Cheney Calls War on Terror Unpredictable

[maddezmom]

By SUZANNE GAMBOA, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 43 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney, standing with veterans to mark the 75th anniversary of the government agency created to serve them, said Thursday "we cannot predict the length or the course of the war on terror."

"We have no illusions about the difficulty of engaging enemies that dwell in the shadows, target the innocent, and recognize neither the laws of warfare, nor standards of morality," Cheney said. Nonetheless, Cheney said, the United States will "persevere and prevail."

Joined on stage by veterans from World War I through the Iraq war, Cheney was featured speaker at the ceremony marking the diamond anniversary of the Department of Veterans Affairs.

On July 21, 1930, President Hoover signed an executive order to create the Veterans Administration. Former President Ronald Reagan elevated the agency to Cabinet level and made it the Department of Veterans Affairs.

more:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050721/ap_on_go_pr_wh/veterans_cheney;_

[sabra]

1. seems like we posted this @ the same time :-)

I guess Cheney is alive?

[maddezmom]

14. IT"S ALIVE

was thinking the same :D


cheney out in public spouting more nonsense...

[katty]

20. We cannot predict...but , ah...maybe it will be over if I can just

do a few more shady deals in Iraq before I am tried for war crimes.

[okieinpain]

21. dang, you guys beat me to it.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

2. But...but...but...They promised to keep us safe

:sarcasm:

[Fire Walk With Me]

36. Is that what Bush meant when he said "bring 'em on!"?

Must be.

[Sanity Claws]

3. If unpredicatable, how can you (cheney) claim the

insurgency is in its last throes? Perhaps that's an admission that the insurgency or Iraq is not the same as the war on terror.

[Beaver Tail]

4. WTF?

target the innocent, and recognize neither the laws of warfare
Has heen seen what is going on in Iraq and Gitmo?

[info being]

5. In other words, he wasn't in on THIS bombing attempt

[Patty Diana]

6. Chertoff: says States to Foot Transit Safety Bill

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/14/AR2005071400689.html WASHINGTON -- The government must focus on preventing airline hijackings and other terror threats that could inflict mass casualties, and is limited in the help it can give cities and states to protect trains and buses, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Thursday.

[maddezmom]

15. yesterday:Attack on U.S. food supply 'easy,' senators warn

Attack on U.S. food supply 'easy,' senators warn By Sophie Walker
Wed Jul 20, 5:43 PM ET



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An attack on America's food supply using biological agents or disease is easy to do, would spread fast and have a devastating economic effect, a Senate committee heard on Wednesday, as it reviewed protection for U.S. agriculture.

"In the case of foot-and-mouth disease it takes little scientific training," Sen. Pat Roberts (news, bio, voting record), a Kansas Republican and chairman of the Intelligence Committee, told the Agriculture Committee hearing.

"You put a handkerchief under a diseased animal in Afghanistan, put it in a zip-lock bag, put it in your suitcase, come to the United States and drop it in any one of our feed lots. And we're in a lot of trouble

more:http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050720/ts_nm/food_attack_usa_dc_1

[Ilsa]

7. One thing that is predictable is that when you go to war, you are

probably going to sustain casualties. Of course, Bush* said God told him we wouldn't have any casualties.

Others learning to hate the US was also pretty predictable, DICK.

[Lautremont]

8. I can predict the length of the war on terror:

For-fucking-ever.

[LynnTheDem]

9. DAMN them NOUNS!

Unpredictable, they are.

[PunkPop]

10. What has Hallicheney slithered out of his undisclosed location to

babble about this time? What's that you say DICK? Terror? Enemies? I have a pretty good idea of where the enemy is, and he's not hiding in the shadows. He's standing on a stage lying his ass off to keep Americans at the right level of fear where they can be easily manipulated.

FU DICK!!

[goforit]

60. Yep......they just sit there like morons and do nothing.

[formercia]

11. You would think he was talking about himself.

"We have no illusions about the difficulty of engaging enemies that dwell in the shadows, target the innocent, and recognize neither the laws of warfare, nor standards of morality,"

[judy]

12. Scuse me, Dick, but...

are other wars predictable???
Was VietNam predictable?

