the war in Iraq because it was time to get in there and CLEAN their clocks!" Nevermind that Iraq didn't attack us. He refused to even discuss that little detail! I was horrified by a so-called 'man of God' who was pro-war! I told the pastor I didn't feel that Democrats were welcomed in his church and I never went back. Their loss and I got to keep my sanity!

I attend church now where the message is love and tolerance and politics never enters the door! However, my pastor is quite upset by the hatred, bigotry and extremist Christians and is speaking out against it.

I don't know if I could deal with those freaks that think that trashing the earth will bring the Second Coming!

[Carolab]

65. Universal Unitarians are pretty cool.

Ever attended their service? My aunt was a member and I went to her memorial service in February. The congregation was very liberal, very progressive, very diverse, and the minister said it is "kind of a do-it-yourself religion".

[Patchuli]

67. No, but I have heard that

it's a very accepting and tolerant church. I am pretty happy with my little open-minded Christian church though. Our congregation is only about 50 or 60 good souls but it feels like a family. I do give my pastor interesting things to read and I know that he 'gets it.' Even though he has told me that he personally is a conservative, he does not feel it is his place to tell others how to live or push his beliefs down their throats. He views those bigoted pastors in North Carolina and other southern states, who wish death on gays, etc. as 'not good Christians' to put it very nicely.

[Wabbajack]

24. "We've already got the atheist vote."

Not all of it. I know several right-wing atheists. Liberal on most social issues but pro-tax cut and pro-war and even a few straight-ticket puke voters. Some outreach to them would help.

[JerseygirlCT]

53. It really need not be an either/or

Atheist, agnostic, person of one faith or the other, what unites us are the same goals. Whether they're arrived at through a faith or not, we need to be able to speak to the goals. But speaking to different sections of the Democratic base makes sense to me, too. I don't think we should be afraid to talk about religion. We also shouldn't be afraid to be clear that unlike the other guys, we're not looking to break down that wall between church and state.

[hallc]

13. I totally agree

As an atheist myself, i am so tired of "faith" based anything. It has no place in politics anyway.

[mike_c]

14. welcome to DU, hallc....

:toast:

[hallc]

16. Long time member...

but i lost my password, so i changed my name and re-registered - I started grad school in May and haven't had time to breathe, let alone post on DU. But I've found some extra time now that one of my classes is over, so I'm back with a vengence. But thanks for the nice welcome :)

[VegasWolf]

17. Hi halc, welcome aboard! I'm in complete agreement. nt

[The Straight Story]

71. Faith, politics, philosophies, all of the same thing really

beliefs. We group ourselves and label based on our beliefs, from atheists to pagans to democrats, et al.

And to me is why I see nothing wrong with this. He is aiming at a large swath of voters which is good, winning, idea. The people he is talking to or about share common ideals, and he is simply tapping into that grouping of ideas and expanding it by (to me) challenging another, similar group, who share core ideals but differ on details (much like we here at du have a varied interpretation of similar events).

I see it as a wise and sensible endeavor which could have positive outcomes for the party and those who align themselves with the party. He is reaching out to fellow citizens based on a common trait they share, ie hitting up a target audience.

Simple advertising :)

[QC]

31. So you prefer letting the Right monopolize the religious issue

in a country where app. 90% of the population professes religious belief?

[ikojo]

55. It doesn't matter how much a Democrat reaches

out to "people of faith". The religious reich and their talking heads in the media have done a darn good job over the past 25 years of painting Dems as godless (like that's a bad thing). As long as someone has a D after his/her name it would not matter if Jesus himself endorsed that person because a Dem will always be seen as an enemy of religion and of "people of faith".

[bitchkitty]

36. Me and you both.

I'm not an atheist, but it makes me sick to see the neocons playing the faithful like a fiddle. And they just suck it up.

Why are so many Americans so STUPID?

