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NewJerseyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 10:10 PM
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Carson to tell plans on Senate
http://www.tulsaworld.com/BreakingNewsStory.asp?ID=031013_Br_carson13

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- U.S. Rep. Brad Carson, D-Okla., scheduled news conferences in Tulsa and Oklahoma City Tuesday to discuss his plans to run for the U.S. Senate.

An advisory announcing the news conferences was distributed Monday under Carson's congressional campaign letterhead, with the addition of the tag: "United States Senate."

It included a campaign Web site, which was under construction.

"You can connect the dots," said Brad Luna, spokesman for the 2nd Congressional District representative.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 10:12 PM
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1. hell yeah baby, ok doing it's part for the country. when the hell are the
Edited on Mon Oct-13-03 10:21 PM by okieinpain
rest of you yankees, and bubba's going to help out.
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 10:13 PM
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2. haha
:P
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 10:25 PM
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3. Why isn't Istook running?
I thought he was the sure-fire favorite. What's up with that?
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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 10:45 PM
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4. Istook heard the rumble of 2002
Remember the disasterous 2002 elections? Oklahoma elected a Dem Gov in 2002.

Elected a Dem for Gov over a Repug Congressman who was a football star, no less.

In freaking Oklahoma!
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 10:49 PM
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5. Yeah
but that was due to a third party candidate that took away crucial votes from Largent in Oklahoma City and Tulsa.
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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 10:54 PM
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6. Good point
Edited on Mon Oct-13-03 10:57 PM by jburton
Do you know what the numbers breakdown was for the candidates?

I have no idea what they were, just the fact that Largent lost to a Dem.


edited for clarity
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 11:06 PM
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8. Largent fared well in the Panhandle and in OKC/Tulsa
But Richardson "Naderzied" him. Here is how the state voted. Red is Democrats. Blue is Republicans.



Henry eked out a 7,000 win over Largent. For Carson to win he is going to have thrash the GOP candidate in rural, Eastern Oklahoma and run evenly in the SW part of the state. He is going to have to minimize his losses in the Tulsa/Oklahoma City area and the Panhandle.
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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 11:10 PM
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10. 7,000 win
I didn't know it was this close!

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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 11:17 PM
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11. Yeah it was
nt
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 01:21 PM
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23. That, AND the "third party" candidate took over 100,000
That's a pretty big margin in OK.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 01:11 PM
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21. Carson should do well in Tulsa...we hate OKC
well not hate, but Tulsans would be hard-pressed to vote for the mayor of OKC.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 04:19 PM
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24. But Tulsa is heavily Republican and always has been
nt
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 04:36 PM
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25. I've lived in Tulsa for 28 years
and it does vote Republican, however we had a Democratic mayor for 8 years and have had in the past Democratic congressmen. Also, Tulsa considers itself more sophisticated than other parts of Oklahoma. Just give us a good candidate, and wait and see.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 04:59 PM
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26. Ok
But I read somewhere that Tulsa has been voting Republican since the 1920s.
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Dubyawatchers Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 11:05 PM
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7. Istook
http://www.newsok.com/cgi-bin/show_article?ID=1096057&TP=getarticle
(registration required)

Oklahoma City Mayor Kirk Humphreys all but announced his candidacy for the U.S. Senate on Monday as he picked up an endorsement and pledge of help from Sen. Jim Inhofe.
--snip--

Rep. Ernest Istook, considered a leading Republican contender for the seat, announced Sunday he had decided not to run. Istook said he could not risk giving up his standing in the House, where he has served since his election in 1992.
Inhofe acknowledged that he had urged his fellow Republican not to run. He told Istook he should stay in the House because of his position and power as chairman of the Transportation and Treasury Appropriations Subcommittee.
"I said, `You really need to stay to where you are for the sake of Oklahoma,'" Inhofe said. "So yes, in that respect, I did encourage him not to run."
--end--

As for carson running, BFD.
He's another DLC democrat and I don't really see him winning.


For jburton -


November 5, 2002

FOR GOVERNOR
STEVE M. LARGENT REP 441,277
BRAD HENRY DEM 448,143
GARY L. RICHARDSON IND 146,200



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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 11:08 PM
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9. Here we go again
Carson can't be the Congressman from Berekely and is attacked.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 11:22 PM
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12. Who that is not DLC would have a chance
in Oklahoma? Name one non-DLC Democrat from Oklahoma with a 1 in 100 chance of winning....Please
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 11:30 PM
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13. Easy
There aren't any.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 11:39 PM
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14. But lets take this opportunity
to bash centrist Democrats again by calling them the evil DEE ELL CEE.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-03 11:41 PM
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15. Yep
nt
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yelladawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 08:24 AM
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16. More about Carson
Three months ago while giving a speech to the Tulsa Chamber of Commerce Carson said, "I am the biggest Democratic supporter of President Bush in Congress today."

I was there and I heard him say that. It was reported in the Tulsa World newspaper as well. Sorry, I don't have that link.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:51 AM
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17. A DLC Dem is better
than a Repuke, right? In KS we elected a (DLC) Dem for Governor last year. She is millions of times better than the Repuke who challenged her, even if she is a conservative Dem.
We haven't had a Dem Senator in KS in my lifetime. I would vote for a conservative Dem in heartbeat if it meant we could get rid of Brownback. Fact of the matter is, I might love to have a liberal Governor but a liberal wouldn't stand a chance here.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 11:09 AM
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19. Yeah
For Oklahoma he is in line with the feelings of his constituents.
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 09:56 AM
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18. I know Brad, he's very conservative for a Dem but one hell of a lot
better than Nickles or that other prick Inhofe. I was in his district
until last year when they gerrymandered me into Sullivan (repuke)'s
Dist #1.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 01:14 PM
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22. Brad is a good guy
and he is a good politician. Hint: he's a lot more liberal than he lets on.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-03 12:54 PM
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20. Please tell me his nickname is "Kit."
...And remember that even a conservative Dem is better than a Repuke. We control the agenda in the House with numbers, not ideological purity.
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