How can we listen to this BS and not be offended that these people think we are stupid!

What makes any war more predictable, is when countries have:
1 - Criteria to determine what victory is: WOT doesn't have one (very convenient of course for war profiteers...)
2 - Exit strategy in case victory doesn't seem to be happening.

We have neither.

[Enraged_Ape]

13. 2nd time in 24 hours that they've admitted they're incompetent

Bush told us just yesterday that the War on Terra will not end for the forseeable future. I'm sure the troops in Iraq like hearing that.

Can we please, PLEASE impeach these useless tools and hire someone who can actually do the job?

[K-W]

16. Thats funny, it all seems very predictable to me.

Maybe he should let me do his job.

[shanti]

17. all war, all the time...

:-(

[Demeter]

18. Au Contraire! It's VERY Predictable

and that's why we've been yelling at you clowns.

[Pithy Cherub]

19. So Cheney did a loop-de-loop past "last throes" again?

Need dramamine to keep up with all that circular logic:crazy:

[David Zephyr]

25. "Can't predict" vs. "last throes"

:eyes:

[mbperrin]

22. Funny....is this the SAME Cheney???!!

Other top officials, including Cheney and Rumsfeld, said the war would last "weeks, not months."

Influential outside advisers who urged the administration to target Saddam went even further. Kenneth Adelman, a Reagan administration official who serves on a Pentagon advisory board, said in a Washington Post column in February that the war would be "a cakewalk." Richard Perle, who chaired that board until last week, predicted in July that support for Saddam, even within the Iraqi military, would "collapse after the first whiff of gunpowder."


Weird coincidence, huh?


And why would the VFW even let a !@#$%^&*()_)(*&^%$ like DICK on the stage?

[proud patriot]

23. I believe cheney is threatening dissenters with this statement

Bastard

[WhiteTara]

24. sounds like Heartless was looking in the mirror

We have no illusions about the difficulty of engaging enemies that dwell in the shadows, target the innocent, and recognize neither the laws of warfare, nor standards of morality,"
We know how hard it is to get rid of the you, you terrorist, we've been trying for five years now.
:argh:

[VegasWolf]

26. Cheney is so predictable. nt

[Sparkly]

27. So let's leave ports and chem/nuke facilities unguarded,

as well as munitions in Iraq, and old Soviet weapons lying around, and not inspect cargo in ports or on planes, and let's ship toxic waste across the country to Yucca mountain, because it's so unpredictable! I mean, nobody EVER thought 9/11 could happen! :eyes:

But hey -- we're all taking our shoes off at airports now and Saddam is in jail, so the world is safer!! :sarcasm:

[Skittles]

28. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE THROES, DICK ??

YOU SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE PREDICTING THEN DIDN'T YOU, YOU SLIMY F***

[bribri16]

29. Oh, I thought you wrote "unwinnable." n/t

[bluetrain]

30. I read that as "Cheney Calls for War on the Unpredictable" /nt

[AzDar]

31. ..."Cannot predict the length" ...= ENDLESS profits for Halliburton.

n/t

[WinkyDink]

32. Projection, once again

enemies that dwell in the shadows, target the innocent, and recognize neither the laws of warfare, nor standards of morality

Pretty much describes Bushco.

[Initech]

33. Wow, how long did it take him to think that one up?

Really, were we expecting Cheney to say anythin different?

[lumpy]

34. Afraid the US will end up

having ultimate controlled borders, US citizen restricted travel, more ID, more need for domestic police, domestic monitoring, less rights to privacy. Freedoms that we have taken for granted will be diminished. All thanks to Bush/Cheney/Bushco's foreign adversarial policies. Buscho was wrong in following the path of rash rhetoric and aggressive posturing. They have no concept on how to put out the fire. Cold water works better than adding fuel to the fire.

[ncteechur]

35. Kerry a flip-flopper? cheney and bush flip flop more ...

than mattresses in a whorehouse.

[Pallas180]

37. this from a guy who said he had better things to do than go to Nam.

:puke:

[Moderator]

38. kick

[JABBS]

39. Cheney Calls War on Terror Unpredictable

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/21/AR2005072101143.html

WASHINGTON -- Vice President Dick Cheney, standing with veterans to mark the 75th anniversary of the government agency created to serve them, said Thursday "we cannot predict the length or the course of the war on terror."