[hyphenate]

58. I, too, am an atheist

But I think Reid's plan is a good one. We must consider that the RRR has, for the past 5-6 years now, managed to dislodge any common thread of decency in those people who are religiously excessive, and are now working to beat down those whose beliefs are more moderate. Their lack of tolerance, their hatred and their brand of belief is an imposition not only on those of us who don't necessarily share beliefs, but on anyone who lives a moderate life and still has some religion in their lives.

By attempting to converge these moderately faithful, Reid could bring together many vast millions of people who find the RRR less righteous and more wrong. They exist, because we've seen them here, we talk with them in their daily lives, and they are among the more normal folk out there. And indeed, if we don't reach out to them, if we don't at least invite them into our party, we will lose them with certainty.

To me, if a member of the Democratic Party feels that at the very least we need to make some concessions to religious moderates, I say fine. It's not against the First Amendment to try for a plan of inclusion instead of exclusion. It's not like we're dictating morals or any other philosophy, we're simply inviting folks to join us, and making it clear that the RRR is phony, hypocritical and fascist in their agenda to wipe out people who aren't as hardline. If we can succeed in showing that the Moral Majority is neither, we can build our party's base and help to bring it back to the front. If we do NOT attempt to make this deal, we will find that gradually the people's right to worship as they please will erode far more rapidly than we can anticipate. They have managed, in the past thirty years, to get to a spot of high power, deserved or not. Another thirty years of this shit and we might as well kill ourselves, because the RRR will BE the leadership in this country, creationism WILL be the dominating "theory" in schools across the country, and homeschooling for religious bias will be the major method of education. We can't allow that to happen, and so we must mingle in things we normally wouldn't in order to make amends to the citizens of the U.S.

[me b zola]

70. I'm not an atheist, but I share your setiment

It has been a ploy of the neo-cons to make everyone *believe* that religion is the magic key to winning elections. It makes me want to pull my hair out to hear Democrats fall into this trap.

The merging of church & State is a real threat, and all of this pandering only adds fuel to the fire.

[Larkspur]

12. I'm a Pagan and secretary of my town's Democratic Town Committee

I also have a bumper sticker on my car that says


http://azuregreen.biz/prodinfo.php?stocknumber=EBIMP&parentid=1259

[yurbud]

47. we have to figure out a way to make that known without phony public piety

Why doesn't Reid just get his picture taken with Benny Hinn?

Hillbilly Hitler art:



Blog:

[Okiesoldier]

50. Christians are Pagans

They changed the Times and Laws of the Father. They took away the Father's name, Yahweh, give us god, a pagan Canaanitte diety. Changed the sabbath to Sunday. They gave us pagan holidays, Christmas and Easter, while taking away the Holy Days. Contrary to what you have been told, the Laws of the Father were not put away.
So christian beware of what ya pray for, you might not like the end results.

[Patchuli]

68. Interesting

but unrelated to the topic.

Don't you think it's a good idea to unite progressives in every way possible?

[JerseygirlCT]

52. I'm confused about what you mean here

Because I certainly know many Democrats who ARE pagans.

[gmoney]

2. Democratic Mullahs?

Keep your god off my laws!

[Patchuli]

8. No not mullahs!

Listen to the message before you judge the messenger! No matter what you personally believe in, there are always going to be people of different faiths. But in all faiths, if purely practiced, caring for the needy and the sick and seeing justice in society is what it's all about. No matter what a person's faith or belief is, we still all need to play nice.

This is a good thing. And BTW, I call my faith leader a 'pastor.'

[Patchuli]

3. Very cool!

I'm a Christian who has been disgusted by the lack of concern of the faith community, at least outwardly, to this rob the poor and give to the rich assbackwards government. I think this is also a really smart move for Democrats! We need to attract the moderate conservatives.

[54anickel]

19. Could also give clergy something to discuss besides what the fundies

put front and center.

The church I attend has a fairly new pastor who is rather liberal in her thinking (for this congregation anyway). She's trying to steer her congregation to thinking about the important stuff, poverty, aids, equality, human rights, etc. But most of the congregation is very conservative (yeah, I know what am I doing there - I'm trying to make a difference - my missionary calling).

