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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:26 PM
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Bush says not backing down on Social Security
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http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N22621329.htm

Bush says not backing down on Social Security


ATLANTA, July 22 (Reuters) - President George W. Bush refused on Friday to back down from his push to restructure Social Security despite dimming prospects for action by the U.S. Congress this year and the toll it has taken on his popularity.

....

Americans, especially senior citizens, are skittish about Bush's top domestic priority of changing Social Security and pollsters say the issue has contributed to a slide in Bush's approval ratings.

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"Now's the time to act on this. I understand that some in Washington don't want to deal with the issue -- it's too politically sensitive," he said. "One thing that's not going to happen is me dropping the subject."

Lending a hand to Bush -- and a dose of sympathy -- was his 80-year-old mother, Barbara, who credited her son for taking on an issue that is a "political nightmare."

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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:27 PM
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1. cool
I wonder how much lower his apporoval rattings will go?
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:33 PM
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16. Easily has another 10-15% (if not more) to go...
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 02:35 PM by bush still has to go
But they're going to ram reform through anyway (since the world revolves around HIM and not the citizens)
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:38 PM
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19. Gaileo
Well you know it was his base that did kill gaileo for saying the earth revolved around the sun. Weird how I tied that to your post huh :D
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bigluckyfeet Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:50 PM
Response to Reply #16
54. In Other Words
He does not give a damn what the people want,he will shove it down your throat.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:28 PM
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63. that's been my take all along.
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 10:30 PM by susanna
My mom says, "he can't do it if no one wants it."

After watching this yahoo for a few years now, I said to her, "just watch him."

That said, I am heartened to see that the vast majority aren't buying his crap.

on edit: clarity
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:27 PM
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2. Guess what, Fuckstick!
neither are the American people!

well, maybe I shouldn't speak for the sheeple
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:47 PM
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46. I'm sure they have some Fucking
Nefarious plan up their Moldy sleeves to Screw the Seniors out of their SS money.

The way they borrow and spend and burn ..they need more money fast!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:27 PM
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3. The assholes that voted for you are finally waking up to your con
We the people aren't backing down either
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:29 PM
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7. That's right!
Take that SS BS and shove it right up your impeached ass!

Peace.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:30 PM
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8. BRING IT ON you ratbastard! BRING IT ON!
Peace.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:28 PM
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4. Yo Dubya! We aren't giving up either!
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 02:29 PM by TheGoldenRule
:grr:

p.s. Why isn't there a middle finger smilie? Just asking that is... O8)
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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:39 PM
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21. Here TheGoldenRule, wanna borrow this one.....
Dubya, talk to the hand baby!

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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:01 PM
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28. ROFL!
:rofl:
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Rebellious Republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:06 PM
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29. Thought you might like that one! N/T
:toast:
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:28 PM
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5. Excellent!
Good for you, Shrubbie! You give it to 'em, you sexy hunk of manly luv!
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:29 PM
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6. Great! Keep it coming, Meat.
We're right over here where you see the bright flashes.
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Jokerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:30 PM
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9. The day Barbara Bush has to live on Social Security...
Then MAYBE I'll give a damn about her opinion.
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Old_Fart Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #9
66. Has she ever held a job?
Besides running her big mouth :shrug:
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:30 PM
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10. Keep it up George, Your ratings will be at 20% just in time for
the big party we're having for you September 24-26!:party:
http://www.unitedforpeace.org/
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:30 PM
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11. Doing the same things yet expecting different results. . .
the definition of insanity to some.