(snip)

[tk2kewl]

40. you just never know when another $9 billion will go missing

:shrug:

[Jim Sagle]

47. nor when the regime will declare martial law and put Democrats in Gitmo.

[wli]

52. they've not got enough mini-Gitmos like Pier 57 around to do it

But rest assured, the capacity is expanding daily.

[wtmusic]

41. "But I'll say it's in its 'last throes' anyway"

:crazy:

[dajoki]

42. i thought the insurgency was in it's last throes

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[shraby]

44. Question is, how long does a throe last?

[tk2kewl]

45. a throe can be very unpredictable...

even violent. just check the dictionary. and a single throe could last 12 years apparently.

[dajoki]

46. yeah, and how many "throes" are there?

[karlrschneider]

48. I think it's 3 throes per Viagra...

:eyes:

[dajoki]

62. do you think...

cheney's heart can take three throes?:shrug:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

56. did you see the daily show's handling of that term?

[dajoki]

61. no, fill me in

[Kool Kitty]

43. Really??

Thank you, Vice President Obvious. Jesus Christ, another genius.

[Spider Jerusalem]

49. Well, of course not, Dick, you bloody idiot...

fighting a "war" against an enemy who could be anywhere and strike at any time is kind of like that (just ask the Israelis how they've been doing). And you can't fight a tactic (which is what terrorism is). Can't fight a civilian population any of whom, for all you know, may be potential terrorists. They're not an army; they have no centralised command and control to knock out; they have no fixed base of operations...you can't call it a "war" at all, and you can NEVER win.

[O.M.B.inOhio]

50. but somehow the 'alarmist' liberals were aren't surprised...

while repukes called the lefties 'chicken little' and 'negative' and 'traitor' Greens, intellectuals, many Dems (tho few who hold office) et al were right all along.
right that...
Bush was lying
Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld, and other Bushholes were lying
we would NOT be greeted as liberators
it'd be a quagmire
many many people would die (and that pro-lifers wouldn't cry about Iraqi fetuses)
ousting Saddam would help nobody
stability could not be achieved w/ an occupying army
no WMD
intel sources not reliable
America, UK, etc would be less safe
there would be blowback

and sooo much more. Were we right then? Hell, yes. And we're right now that if you shut up your PR machine and think, if you respect your enemies' capacity for intelligence, if you consider their rational objectives and their irrational passions, if you abandon the assumption that our enemies are just more brown barbarians who hate our freedom... then the war on terror will be a hell of a lot more predictable.

[Hissyspit]

51. "...because we want it to go on forever." n/t

[moodforaday]

55. Conditioning

They're conditioning people to accept insanity as normalcy. Every day a new soundbite, every day a new lie, a new vaguely threatening statement. Does anyone remember anymore what life was like before the fear of terror?

[CJCRANE]

53. It's a War OF Terror

on both sides (i.e. for the ones who are playing the game, the rest of us are just caught up in the middle).

[liberaliraqvet26]

54. it's as unpredictable as his pacemaker

evil bastard.

[Moderator]

57. Jabbs

The date of this article is July 21st. Don't forget that LBN rules require that the article be no more than 12 hours old.

[nookiemonster]

58. He's evil incarnate.

No doubt.

[goforit]

59. Why didn't they arrest this guy on the spot???

He is treasonous and a danger to humanity.

[bassman79]

63. Acutally, since it's all COMPLETELY STAGED...

It is extremely predictable.

[WhiteTara]

64. I have never seen anyone who could lie so easily

and with such conviction. One lie just covers the other and he goes right on without a thought that anyone will remember. Ole Heartless is ripe for the Hague.

[Seabiscuit]

65. Since when have these neocons respected "the laws of warfare" or

"standards of morality"????

They started all this by trashing the U.N., international law, the U.N. Charter, and the the Constitution, which requires the U.S. to honor all international treaties to which it is a signatory, including the U.N. Charter.

Then came Abu-Ghraib, etc., etc., ad nauseum.

"Terra-ists" may be unpredictable, but Cheney isn't.