She likens Roberts, Falwell, et al to the pharisees, and says she has a difficult time getting some people to focus on the stuff that really matters. Hard to get them to listen to their hearts and the holy spirit with all that RW fundie stuff blaring in their ears.

While it may offend some atheists out there, I think it's a good thing. A lot of good Christian people are confused, looking for answers, questioning what they thought Christianity was all about. I think many would be relieved to find alternative answers to the fundies falsehoods.

[VegasWolf]

20. Yes, unfortunately it is the christian sheepherders themselves that

are pushing for Republican control. I think they see that
they can influence the Republican party far more than the
Democratic party and thus they end up in a win-win situation.
I agree that it would be nice if the church goers put their
own financial interests up front and forward.

[Patchuli]

25. I don't want to see faith get too involved

with politics. I want to see faith SPEAK OUT LOUDLY and get citizens to speak out for themselves. I think the church and state do not mix but caring for the poor and the sick and all the other things that all faiths try to teach people is what religious leaders should do.

If they get too political, then they should pay taxes.

[Cha]

29. I'm not anything and I think this

is a good thing for Reid to do..I'm tired of the fristians hijacking the moral highground when they're operating from the Gutter.

This seems to be a trend I've been reading about(on DU)..The Left is taking back their religion.

[Patchuli]

38. Yes you are too something...

you are a person of morals and dignity.

[Tanketra]

40. All I know is ...

Every time in the last 10 years somebody has referred to a "really smart move for Democrats", I end up less happy than when they started.

Why can't acting like the Republicans are wrong be smart, for once?

[alittlelark]

5. Very smart. The Corpora-Fascists figured this out long ago.

Unfortunately controlling dems is like herding cats.... uh yeah - try it some time......

But creating COMMUNITY - that is what the Corporo-Fascists have done (albeit shallow) - and what we need to learn from.

"Churches' create a type of 'community'..... Groups that gather with a shared sense of outrage and determination (the REAL TYPE) will supersede them..

[rosesaylavee]

7. But notice that the focus is about

'churches' - not synagogues, not mosques not 'pagan' groves, not hindu temples, etc. Slippery slope here deciding whose belief system to pander to.

[Patchuli]

9. Well, then maybe people of

all faiths should get busy and create community in their synogogues, mosques, temples, etc. etc. ?? Just because a Christian starts one...

[rosesaylavee]

18. Whose saying that they don't have that?

They do. There is a religious bias in this country towards Christianity being the accepted faith of all. It simply is one of many. It would be helpful if Reid would acknowledge that - open the tent to include all and that would create the community feeling. And as an elected official, as a national political leader, he should include all faiths in his outreach program. It would have a very powerful effect - no doubt about it.

The rightwing is certainly not going to. Lots of disenfranchised people out there whenever Christianity is the assumed faith of all.

Thank g** for religious freedom.

[Patchuli]

26. Well correct me if I'm wrong

but I kind of thought Reid was doing that by meeting with leaders in other faiths.

And I think we all need to give a damn about each other no matter what faith group we may or may not belong to.

[rexcat]

41. I see a major problem with both parties on this issue...

xtians are always represented, jews to a point, muslims minimally and atheists never! We atheists are always left on the outside because a majority of Americans are intolerant to the non-religious. I have been on the end of intolerance for many years and it sucks. Of course without religion we atheists can't be moral beings. That seems the to be the undercurrent anytime faith is brought up.

[Patchuli]

42. I believe you are moral

if you are known more for your kindness than you are for having
'religion' or not.

[rexcat]

44. There are a lot of people in this country...

both Democrate and repukes who would disagree with you on this point. That is the reality of the situation.

I mean no bad on you but there is a lot of intolerance to people without faith in this country.

[Patchuli]

59. That's OK, they may disagree

I just think that any way that we can get progressives together is a good one. We progressive/Democrats/etc. are being attacked by a fundamentalist Christian rightwingnut group that is full of hate and bigotry. I think it's an excellent idea to counter the fundie nuts with progressive Democrats and independents who are also people of faith. We need to counter these freaks so they can't pull the card of they are right and we are wrong because we are all just godless hedonists while they are people of faith. I'm sure there are rightwing atheists as well. Progressive atheists are needed to counter those rightwingers.