I say, 'Go for it, George.' Anything to help tank your dwindling popularity I'm all for.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:31 PM
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12. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!
:party:

:bounce:
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #12
41. LOL We gotcha just where we wancha, Bush. Keep it up dumbass. nt
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:31 PM
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13. I am going to get my grubby little hands on that money if it kills me
Mine, mine mine, all mine.
Give me all you've got and then fork over more.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #13
59. "It wants it's PRECIOUS...........yesssssss!"
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StuckinBFE Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:31 PM
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14. I am pretty sure he has run out of political capital
so no SS reform for you dumbass... Or maybe he will run a deficit on political capital and borrow it from China.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:31 PM
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15. Thanks! Watch those poll numbers keep-on-sliding nt
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:36 PM
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17. Did Karl the Traitor tell you to say that, Georgie?
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:37 PM
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18. Some time between now and 2008...
...the little psycho bastard is going to have a spectacular meltdown.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:47 PM
Response to Reply #18
65. I LOVE the way you think.
I'm partial to that idea myself. :-)
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:38 PM
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20. Go ahead, you vacuous dumbass
Pinch me, I'm dreaming. ALL the news seems to be good these days. Rove/Libby/Treason isn't going away. And now, we have the bumbling idiot starting his road show again.

I am disturbed about the apparent squelching of the latest Abu Ghraib photos, but I have high hopes that our newly-energized press will sink their teeth into that one and not let go. It is realated, after all, to the treason story they're following. Causal realtionship and all that.

I'm really hoping Bush will go ahead and unveil his plan to shoot seniors over the age of 80, or send them to Iraq or something. He'd be hard-pressed to damage his reputation worse than he already has, but the guy seems to be able to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory every time.

You go, George. Don't let those liberals tell you what to say or how to act. You have every right to fiddle while Rome burns. Your legacy depends on it.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:39 PM
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22. Why should he?
He gets a pass from the media playing to hand-picked audiences in an attempt to create an appearance of support.
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zeal Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:40 PM
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23. is he that dumb?
no, really? or are they just trying to generate as much "hide the traitor" press as needed
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:46 PM
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25. No one can be that dumb! He's beating a DEAD horse!
:rofl:
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:46 PM
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24. What a dumbshit.
He could have let SS drop, who would have noticed, but he had to dive back into it. What a dumbass.
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:47 PM
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26. Hey! You stole my avatar!!
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 04:07 PM
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34. I created that image for my website...
... so I must protest that YOU stole MY avatar!!!!
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:51 PM
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39. oops...
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #34
40. Mind if I borrow it for awhile?
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #40
49. Sure, go ahead!
Anything for a fellow Dem and Zappa fan!
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:53 PM
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27. This mofo never backs down on anything
That's exactly why he's so terrifying.

I wish the CIA would pull another JFK :hi: but please don't forget Mr. sneer. (the perfect name for the VP)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #27
60. Uh oh, watch out what you say, Agent Mike is watching
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:07 PM
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30. Since Chimpy's still saying he hasn't unveiled his plan yet...
what would he back down FROM?

The GOP Congress has postponed introducing any bill indefinitiely...and the closer the mid-term election gets, the less htey're going to want to talk about it...

"Because the—all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculate, for example, is on the table; whether or not benefits rise based upon wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those—changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be—or closer delivered to what has been promised. Does that make any sense to you? It's kind of muddled. Look, there's a series of things that cause the—like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that we calculate—the benefits will rise based upon inflation, as opposed to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how fast the promised benefits grow, if those—if that growth is affected, it will help on the red."

Bring em on, drunk-boy. By all means, let's have more gibberish like that.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:12 PM
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31. No Barabra, you and DimSon are a "political nightmare", not SS.
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 03:13 PM by CottonBear
:grr: I wonder how screwed up the traffic is Atlanta is right now.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 04:16 PM
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36. Shouldn't the wench be busy baking a cake with a file in it?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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not fooled Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:23 PM
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50. "Old Bag"
"wench" is too nice for that old battleax and incubus incubator :puke: :puke: :puke:

I'm sure the monkey got his hatred of SS (and FDR, of course, who put a stop to grampa Prescott's Nazi profiteering) from his toxic mum and other members of the vile BFEE.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:13 PM
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32. Aw, somebody change his diaper. n/t
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:14 PM
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33. Bush is headed for a psychotic breakdown. Soon he will find out that
he is not wearing any clothes.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 04:09 PM
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35. Bush=Captain Ahab
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:34 PM
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52. Good one,,, riding the white whale of social security into oblivion,,
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 04:55 PM
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37. Keep hitting it you stubborn asshole.
In fact, maybe you should make some more prime time speeches. I hear this fall Monday nights there will be lots of viewer tuned in for football - use that time slot.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #37
64. Yeah, he should try interrupting the second half of Monday Night
Football for his speech. That'll help his ratings. He'll really be able to connect then. :evilgrin:
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:17 PM
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38. I hope the dems don't back down either!
They must not support ANY change the pukes want to make to SS!
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:05 PM
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42. This will be the first "Marshall Law Economic Act" of 2007. Bu*h is
just anesthetising us for the shock of when this plan is mandated under the upcoming fascist "emergency" dictatorship.

Bu*h has to know that pushing this plan will kill destroy his majority Congress. Even most republicans hate this idea.

Unless, of course, he has 100% confidence in republican control of electronic voting, in which case, he can do anything he wants and republicans will increase their majorities in both Houses.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:46 PM
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53. You said
Unless, of course, he has 100% confidence in republican control of electronic voting, in which case, he can do anything he wants and republicans will increase their majorities in both Houses.

You hit the nail on the head. Cheney even said several months ago that after the 2006 midterms they will have a filibuster proof Senate.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:09 PM
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43. Just look under, Dead horse, flogging of....
In the GOP handbook.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:10 PM
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44. This reminds me - did anyone here get a robo call from...
that old POS Bush hack, Tommy Lasorda? Any positive feelings I had toward that asshole were wiped out by his call encouraging support for the Bush SS plan. This was a few months back and I haven't heard much from anyone else about it - so maybe only a few got the call. If you haven't heard about it you can add Lasorda to your list of celebrity Repuke hacks to despise.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:40 PM
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45. Yeah, cause bush Needs to Steal that money..
they're Broke.

Fuck you bush, rove, cheney, rice, rummy, ad infinitum ..you ain't gettin' your slimey hands on our SS money.:freak:
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Patty Diana Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 08:00 PM
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47. Alternative Secret name for his plan is the all new and improved
Genocide plan_like Hitler talked the German people into it was patriotic to kill their old and disabled. He kills SS and the entire US economy will Collapse under the weight. Look at all the empty apts, old folks dying in the streets that someone will have to pay to dispose of. If any of them have kids who maybe can give a few bucks, but not in this economy. So the States will have to rebuild the poor houses and poor farms just to keep those undesirables out of sight. The state will wind up feeding them, housing them, burying them. Shit this is some serious crap here.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:05 PM
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48. well, that's the end of that then. no more bush SS reform
He always does the opposite of what he says...
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:26 PM
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51. That asshole has found out WHY it is called the "third rail"
It's like the kid who sticks his finger in the electrical socket and gets shocked. Bush just got a big jolt from the third rail..hopefully he will learn to KEEP AWAY, like even the most primitive of animals would be able to learn!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:51 PM
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55. He brought his Mommy along to help him change his diaper
How sweet.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:01 PM
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56. I hope it didn't offend
Babs' beautiful mind.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:03 PM
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57. too bad DEMOCRATS do not have his determination on anything...
that I know of except maybe john conyers on the dsm and all.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:04 PM
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58. "I am going to destroy Social Security and ...................
YOU CAN'T STOP ME. I have a mandate. I am going to use the political capital you gave me. Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah."
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:21 PM
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61. So we can assume next week he will announce he is not interested
in this issue any longer? How many times has he done this BS? Why isn't this asshole in jail...WITH his Mommy.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:28 PM
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62. Resolute stupid people...
...are very resolute and very stupid. If this gitling murderer ever meets Dwight Eisenhower in the afterlife Ike will hand him his ass on a platter.
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