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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:01 AM
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Family Mourn for Brazilian Victim
Relatives and friends of Jean Charles de Menezes, the Brazilian man shot by police in London, have expressed their grief, shock and anger at the killing.

His London-based cousin, Alex Pereira, paid tribute to him but sharply criticised authorities for the error.

His grandmother said there was no reason for considering him a terrorist.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4711779.stm

This also jumped out at me:

...the BBC's Tom Gibb in Brazil said Mr Menezes' experience of Sao Paulo's slum areas meant that he might.....have run in reaction to having a gun pulled on him.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:10 AM
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1. Let me add one more quote from the article
They {the police} said Mr Menezes' apparently bulky clothing added to their suspicions. Some Brazilians find even summer weather in the UK cold and often dress warmly.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:14 AM
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2. Many people would freak out if they had a gun pulled out at them
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AuntieM1957 Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:35 AM
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3. Never even been in a slum
and trust me, I would be in the freaked out group if a gun should be pointed at me.

Don't know if I'd run. But I'm outraged.

I thought of G.B. as the last bastion of sanity because the cops didn't carry guns.

This incident has upset me more than the actual terrorist attacks. It's playing into the hands of the terrorists and becoming what they thought we were.

I'd love to see just one news story that mentions that slant - instead of ones that indicate it will either happen again or that it was his fault for running in an overcoat!

Has anyone seen any signs of sanity in the news related to this incident? Please share them - I need the hope.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:37 AM
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4. I spent the last week of June and the first week of July in England
and except for a two day heat wave, it was quite chilly the entire time I was there.
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bennywhale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 12:16 PM
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5. I argued the same point with another Duer earlier. A report in the
New Internationalist this month cites Brasil as having the second highest handgun deaths in the world.

I think the standard drill when four unidentifiable dudes pull out glocks is to run for your life.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:18 PM
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6. There seems to be some dispute about the jacket now
"They said Mr Menezes' apparently bulky clothing added to their suspicions. Some Brazilians find even summer weather in the UK cold and often dress warmly.

But cousin Patricia Armani said she did not remember him wearing a padded jacket.

"He didn't use to feel cold. In the winter he even walked on the street with T-shirt," she told the BBC Brasil.com"

It ought to be a simple point to clear up, though.

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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:21 PM
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7. Hmmmm, interesting
Not sure what to make of it. Could it be he wasn't even wearing a jacket? It wouldn't be the first piece of misinformation about this case.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:24 PM
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8. Yes, that is the problem
So many other "facts" have been wrong, that we really need to see some proof. The jacket should be in evidence, but it wouldn't be a pretty sight.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:11 AM
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12. The jacket should be intact, since the guy was shot in the head.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:44 AM
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13. So where is it?!?!?! eom
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:38 AM
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9. Murder.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:42 AM
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10. The Brazilian media is piling on it GOOD. And people are pissed.
They spent about half an hour talking about it in yesterday night's news. (Covering protests, interviewing the family etc)
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:02 AM
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11. My sincerest sympathies to the Brazilian people
and I hope you get justice.
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