Last but not least to me, these idiots are giving Christianity a bad name and representing themselves to be the 'norm.' Extremist fundies are not 'normal' Christians by a long shot!

All in all, we need to work on eliminating all the intolerance towards everyone, atheist, pagan, Christian, Buddhist, Muslim(especially!) and all other belief systems. Unless we all pull together to fight these dangerous extremists, they will win and America loses.

[rexcat]

69. I agree with your statements,

People should be judged by their character and actions rather than what label they use to describe themselves. It is easier to be intolerant than to have to think but a lot of people are intellectually lazy.

[Patchuli]

73. Why are people too lazy to think?

Is it in the water? Is it television, Ipods, the 'pop culture?' Why isn't it hip to be smart?!

[rexcat]

74. It is the republican mantra...

they are consistently anti-intellectual. It is in their nature and for the most part it is easier to follow than to lead or think for yourself.

[Patchuli]

75. I'm sorry to say that my own dear older sis

was that until approximately, 2 years ago. She was a repub because our dad was but she has had many revelations over the past couple of years. Now she is appalled. We live in CA and Schwarzenneger has horrified her and caused her to look closer at Bush. Now she is about 3/4s awake! I'm working on full consciousness with her...

[Cocoa]

11. I don't notice that

I notice an emphasis on "many faiths."

[VegasWolf]

22. Aren't all of those places you mention places of worship? A rose

is a rose.

[AlGore-08.com]

39. If you're a Jew or Muslim, the use of "church" by a politician in public

Is always very striking, and it means "Christianity", not "religion". (At the very least it means either "I have no idea who actually lives and votes in my district" and/or "I have no idea how to be polite".) Perhaps it would be different if the number of Jews and Muslims were the same as the number of Christians, or if there had never been any prejudice against Jews and Muslims.

It's like the older use of "men" to mean "people" - - as a woman, it's almost impossible hear "all men are are equal" and NOT hear it as an insult. Or the older use of "white" to mean "morally pure" - - if you're not Caucasian, it's very hard to hear that and not be insulted.

[rosesaylavee]

49. Exactly

That is just it, isn't it? It would take so little to include all faiths but it is not done very often.

I think it is an important message for the Democrats to get out there that we are people of faith and high moral standing - but it seems incomplete and perhaps a shadow of what the Republicans do if the party is limited to Christians and now that I read it, Jews.

We are blessed with freedom of religion in this country. Would like to see some celebration of that.

[VegasWolf]

62. No offense, but that seems a tad over-sensitive. My guess is that

they are simply employing common terminology when speaking rather
than an intentional slight to Muslims or Jews. But I don't know,
I'm not really that sensitized to religious issues. :)

[Kool Kitty]

30. I noticed that, too.

I thought I was just being hyper-sensitive. I am a Wiccan, does Mr. Reid's site apply to me, too, or just Christians?

[VegasWolf]

63. Since he is a LDS I'd be really surprised if he endorsed anything not

based on Jesus.

[rosesaylavee]

6. Guess he has to do this

to send a message to the freepers who may vote Democrat next time 'round but I don't think politics mixes well with religion. I am firm believer in 'by my works you will know me' and the less proselytizing the better.

[alittlelark]

28. hmmmm.....

[msongs]

32. notice how he did not say RELIGION - >>>> smooth move n/t

[AlGore-08.com]

35. The Constitution requires a separation of Church and State

Ried's website is part of his Senate website, paid for by our tax dollars. I took a look at the content, and right now he's got one article about the Holocaust remembrance day, but the rest are about Christian events and Christian groups responding to non-religious political events.

The site doesn't appear to be a violation of Church and State. But Even without this thread at DU, I could see how this website would make some folks uncomfortable, because it has so much more Christian material on it than non-Christian. If I was Reid, I would have NOT hosted this on my Senate website, so there wouldn't be question of propriety - - instead, I would have paid $20 a month to host it on a private website.

However, I doubt I would have had this sort of site if I was in the Senate. I find these public proclamations by Dems in office that "Democrats are really people of faith" to be more a little offensive; it always sounds a political stance, not a sincere statement. It's like when the Republican wives confide privately to a TV audience of millions that, golly gee wiz, they personally are pro-choice, so their husbands can't really be against Roe v. Wade, now can they?

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

43. I do tend to see faith and/or religion as a private matter, but

in this day and age, I don't think there is anything wrong with pointing out that many or most Democrats are people of faith.

And I would compare the beliefs that I adhere to any day with what is espoused by the RRR.

[currents]

48. Repulicans don't have Religion, they have WHITE CRISTIANS!

It's all about racism with these supporters, the only way to get them think democratic is to make racism unfashionable!

[truthisfreedom]

51. the lockstep march will not bother us, soon.

who cares about thugs anyway?

[Justice]

54. terrific

I think Reid is right on the money

[sadiesworld]

56. The problem is the politicians have precious little left to discuss.

The multi-nationals working through the WTO are the ones who determine our environmental, labor, and consumer protection laws. I think a reasonable argument can also be made that they control our foreign and monetary policies.

The dems gave up their strongest issues and are now left to duke it out with the repubs over religion and a handful of cultural/social issues.

Carry on. (BTW, there are a couple of CAFTA threads on NEXT WEEK'S congressional vote if you care to make a call or write a letter)

[depakid]

57. Talk away Harry

and then vote for things like the bankruptcy bill.

My Lord, this man's hypocrisy is just sickening.

[David Zephyr]

66. I'm not just wild about Harry. Read this on Reid.

http://www.caclean.org/problem/latimes_2004-02-24.php

[cosmicdot]

64. who exactly will be drawn to this webpage?

I hope he will launch a webpage as an outreach to American workers and all citizens negatively affected by the misgovernance of corporate america. Isn't that a bastion of Republicanism, too?

[PartyPooper]

72. I thought the old "faithful" was in a national park somewhere in the us.

And, last night some lady on with Leno said disneyland was a "national park". Could she be correct?

:think:

:crazy:

[NVMojo]

76. Reid establishes faith site

WASHINGTON -- Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has launched a "faith Web site:" http://democrats.senate.gov/faith.html.

Reid said the Web site was designed to clearly illustrate how Democrats and people of faith can work together to serve the needy.

Republican leaders shrugged off Reid's effort as a doomed attempt to paint Democrats as the party of the faithful.

"Folks will support the candidates and the parties that reflect their beliefs," Republican National Committee spokesman Danny Diaz said. "There is one party is that is creating jobs, that is achieving accountability in the classroom, that is making sure that Americans enjoy retirement security in the future. And that's that Republican Party."

more...

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/lv-gov/2005/jul/20/519079027.html

[jim3775]

77. I'm very impressed with Reid

Promoting the religious left could be one of the best strategies to build confidence in voters in contested elections, especially in southern red states.

[Art_from_Ark]

78. Trust Republicans with "retirement security"?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

You missed your calling, Mr. Diaz-- you should have been a comedian!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[politicaholic]

92. Creating jobs? Did they recategorized stripping as a manufacturing job?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Mr. Diaz must be wearing horse blinders. Actually he's probably taking horse tranquilizers. Only someone strung out on a prescription drugs can come up with those stats...hello? Rush? Is that you?

[Kerrytravelers]

79. Creating accountability in the classroom?

Bwaaahhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

80. oy vey

[VegasWolf]

81. Nah! The redneck South is still too pissed off that blacks can vote.

The South was predominately Democrat up until the Civil Rights
movement, then they switched 'en masse'. I still can't get over
all of the black jokes I hear every time I go home.

[dweller]

82. good for him.

now, let's get back to business.

The repuglican party does not reflect my belief in anything. I believe they are destined to a minority role in gov't. and will continue to act towards seeing them reduced to that status.

dp

[AlamoDemoc]

83. I would give him "D" for the effort

the idea lacks creativety and imagination

[Hamsta1]

85. Did you visit the site?

I saw some very positive ideas there, and am still scratching my head over that Danny Diaz quote. How fucking petty can they get? Original or not, it's a good thing he's doing and it really shows how childish the right has gotten. I think when you get religions together with social services then you get a large pool of volunteers to draw from and a way to direct them to where there is a larger need for them. Not that churches are the only ones that volunteer, but they have that whole 'moral obligation' thing motivating them. I remember as a kid my church fixed up a crackhouse and turned it into a nice place to live for a family of Rwandan refugees. They had to have some coordination with social services to know where the most dire need was. Point is this, I see no reason to question Reid's motives here, but the republicans can't so much as say "Good move Harry", their knee-jerk response is "WE and only WE are the party with faith. MY god. not yours.". Coming from a family of Christian Democrats, this shit really gets old. Especially with these transparent troglodytes in power.

[Sal316]

84. Ugh.. moral highgrounders.

"My faith can beat up your faith!"

Perhaps these conservative christians ought to realize that Pride is one of the seven deadly sins, and by saying things like "doomed attempt to paint Democrats as the party of the faithful" only reserve them their own private circle in hell.

[stevietheman]

86. What jobs? Where are they? Please tell us.

I've seen many analyses that far more jobs are created under Democratic Presidents than Republican Presidents. And we know that we have the worst jobs creation under Bush than under any other modern President. Therefore, this is just more spin from the GOP. {Yawn}

[wryter2000]

87. This just in...

"There is one party is that is creating jobs, that is achieving accountability in the classroom, that is making sure that Americans enjoy retirement security in the future. And that's that Republican Party."

Up is down. Night is day. Truth is lies. War is Peace.

[UrbScotty]

89. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. (nt)

[Cugel the Clever]

88. Good Idea, Hideous web site

I think Reid is on the right track with this. If only "Christianity" were truly based on the teachings of Jesus Christ (which, of course, it isn't). It is clear that Jesus and the Dems should be great buddies, particularly the most progressive and liberal segments of the party.

The things that got JC truly cranked were greed and intolerance, with the Pharisees (Judean Republicans) a particular target. Love your neighbor, help the poor, etc. He was killed for being a very successful protestor!

There is a lot of common ground for Dems and true followers of Christ. Maybe this will ultimately lead to a spiritual reawakening when the Church is reclaimed by those who seek to follow God rather than political leaders.

As for Reid's website, these guys need help. Ill-focused, overexposed images accompanied by boring list of names (donors and donees, presumably). I detected very little "meat" and quite a lot of the filler one associates with a .gov

[wryter2000]

90. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[melissinha]

91. WELL ...

"WE only, we are the party of civil rights" Remember when those SOBs tried to co-op civil rights activism?

but like you all have said... why are they so "entitled to co-op"..

We have to really embrace the fact that we are the minority party, with virtually no power we don't hold the blame for msot everything that has gone on... they are in power as a result of this tactic, as we should....

HOWEVER we need to tell the american public that politics isn't black and white.... The Republicans seem to think that everything we are for, they have to be against and vice versa.. which puts them into a position of turning a blind eye to facts and truths for which they have to spin and create cover stories. We cannot fall into this trap. I often find myself thinking... well if they're for it.. i am against it.... NO no nO! This simplistic view is responsible for the reversal of environmental laws ... now my question is.... does that apply to our pro verified voting campaigns?

Hey and you all have suggestions... try to be constructive towards Reid... they may tale your suggestions.. we've gotta back him up.

[Cobalt Violet]

93. "There is one party is that is creating jobs"

Yeah, In China and India.

[Payne]

94. WHHHHHHHAAAAAA

"Folks will support the candidates and the parties that reflect their beliefs," Republican National Committee spokesman Danny Diaz said. "There is one party is that is creating jobs, that is achieving accountability in the classroom, that is making sure that Americans enjoy retirement security in the future. And that's that Republican Party."

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :silly:*spits out coffee*